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Post BB - Housemate Antics 2013 - Part 2
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It's my pleasure. It's the silver lining to these tragic events that they can start conversations as I'm very passionate about mental health, what with my experiences with Dad and even myself when I was coming to terms with my sexuality. I was lucky to have a more open family than most to be able to talk about these things so I'm always happy to share my experiences.
Also I'll just put it out there that if anyone ever wants to have a chat my inbox is always open.
I have an amazing family that's for sure! Public holiday tomorrow so I'm seeing her then so I'll be sure to pass that hug on.
Your family sounds wonderful and as a result you have turned out to be a wonderful person
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I think most people don't get this part. Dealing with my depression (each is unique), its not about "I want to die" its more about "I can't take it anymore". Waking up with intense, crippling anxiety and sadness, 24/7 until you get to sleep again, for years on end. And its not like there is something to fix physically. You burst an appendix and its removal solves the problem. Many times there is nothing that can stop it. The treatment is still so limited and ineffective. My biggest hatred is when people refer to it as the "cowards way out". These people who don't know what it is like to deal with that pain constantly for years on end, passing judgement. And if they actually felt depression, they wouldn't be able to handle it. It just makes me sick.
If I had only seen the photo, I might think he is just a misguided idiot trying to do right. But I hate that sort of shit, anyway. "Choose Life". Thanks sensei, how exactly has that helped? I'm supposed to say "Well, Tim posted a picture that said "choose life", so I guess my issues are gone!" But the tweets showed the judgemental element of his thinking.
camerashy1
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nobody's depression is like anybody's else depression, the shades are infinite
i have both parents that have it, one being outwardly the most positive and happy person that you would meet, the other is the most hyperactive. both are on medication, both deal and manage it differently. one considers suicide, the other thinks it's selfish. polar opposites with the same illness
doesn't discriminate, doesn't advertise, doesn't disappear
Ok, I'm sold. How do I watch from startYes he is!
Thanks, you really should give BBUS a go!
camerashy1
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for everyone, because 
I have always been a tough cookie. I had a 'tough' mum and well I'm glad for the relationship we have now because living there was not so great. I was the parent in the house and she was her, and I was never happy. I'm not sure I was depressed though I felt that way I suppose, trapped, isolated, fearful... But not to the extent of saying I was depressed I think. The point is, as humans we all can suffer some sort of moment of doubt, some it's a permanent fixture, some periodic, some depending on circumstances. It's not a weakness, and it should not be seen that way.
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It's clear that Tim's comments show a serious lack of understanding. I wonder if his Christian beliefs are the problem? Most of the major Christian sects believe suicide to be a sin because of "Thou shall not kill" so maybe Tim is being a fundamentalist here?
Either way, what he said was stupid.
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camerashy1
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i'm so sorry @Sweetgeek, heartbeaking, and that would certainly have had you feeling at your lowest. such sad news from you xx
i wouldn't ever think of depression being a weakness at all. today's shock is that someone who seemed to have a happy disposition, a luxury of choice to go and do whatever they wanted wherever, whenever, didn't. it's because to him in his mind and heart there was no choice, no matter where he was, what he had, what he could do, his soul broke. this is the extreme of depression, there is no level after this. i had read about his battles before so although it was extremely sad i was not really as shocked as people who didn't know
I think you are 100% correct in your assessment here.
camerashy1
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Xavier Holland @xavbait · 5hOne of the worst by products to Robin William's death is the fucking hacks trying to make jokes about it.
Xavier Holland @xavbait · 5hMaking fun of someone who was effortlessly funny & entertaining isn't wit, it only shows how desperately talentless you are
camerashy1
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jadealbany
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This is willow the DINGO
Jade should read this
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...3-dingoes-in-qld/story-fni0xqi3-1227022322247
Ok well I'm going to be honest here since if you can't do it with family who can you do it with?
