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crimmy said:
why do you assume he has no friends - I think he's up spending time with Dad and sister and her young family focussing on helping them all get through this
he's been back at work also
I don't know if before BB Caleb was into documenting his whole life on SM and so maybe he doesn't do that when it comes to going out with friends ... maybe right now he isn't socialising that much because of the need to be around family

He may think that people would be more interested in his work, his family & god help us ... yes his dog! than pics of him down at the local with his mates or coworkers

(hey Caleb - if they're in uniform we're interested ;) just a heads up! )

I just don't think you can judge him on whether he has friends or not on his SM feed ...

one thing that HAS surprised me though - where are the supportive tweets from any of the HM's?
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Oh no. That last sentence is now proof that Caleb is a loser with a bad character.
 
crimmy said:
why do you assume he has no friends - I think he's up spending time with Dad and sister and her young family focussing on helping them all get through this
he's been back at work also
I don't know if before BB Caleb was into documenting his whole life on SM and so maybe he doesn't do that when it comes to going out with friends ... maybe right now he isn't socialising that much because of the need to be around family

I just don't think you can judge him on whether he has friends or not on his SM feed ...

one thing that HAS surprised me though - where are the supportive tweets from any of the HM's?
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Matt and Layla seemed quite put off with him for whatever reason, and he has only posted 1 picture with a friend since he has been out, not even a shot with other firemen. He often posts pictures of him and his dog, for that reason I think he doesn't spend all of his time with his dad and sister. He does spend time with his sister and her kids occasionally (per pictures).
 
crimmy said:
I'm all talk - I HATE confrontation ... so I do the worst thing possible and internalise until I get so fed up that even the silliest little thing will cause me to explode! I don't think I could lift coworker off ground even 1cm let alone swing her around overhead before releasing but in my head anything is possible and I see her flying through the air and landing face first into a tree!! OR better yet through the centre of those AFL goal posts and little men in white coats do the

i know ... I'm an evil nasty person who just should NOT be allowed out of the house! lol
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Your first two lines describe me to a tee! Once I've been pushed to the edge though, I can easily snap. I'm a shorty and small in general, I have no hope! Lol. I like the way your mind works, crimmy. It's inspiration to make work days better ;)
 
prufrock said:
But we have no idea whether he has friends or not. Keeping in mind his age, there's every chance that most of his mates are married with young families. It doesn't mean they can't still be friends, but it probably cuts down opportunities to socialise. Remember also that becoming a fireman rarely happens to young twenty somethings. The waiting lists are huge, so it's often a job where the men and women are very likely to be in domestic situations that are very settled.
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but just to argue with me you are implying that he does
 
prufrock said:
But we have no idea whether he has friends or not. Keeping in mind his age, there's every chance that most of his mates are married with young families. It doesn't mean they can't still be friends, but it probably cuts down opportunities to socialise. Remember also that becoming a fireman rarely happens to young twenty somethings. The waiting lists are huge, so it's often a job where the men and women are very likely to be in domestic situations that are very settled.
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I always forget that not everyone uses SM to socialise. I don't have twitter, I have a fb and it's full of pics of my kids. Nothing else. It's like I have had an epiphany right now, but I think I stopped looking at the hm's as ordinary people.
 
prufrock said:
But we have no idea whether he has friends or not. Keeping in mind his age, there's every chance that most of his mates are married with young families. It doesn't mean they can't still be friends, but it probably cuts down opportunities to socialise. Remember also that becoming a fireman rarely happens to young twenty somethings. The waiting lists are huge, so it's often a job where the men and women are very likely to be in domestic situations that are very settled.
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the best you can come up with is weak generalizations, his age, maybe friends are married, fireman, probably cuts down opportunities to socialize(sic)
I gave examples of people that appeared to be friends with him, quickly not liking him, not talking to him any more.
 
crimmy said:
why do you assume he has no friends - I think he's up spending time with Dad and sister and her young family focussing on helping them all get through this
he's been back at work also
I don't know if before BB Caleb was into documenting his whole life on SM and so maybe he doesn't do that when it comes to going out with friends ... maybe right now he isn't socialising that much because of the need to be around family

