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In Defence Of Cat & Lawson

Evan44 said:
You guys have short memories, remember Marty and Jess from Season 2 or 3 - he had a girlfriend on the outside, yet he was cheating on her with Jess in the house.
I don't recall much outrage about that at the time from anyone, indeed Marty was being eulogised by probably the exact same people hating Lawson right now.
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Lol I didn't know Marty had a gf. I remember watching them on tv when i was a kid. I didnt rememeber marty getting much hate. Prob was too young to understand. Jess went on a dating show recently I think she said Marty cheated on her.. yeaa
 
Maddy's Code said:
True love? you are truly delusional. How old are you? People who says that you cant "fight" or " control" who you attracted to needs some strong meds. There's certain things that has to happen before " love" comes along. When you meet someone, you can have a strong physical attraction, but thats called LUST, NOT love. Then comes the flirting, the touching etc etc. Just like one night stand, the penis dodnt just unzipped the pants and just SLIPPED. If you meet someone who you find attractive but already taken, you put your ass on reverse and back the fuck off. It's THAT simple. You think they look great together, ok, so if your partner looked BETTER with another person than you, then its a validation for him/her to cheat on you?
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^^ THIS! All of this "They couldn't control it" that we're seeing all over facebook and partly here is a crock of shit. This is real life, not a teen romance. They chose to behave the way they did. There is no other way of looking at it. When it came to the crunch it was will I go for it, get a few jollies and hurt all of these people or will I behave with some integrity and listen to my conscience and they chose to go for it. Lawson showed he knew it was wrong with all of the bawling in the diary room. Whether that was real or put on, deep down he knew he should be contrite, hence the tears. Cat couldn't give a crap either way. Both of them are old enough to know exactly what they were doing. It's not beautiful, it's not uncontrollable, they could have waited 3 or 4 weeks and done things in the right order and everyone would have respected them. Instead they showed what they are made of and it's weak willed and shallow with no integrity. Unfortunately it happens all the time with people but that's no excuse. Knowing others have behaved like dicks, doesn't mean you should. The whole think has had a really grubby undertone from the start.

I believe Cat fully intended to have a relationship in the house regardless, even before she met any of the male housemates. I think she walked through the doors and looked around, targeted Lawson and went straight for him right from the start. She asked advice from a lot of hms whether they thought it was ok to pursue him and totally ignored them when they didn't justify her intent. That's why she got so chummy with Sandra, they were empowering each other. Unfortunately for Sandra, Sam wouldn't play. I think Cat is quite predatory and she chose the right one, the one who responded to some ego stroking and thinks with his dick. I doubt any of the other guys would have done what Lawson did. They are both to blame. Both made the choice and both showed a lack of integrity. She shouldn't have chased him and he shouldn't have let her.

Besides, who would want a dick that would do what he did to his girlfriend. If he did it to her, sooner or later he's going to do it to you too. In the end, they didn't commit murder or anything but it's not really the types of character flaws that are going to do either of them any good in the future by presenting that particular side of themselves to the whole country. But like I said, it was their choice.
 
What i find awkward is when he mentioned his mum. I felt bad for him when he was crying and then he goes kisses kat so passionately. His situation is such a mess
 
Evan44 said:
My conclusion.
Why Sam didn't cross the line with Sandra - Sam is in a good place with his girlfriend.
Why Lawson did cross the line - his relationship with Candice on the outside is not at all stable.
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Hmm.. Raphael made a good point. It's about integrity and will power
 
Evan44 said:
All the moralising on this board does my head in!
Are Lawson and Cat really bad people?
Do we know the full picture of the relationship with Candice, how solid was it to begin with, maybe she cheated on Lawson before he went into the house?
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Yeah but regardless of what happened in the past, he entered the show WITH a girlfriend and has showed no respect of her/her family/the 5 years they spent together by going for Cat AND still insisting he had a gf.

The biggest issue is that he's gone about it the wrong way and acted like a dick toward his (now ex) girlfriend. Even if their relationship was shit and he wanted out he shouldn't have done that on national tv, it's not hard to control your feelings/urges and wait to have that important conversation with your partner.
 
Part of me is pissed off with Lawson, because initially I wanted him to win, and I know that he fucked up any chance he had to win.
But the other part of me thinks that maybe there is something between him and Cat? Maybe the 2 of them need to leave the house ASAP, get out of the limelight, and try and work this thing out without the cameras on them 24/7.
 
Evan44 said:
Oh, I am going to be so hated for this thread, but so what?
Sometimes you can't fight true love - maybe this is what Cat & Lawson have found between them?
Who knows for sure that Candice is really the innocent party, how solid to start with was the relationship with Lawson? How do we know that she wasn't the one who caused the initial split before the reconciliation on the eve of Lawson going into lockdown?
I for one think Cat and Lawson are great together, Clawson is about the only interesting thing in Big Brother 2014 - the producers would agree with me.
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I don't hate you and I see your points. I just don't agree with you for the most part. Sure, perhaps you can't fight true love,...the heart knows what the heart wants..blah blah blah.. but you CAN fight lust IF love is the core of it. I am not sure LOVE is what it is with those two.

