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camerashy1 said:
i am thinking they will be over 30 as well, and intelligent, maybe good in discussions ;) anybody agree?
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I don't really mind about the ages, but I really want to see discussions and just normal stuff. The scripting and only focussing on storylines really pisses me off. I remember last year Alex M saying that all the HMs were open and forward thinking and had great wide-ranging discussions, including on controversial topics, but we didn't see that. Partly due to them screening storylines, but mainly I think because of the family-friendly focus - they can't show that. That's what I really miss with the series being on 9.
 
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I don't really mind about the ages, but I really want to see discussions and just normal stuff. The scripting and only focussing on storylines really pisses me off. I remember last year Alex M saying that all the HMs were open and forward thinking and had great wide-ranging discussions, including on controversial topics, but we didn't see that. Partly due to them screening storylines, but mainly I think because of the family-friendly focus - they can't show that. That's what I really miss with the series being on 9.
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yeah, it sounded bad how i said it. i hope for less editing in the conversations, it would be nice to hear at least one full one this year, unscripted and unedited, that's why i am hoping for an 8:30pm start
 
camerashy1 said:
here we go, our conversation is relevant, thanks Xavier :biggrin:

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this tweet has been deleted. divine intervention on Twitter, or hallucination? maybe time for me to take a break on the computer in the middle of the night :shifty:
 
Connoisseur said:
I never understood this transcription. Is it the same as in JEWEL but with a hard G? If it isn't can you give an example where this phoneme is found in another word? :bookworm:
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Could also be written as gell. (Hard 'g' and rhymes with yell. ). The 'r' in girl is ignored. It's a very 'open' pronunciation. Short and sharp. And it does not rhyme with twirl. Like it should. If it is pronounced by any normal person.
 
Mooseface said:
Could also be written as gell. (Hard 'g' and rhymes with yell. ). The 'r' in girl is ignored. It's a very 'open' pronunciation. Short and sharp. And it does not rhyme with twirl. Like it should. If it is pronounced by any normal person.
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That's what I thought. It's just that I've never seen the phoneme represented by the letter E in YELL transcribed with an EW before. :confused:
 
Connoisseur said:
I never understood this transcription. Is it the same as in JEWEL but with a hard G? If it isn't can you give an example where this phoneme is found in another word? :bookworm:
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It's not meant to be a transcription, nor a phoneme. Just spelling it out alphabetcially the way it sounds and in a way I've seen it written here so people would understand I was making a reference to Ed. Didn't know I'd need to bring my IPA when making a reference on a forum.

If you want it transcribed phonetically though to help you understand:

Generally speakers of Australian English would pronounce "girls" as "gɜlz" - where the vowel /ɜ/ would be pronounced as an "er" sound.

What Ed and the Bachelor do is replace the vowel sound /ɜ/ with an /e/ and also add what is referred to as a glide or a labio-velar approximant (translation: a "w" sound) after the vowel to round or "glide" the preceding sound so it's pronounced as "gewlz" rather than just "gelz" ("gells").

Sometimes when Ed is feeling really creative he'll add the phoneme /h/ in there as well giving him the pronounciation of "ghewlz" which is quite different to the standard "gɜlz" as most speakers of Australian English speak it.

Hope that clears it up for you. But sure, I'll just transcribe everything phonetically for you from now on if my spelling is causing you too many issues.
 
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Gemini said:
It's not meant to be a transcription, nor a phoneme. Just spelling it out alphabetcially the way it sounds and in a way I've seen it written here so people would understand I was making a reference to Ed. Didn't know I'd need to bring my IPA when making a reference on a forum.

If you want it transcribed phonetically though to help you understand:

Generally speakers of Australian English would pronounce "girls" as "gɜlz" - where the vowel /ɜ/ would be pronounced as an "er" sound.

What Ed and the Bachelor do is replace the vowel sound /ɜ/ with an /e/ and also add what is referred to as a glide or a labio-velar approximant (translation: a "w" sound) after the vowel to round or "glide" the preceding sound so it's pronounced as "gewlz" rather than just "gelz" ("gells").

Sometimes when Ed is feeling really creative he'll add the phoneme /h/ in there as well giving him the pronounciation of "ghewlz" which is quite different to the standard "gɜlz" as most speakers of Australian English speak it.