He may think that people would be more interested in his work, his family & god help us ... yes his dog! than pics of him down at the local with his mates or coworkers

(hey Caleb - if they're in uniform we're interested ;) just a heads up! )

I just don't think you can judge him on whether he has friends or not on his SM feed ...

one thing that HAS surprised me though - where are the supportive tweets from any of the HM's?
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Bahahahahaha this is why I love you crimmy
 
TullyLovesDrew said:
ask Matt to confirm that and maybe Layla too
ask Maddie for a reference for him too
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I didn't read all the goss about what you are hinting at but I did see some pretty nasty tweets flying around from Layla and her family members which didn't exactly make me think they were nice people ... foul language, name calling ... after that I didn't bother even looking or reading about it because I pretty much thought he was better off away from all of them anyway

As for overstaying his time on Matt's couch ... some people can be dense when it comes to that stuff and NOT read the signals ... I could see Caleb not really getting that he was intruding on Matt and his g/f's time together ... that maybe he'd been out of the house longer and didn't get that they wanted time to themselves or maybe Matt wanted to get going with his new business ...

I always felt that Caleb of any of the hm's truly didn't see his eviction coming ... and that maybe he was left floundering outside of the house watching his new best friends still in there ... I could see that maybe he expected it to be more than what it was ... and for life afterwards to be different to what it was

For future housemates I think they need to go in with NO expectations about what they'll come out to ... social media has changed things so much ... the novelty of BB HM's ... the 'gloss' of it all ... maybe its worn down from the hype that was around in the early BB years ...

I think this season has maybe fired things back up again but I guess we'll see with 2014 how it goes

I just don't think Caleb deserves the derisive comments he gets ...
 
Sweet_Geek said:
I always forget that not everyone uses SM to socialise. I don't have twitter, I have a fb and it's full of pics of my kids. Nothing else. It's like I have had an epiphany right now, but I think I stopped looking at the hm's as ordinary people.
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I think the saddest thing about Caleb is that he yearns for a life less ordinary and it seems unlikely to happen. I could well be wrong, but I suspect someone like Drew wouldn't/won't have a problem with sinking back into oblivion. People like Caleb and Tully...not so much.
 
crimmy said:
I didn't read all the goss about what you are hinting at but I did see some pretty nasty tweets flying around from Layla and her family members which didn't exactly make me think they were nice people ... foul language, name calling ... after that I didn't bother even looking or reading about it because I pretty much thought he was better off away from all of them anyway

As for overstaying his time on Matt's couch ... some people can be dense when it comes to that stuff and NOT read the signals ... I could see Caleb not really getting that he was intruding on Matt and his g/f's time together ... that maybe he'd been out of the house longer and didn't get that they wanted time to themselves or maybe Matt wanted to get going with his new business ...

I always felt that Caleb of any of the hm's truly didn't see his eviction coming ... and that maybe he was left floundering outside of the house watching his new best friends still in there ... I could see that maybe he expected it to be more than what it was ... and for life afterwards to be different to what it was

For future housemates I think they need to go in with NO expectations about what they'll come out to ... social media has changed things so much ... the novelty of BB HM's ... the 'gloss' of it all ... maybe its worn down from the hype that was around in the early BB years ...

I think this season has maybe fired things back up again but I guess we'll see with 2014 how it goes

I just don't think Caleb deserves the derisive comments he gets ...
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I don't either. I still remember him crying when Matt was picked to go back into the Halfway House. Part of me thought he'd attached to Matt a little too quickly, but his concern for Matt seemed real to me. I also keep in mind the fact that Drew likes Caleb and has had only good things to say about him and the kindness he showed Drew, when Matt and Ed were happy to ignore him. He's always seemed sweet and dopey to me.
 
