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babyblueeyes
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I think you'll find a lot of the characteristics of aspergers are actually because of her dyslexia
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I think you'll find a lot of the characteristics of aspergers are actually because of her dyslexia
Angel
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Yep. My son is possibly dyslexic also and there have been times when the lines between them are pretty blurred. For this reason they wont diagnose the dyslexia until he is older and they can get a better idea of where he sits with everything.
I have read a lot about misdiagnoses between the 3. So its more about being able to out rule one rather then confirming one. Most kids with Autism also have learning problems so its normal for the two to go hand in hand where as there are a lot of people who are just dyslexic because they have been able to rule out the others over time.
*Nat*
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Ok I see it now. The issue is your basing your thoughts on other peoples opinions of Jade, not on Jade herself. I think she really likes Ed but besides some nifty editing (taken over a 12 hour time frame and crammed into 5 mins) I wouldn't say she is anymore obsessive towards Ed then most young girls with a crush. The eye contact thing I have only seen a few times and to me it seems more spacey/thinking/concentrating, which fits in the with fact she is dyslexic. She is too introverted for Asperger's and if you were placing her in either it would have to be autistic and she just doesn't have enough of the signs of it. I have seen no pattern/habit/compulsive traits in the house. She handles chance and surprises really well. She can tell when someone is upset and is pretty in tune with others emotions. She also understands what will and wont hurt someones feelings and besides one comment (in the hole thing) she has been pretty carefully about saying anything too insensitive besides a very general gossip/bitch with the others.
I mean I get how one thing here and there can bring on the idea but I think we could all find a thing or two that could possible link as to something in such a wide spectrum as Autism.
exactly. Its just the little bits they show and we don't get to see the full real Jade. Why reading up on the spectrum, I've picked things up about myself and think to myself, "I do this". And yes, I know I've missed a lot of things that don't fall into that autism category. It was just my mind running overtime. I think this diagnosis journey is getting to me and just wont leave my head and it seems like I've got a very long road ahead of me until his diagnosis
I do have to say, I love Jade, just wish she didn't fall for Ed, he sucked all the life and fun out of her.
Beebeebee
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I don't want to give too much away about my profession because of the very low level of abuse I hurl at these forums but there is no way that Jade is Aspergic. People on the Autism Spectrum find interpersonal relationships extremely difficult and struggle to interpret social cues.. While we could totally insert a joke here about Jade not being able to read Ed's cues at all, people on the Spectrum go way beyond that. Often intimacy and affection is difficult and they can find making and maintaining eye contact very difficult. I can say unequivocally (professionally speaking) that Jade is NOT on the Spectrum.
Angel
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Its a long road but dont let it get to you. <3 Some people find the wait and diagnosis daunting but its really a wonderful step forward. They are the way they are regardless, but knowing gives you better tools to help them move forward. My son was diagnosed young, I knew from 10 months that he was different but spent years battling the doctors and hearing comments like its normal, he is a boy, he is the youngest... Even my hubby refused to talk about it because he didn't want it to be true. Because I accepted this so early on with him it allowed me to get to know him better and to parent him in the best way for him, which is a whole new ball park when you have already raised two children. As a result I know his limits, I can tell before his reaction what his reaction will be so while everyone else is doing things and going ooh my, what happened?? I am able to connect with him on another level. Thanks to this I am his 'person' and no matter how DONT TOUCH ME he is I am always let into his area without pushing him too far.
Again when we started to suspect dyslexia, everyone one was "we dont know for sure", "no reason to worry", "just keep moving forward and we will know over time". I made the choice to change EVERYTHING in regards to how we were teaching him/working with him at home to suit that possibility and he went from 9 months in grade 1 and only learning 2 sight words (A and I) to 10 months in and reading books! Yes it was that fast!!
They have such AMAZING little minds, I learn something new every day, the trick is to better understand it rather then trying or worrying about changing it. With all his struggles I would never change a thing because he is the happiest, easiest, sweetest little man and he works so hard just for the simple things and as a result is so proud of himself, just as we are. <3
So dont stress over the diagnoses. Just look forward and remember that this is the first step in giving him the tools he needs in life. If anything, the diagnoses is a gift. <3
*Nat*
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I didnt think she really is, it was just an observation from me. Its always on my mind so I see it everywhere even when I know it isnt.
One of my daughters good friends has aspergers and I never would have known if her mother didnt tell me. She is 11 and does hold eye contact very well and is just like any other girl that age.
One of my daughters good friends has aspergers and I never would have known if her mother didnt tell me. She is 11 and does hold eye contact very well and is just like any other girl that age.
*Nat*
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We've been getting that for years. "he's just a boy" "its a boy thing" No one would believe us that there was something different with him. It wasn't until late last year when his pre school teacher came up to me and told me what she suspected. I cried right there from relief because someone finally saw what I did.
and thank you. My little man brings us so much joy that I wouldnt swap him for anything.