Even though I was watching the Mrs Doubtfire tribute when I first saw Tim's post during an ad break, I didn't clue in that he would be posting that about depression as it seemed (and still does) like a wtf moment. There is no one in even my largest stratosphere of people I know who would equate choose life to someone suffering from depression. I honestly initially thought he was referring to abortion due to his religious beliefs. As in those who commit suicide have the choice to live or die, others don't have that choice, CHOOSE LIFE. That is truly what I thought and I started to type it several times in here in various responses but deleted it. Then when I scurried over here I saw (and he confirmed) that he was referring to depression and even still I was like, how does that make sense? I even said as much in my expletive laden 2nd response in here when he'd started to make excuses. None of it made sense at all. Then when I saw his Twitter comments, before posting them again I thought wtf is he talking about abortion again? Who doesn't choose to live other than suicide bombers and terminally ill people who ask for euthanasia?! The only answer I had was fetuses if I want to give him credit for making sense.
I don't know. But that's truly the first thing I thought he was referring to. Choose life = abortion war cry = Some don't get to choose to live aka aborted fetuses.
Either way, I've washed my hands of him and that goes back to the SM conversation we were having the other day. I paid attention one day too long with him. How many people from last year who voted for him as I did will never even know this went down so they could at least offer an opinion?
The thought he was referring to abortion never crossed my mind, and I could have almost believed it but his "a lot of people died today, some didn't want to" made it pretty obvious he was referring to suicide IMO.
Either way though I would have a similar reaction to him getting on his high horse telling people not to have abortions. He has absolutely no idea what someone who's pregnant might be going through or what position they're in.
Either way though I would have a similar reaction to him getting on his high horse telling people not to have abortions. He has absolutely no idea what someone who's pregnant might be going through or what position they're in.
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I think his opinion on abortion is as equally unwelcome as his opinion on suicide and depression.
The reach of psychological issues is far and deep and the ability to talk about it in a compassionate way, as people here have done, is invaluable. I really appreciate that the people in this thread have been able to talk about their own experiences with mental illness, directly or through family members and loved ones. It's heartening in the face of such blatant lack of understanding in Tim's posts today.
The reach of psychological issues is far and deep and the ability to talk about it in a compassionate way, as people here have done, is invaluable. I really appreciate that the people in this thread have been able to talk about their own experiences with mental illness, directly or through family members and loved ones. It's heartening in the face of such blatant lack of understanding in Tim's posts today.
I have this tenet in life and this is a good example of why I follow it. It's the idea that words are just words and that it's up to the individual to take from it what they will. So you two seeing something different to what other people did is good backing for my belief.
I didn't even know Tim was against abortion, but of course it makes sense because of his Christianity. I don't want to go too hard on him about that because I used to be Christian as well. Like most people I was indoctrinated at a young age so I didn't really know better.
Unfortunately some people, like Tim, never find their way out from the brainwashing. All you can really do is try and be understanding and hope that they can see the light. Because of my studies of various religions I have a few solid arguments I can use to maybe try and knock some sense into those poor lost folk.
I encourage all good thinking people to do the same and try and help free your fellow man from the oppression and tyranny of religion.
PS. If you're religious and my words upset you then that's cool, I understand. Just know that there are others who will find solace in what I said. So who's to say what's right?
This way of thinking is how most wars start.
While I am an atheist who has had an abortion, I would never arrogantly preach to those who do their best to devoutly follow Christianity/Buddhism/Hinduism/Islam/insert religion, to free themselves of what I, as a "good thinking" person, believe to be oppressive. We need to accept and respect the difference and diversity of culture and religion. Tim has every right to have his belief, to share his belief, but to dictate that his belief is the only belief and therefore every other belief is an example of oppression and tyranny, is oppressive in itself.
I find your opinion to be disrespectful to people in here who have a religious faith. And while I share some of your views, I don't find any "solace" or think you were "right" in the way you expressed yourself.
I don't take offence to your post, you are always respectful. I also like your belief that words are just words and that everyone will interpret differently. It's admirable and an awesome quality to have.
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