TullyLovesDrew said:
the best you can come up with is weak generalizations, his age, maybe friends are married, fireman, probably cuts down opportunities to socialize(sic)
I gave examples of people that appeared to be friends with him, quickly not liking him, not talking to him any more.
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How about the fact that that paragon of virtue, Drew, (the man who cut someone's grass, the 'Lesbian Slayer') really likes Caleb? Or perhaps his 'bad character' should mean that his opinion means nothing?
 
prufrock said:
I don't either. I still remember him crying when Matt was picked to go back into the Halfway House. Part of me thought he'd attached to Matt a little too quickly, but his concern for Matt seemed real to me. I also keep in mind the fact that Drew likes Caleb and has had only good things to say about him and the kindness he showed Drew, when Matt and Ed were happy to ignore him. He's always seemed sweet and dopey to me.
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Drew has been nice to everyone that didn't treat him poorly in the house. (more of a statement of Drew's character) Drew isn't rushing to hang out with Caleb though.
 
TullyLovesDrew said:
He has only posted 1 photo of him with a friend, any friend since he has been out. He hasn't even posted a picture with his fellow firemen. He tried charging people $1,000 for dog sandboxes that would probably take him 2 or 4 at the most hours to make. He reeks of bad character.
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about the picture with fellow firemen ... he may not be allowed to post photos of them in uniform - there may be rules governing that sort of thing ...

sure $1000 seems excessive however you don't know much about the design and specs of what he was offering ... maybe they had waterproofing? lining? depth? materials? labour? just sand? gravel/pebble base and sand? who knows ... maybe he'd seen something similar at around that price and thought ok I can do that ... and maybe he could/maybe he couldn't

someone I know made tables out of recycled apple crates and was offered $500 each for them ... nothing fancy ... nothing other than apple crates, nails and a bit of sanding ... admittedly they looked great ... but $500? but they were constantly being asked about them and people weren't arguing about the price tag.

Maybe he wasn't serious about it - and by giving it a $1000 price tag he was ensuring the twitter/fb groupies wouldn't be calling up and fake ordering ...

just prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt rather than say it adds up to him reeking of bad character ... people could say that about me today for threatening to use my coworker for hammer throw practice ... and I'm a total sweetie

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;)
 
prufrock said:
How about the fact that that paragon of virtue, Drew, (the man who cut someone's grass, the 'Lesbian Slayer') really likes Caleb? Or perhaps his 'bad character' should mean that his opinion means nothing?
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you are the one trying to say Drew likes Caleb, I think he tolerates him at arms length
 
prufrock said:
I think the saddest thing about Caleb is that he yearns for a life less ordinary and it seems unlikely to happen. I could well be wrong, but I suspect someone like Drew wouldn't/won't have a problem with sinking back into oblivion. People like Caleb and Tully...not so much.
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I get that about Caleb and Drew also ... I do think Caleb maybe had unreal expectations of what would happen post BB

At one point weren't people saying he did the radio course as well as Mikkayla - but I never saw any actual proof of that being true

Anyone else know yes/no on that?
 
Sweet_Geek said:
Kind of makes me sad. Like he may not have any real close friends. I always wondered why he stayed with Matt and not anyone closer. And with the thought that his dad going into surgery, did he have anyones shoulder to cry on... It sounds lonely. He comes across as lonely. I think caleb is a good guy but a lonely one too
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He seems very close with his sister - and seems to dote on her children :)
 
As far as Drew and Tully, they had a strong attraction in the house, he let Tully call the shots as to where she wanted to go with Drully. She was the one in the relationship, the one who was treading in the gray area (and maybe past it).

Tim came up with the "Lesbian Slayer" I believe
 
I have noticed that we haven't seen any sign of visits between Caleb and other housemates. When he started posting all the lonely looking sad pictures I wondered about that, but doesn't he live pretty far away from the others? And he obviously is having money issues so he can't be flying to meet up with Drew or whomever for parties or charity things or whatever? And maybe thats why he over stayed his welcome at Matts, that he knew once he went home, His BB experience was well and truly over because no one else is in his area and he can't fly back to visit...

How do we know he overstayed anyway? Did Matt post about it? Seems to me Caleb is doing the best he can, working, doing the plumbing biz, getting the dog, taking care of his family. He has a beach house, thats pretty cool. For all we know he does have friends. But the buzz of going on Big Brother, that is a big deal in his life and its quite a let down to go back to his normal routine. Like has been said, he had higher expectations than this.
 
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