Hope that clears it up for you. But sure, I'll just transcribe everything phonetically for you from now on if my spelling is causing you too many issues.
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I know you will find this hard to believe but I'm not trying to have a go at you in every post I make. :)

By 'transcribed' I din't mean using some phonetic system, just writing it out with a familiar bunch of vowels found in common words for reference.

Eg. muh-KAY-luh as a guide to pronounce Mikkayla's name. The i (in Mi) and a (in la) are replaced by 'uh' representing the unstressed schwa, and KAY as in RAY.

referred to as a glide or a labio-velar approximant (translation: a "w" sound) after the vowel to round or "glide" the preceding sound so it's pronounced as "gewlz" rather than just "gelz" ("gells").
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And this is what I was getting at. I can't say that I recognise this 'w' glide phenomenon you describe hence why I'm confused by it. Can you give an example where this naturally occurs in a word. :)
 
Connoisseur said:
I know you will find this hard to believe but I'm not trying to have a go at you in every post I make. :)
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Not saying you are. But I find it funny you dragged up something I wrote in jest a few pages ago just to nitpick. And don't try and say "I was genuinely curious" because you weren't. You were nitpicking.

And this is what I was getting at. I can't say that I recognise this 'w' glide phenomenon you describe hence why I'm confused by it. Can you give an example where this naturally occurs in a word. :)
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I can't because I don't think the way Ed uses it is something that naturally occurs in words spoken by native Australian English speakers. Not sure where Ed or Bachelor Blake got it from unless it's like a Victorian accent thing I'm not aware of.
 
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I for one see "gewl" and in my mind pronounce it as "ghoul" or phonetically as 'gool'. Either way it doesn't sound like the 'gell', 'ghel' or 'gehl' I hear when Ed says "girl".

Surely most people when seeing "ew" together will pronounce it like the "oo" sound in "pool" which is the way it sounds like in the words "screw" or "jewel" and the name "Andrew".

For the record I'm not having a go at anyone and have brought this up in a previous post long ago, but nobody made a thing of it. So it's good that Connoisseur's notoriety made something happen haha
 
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SomeName said:
I for one see "gewl" and in my mind pronounce it as "ghoul" or phonetically as 'gool'. Either way it doesn't sound like the 'gell', 'ghel' or 'gehl' I hear when Ed says "girl".

Surely most people when seeing "ew" together will pronounce it like the "oo" sound in "pool" which is the way it sounds like in the words "screw" or "jewel" and the name "Andrew".

For the record I'm not having a go at anyone and have brought this up in a previous post long ago, but nobody made a thing of it. So it's good that Connoisseur's notoriety made something happen haha
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Seeing 'e' and 'w' together in a recognised word would probably bring up the "oo" sound, as you say. But 'gewls', as used on this forum, isn't a recognised word as in a dictionary.

Thinking of the sound of 'el' in the word 'elbow' and using the 'w' as a glider after the vowel 'e', would provide a similar sound to the way Ed pronounces the word 'girl'.
 
smurfette said:
Seeing 'e' and 'w' together in a recognised word would probably bring up the "oo" sound, as you say. But 'gewls', as used on this forum, isn't a recognised word as in a dictionary.

Thinking of the sound of 'el' in the word 'elbow' and using the 'w' as a glider after the vowel 'e', would provide a similar sound to the way Ed pronounces the word 'girl'.
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Exactly! It has been referred to like this forever now, it will be weird seeing it in any other way. we know what we are referring to when saying gewls. TGIF, some people are getting a little restless ;)
 
smurfette said:
Seeing 'e' and 'w' together in a recognised word would probably bring up the "oo" sound, as you say. But 'gewls', as used on this forum, isn't a recognised word as in a dictionary.

Thinking of the sound of 'el' in the word 'elbow' and using the 'w' as a glider after the vowel 'e', would provide a similar sound to the way Ed pronounces the word 'girl'.
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Sweetgeek said:
Exactly! It has been referred to like this forever now, it will be weird seeing it in any other way. we know what we are referring to when saying gewls. TGIF, some people are getting a little restless ;)
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Exactly. I thought "gewls" was the way we'd decided to refer to Ed's pronounciation of it in here so I used that spelling so people would know what I was referring to. Didn't put anymore thought into it than that.

Didn't realise it would set people off and become a big thing though.
 
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