It was just a passing thought and chose to share it, didn't once say she definitely has it and if she did what's so wrong with that? Its just my thought on how she comes across to ME. I am most probably wrong about it and Im sure I am but I am just giving my opinion on it as this is a PUBLIC forum and it is allowed.
You don't have to be so rude about it. I'm not bashing on Jade, in fact I did say I liked Jade, I'm not against her at all.
I don't see what's so bad about what I wrote if its just MY opinion.
I don't give a shit, call me all the names you want as it wont get to me, I dont care. I love animal, Baboons are cute
You are quite determined to paint yourself as the victim here aren't you?
There is nothing "bad" about you sharing your opinion. I was merely responding to your passing thought and like you, chose to share it. I am not known for sprinkling sugar or honey on my opinion to make it look sweeter, I like to say it how I see it, and as you correctly pointed out, it is a public forum and my opinion has as much right here as yours.
I just re read my responses to you and I didn't call you any names, so I don't know what that uptight spray of indignant outrage is all about, but anyhoo...
My opinion is... it is fucking idiotic for you to sit back on your lounge covered in cookie crumbs and diagnose Jade as aspergers based on 17 minutes of highly edited footage you see of her each day.
Yes for the most part they do. Sometimes I wonder if it would be easier for me if I was one of the 'typical' ones lol. But I have 'pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified' (self-diagnosed as a psychology-qualified adult, diagnosis verified by several colleagues), which basically translates as 'atypical' or 'sub threshold' autism...and in my case, social skills (eye contact aside) are my least affected area, so I rarely mention my condition to anyone unless I know them well, let alone mention the 'a-word'. It frustrates me that people think EVERYONE on the spectrum is socially stunted or unable to read cues etc. My biggest issues are with sensory modulation (voice volume), organisation, anxiety and getting overwhelmed (in a sensory and communication/emotion sense) often - I love and need my alone time. But for the various 'negative' issues I have, the condition has also given me a savant memory, near-perfect pitch, great vocabulary and an insane love of puzzles/games/trivia that has bought so much joy to my life. So I'm happy to take the good with the bad
Angel
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Yes for the most part they do. Sometimes I wonder if it would be easier for me if I was one of the 'typical' ones lol. But I have 'pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified' (self-diagnosed as a psychology-qualified adult, diagnosis verified by several colleagues), which basically translates as 'atypical' or 'sub threshold' autism...and in my case, social skills (eye contact aside) are my least affected area, so I rarely mention my condition to anyone unless I know them well, let alone mention the 'a-word'. It frustrates me that people think EVERYONE on the spectrum is socially stunted or unable to read cues etc. My biggest issues are with sensory modulation (voice volume), organisation, anxiety and getting overwhelmed (in a sensory and communication/emotion sense) often - I love and need my alone time. But for the various 'negative' issues I have, the condition has also given me a savant memory, near-perfect pitch, great vocabulary and an insane love of puzzles/games/trivia that has bought so much joy to my life. So I'm happy to take the good with the bad
Alexander is much the same in this, they came very close to this diagnoses but he had a few too many autistic traits when it came down to the final moments. Socially he has always done really well and most people dont notice unless something 'happens'. He is really good at removing himself when he has had enough and as long as he gets that alone time when needed is very good at being around others.
Thank you for sharing your point of view. I always wonder how he will feel about and look back over his diagnosis and what it will all mean to him. He too had an amazing memory and a huge love for puzzles/games/facts. He is only 7 so we will see what other amazing skills blossom over the years to come. <3 Sometimes I wish I could get inside that little head of his, other days I just feel blessed to understand even as much as I do about something so complex and never the same.
Cheers
not knowing the 'answer' until I was in my late 20's, looking back on my life is a whole series of "ohhhhhhh" lightbulb moments LOL
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Angel
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Cheers
My hubby has done the same. When Alexander was being diagnosed and we did all the questions and answers he was like yep, yep, yep to so many things. We are pretty convinced he is Autistic also, he said knowing suspecting doesn't change anything for him but a lot of things made more sense to him now.
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Did you see how fast she put together toys/jigsaw thing. Tim was like you're really fast. Spectacular spatial. Sounds like she knows about it.
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babyblueeyes
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Exactly!
I was one of those 'slow kids' I had no assistance and had to just live with it. and while I eventually learnt, my handwriting is mostly unreadable by anyone else and I still get my ds and bs confused and often use google to help me spell lol...the struggle to express myself is still there. Im 36 so im not sure I could still be considered a slow kid?
Kids today are lucky and I hate hearing how all these things are bullshit, why do so many kids have learning disabilities now but didnt 20 years ago...maybe because 20 years ago we were just 'slow kids'
Angel
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Miiiiike
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<3
When I see your replies, you make it hard for me to insult Jade.
You are too nice to be a Jade fan.
Angel
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Awww, thanks.
I can help out by reminding you we never had our argument about me voting to evict Tully.