I personally don't see their relationship as them being IN love at all, in fact, I think Lawson is far too self-absorbed to even begin to understand what love is as by his actions, he clearly did not love NOR respect Candice, as even in his big sookyla la's to BB, it was all about the disappointment dead mum and/or alive dad. Candice seemed to me an afterthought if that at all. That is not how you treat someone you have been in a relationship with for years who you HAVE loved.

As to the Candice thing and lockdown, well, we cannot know and I am not going to speculate what may or may not have gone down. I just go with what we have seen.
 
Evan44 said:
My conclusion.
Why Sam didn't cross the line with Sandra - Sam is in a good place with his girlfriend.
Why Lawson did cross the line - his relationship with Candice on the outside is not at all stable.
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Or maybe Sam actually just didn't like Sandra in that way, regardless of the fact he had a girlfriend.



As for Lawson, his relationship may or may not have been in a good place. Some people are just cheaters.

We have no idea, but we can't speculate or draw comparisons to Sam and Sandra. I am pretty certain even if Sam was single he wouldn't have done anything.
 
As I said in another thread

One of the 3 things Lawson wanted BB to tell him, was if his girlfriend broke up with him.

So, she most probably broke up and BB told Lawson, and he is now single and free
 
up_all_night said:
Some people are just cheaters.
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Yep! I don't buy this lawsons relationship was already rocky crap. The continuous talks to bb and to cat, like we cant go there, there is someone on the outside bb etc... Oh please! If he weren't in front of a camera, he wouldn't even consider her in all of this, but in front of the camera all the sudden he is fighting his attraction and he still at the same time feels guilty? Yeah nah! in the outside world he would have wham bam thankyou mamm without a second thought.
 
lillakosti said:
The heart wants what the heart wants, but there could have been some respect for his girlfriend, her family etc.
What kind of people disregard another person, and continue doing something they know would be hurting that person. 5 years is a long time, neither Lawson or Cat gave a fuck about that.
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I don't think the heart is the body part at issue here.
 
Maddy's Code said:
True love? you are truly delusional. How old are you? People who says that you cant "fight" or " control" who you attracted to needs some strong meds. There's certain things that has to happen before " love" comes along. When you meet someone, you can have a strong physical attraction, but thats called LUST, NOT love. Then comes the flirting, the touching etc etc. Just like one night stand, the penis dodnt just unzipped the pants and just SLIPPED. If you meet someone who you find attractive but already taken, you put your ass on reverse and back the fuck off. It's THAT simple. You think they look great together, ok, so if your partner looked BETTER with another person than you, then its a validation for him/her to cheat on you?
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Nothing is ever "that simple" in the BB house. Do you think for a second Cat would have continued to pursue Lawson had the thought for a second that he didn't want her to? This game they have been playing with each other is a two way street so before you throw Cat under the bus take a look at the situation and consider the circumstances.
 
l.a.r.a said:
As I said in another thread

One of the 3 things Lawson wanted BB to tell him, was if his girlfriend broke up with him.

So, she most probably broke up and BB told Lawson, and he is now single and free
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I still fail to see how this is much of a defence, even if it does turn out to be true. Tully was blasted when she went back in last year to tell Drew she was single--yes, in part because people were tired of her, but also because they found it tacky and disrespectful. How would it be different for Lawson to find out he'd been dumped for cheating and immediately stick his tongue down Cat's throat?
 
littlebear said:
I still fail to see how this is much of a defence, even if it does turn out to be true. Tully was blasted when she went back in last year to tell Drew she was single--yes, in part because people were tired of her, but also because they found it tacky and disrespectful. How would it be different for Lawson to find out he'd been dumped for cheating and immediately stick his tongue down Cat's throat?
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I defended Tully too. I feel sorry for the people involve if they suffer, but I don't moralize. Cheaters do exist in and out of the house. Life is not easy and we have to deal with it the best we can.

I just don't know enough about Lawson's relationship on the outside to judge him negatively. If Candice suffers I do hope she has friends to help her.
 
littlebear said:
I still fail to see how this is much of a defence, even if it does turn out to be true. Tully was blasted when she went back in last year to tell Drew she was single--yes, in part because people were tired of her, but also because they found it tacky and disrespectful. How would it be different for Lawson to find out he'd been dumped for cheating and immediately stick his tongue down Cat's throat?
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I'm astonished at the excuses tbh. Lawson knows Candice's family, he isn't just some random person she dated, but by extension part of her family in some way. Just as she is part of his in a way. They have five years of history, if not more before actually becoming exclusive to one another. They have shared so much in that time I imagine, grown up with one another, grown up with the each others families. She would have been there for his high and lows. And given the timing of his mums passing, she would have been there to see him through that too. These are actual moments that have been created during these five years. There is so much more to consider than apparently the heart wants what the heart wants crap. These people have been shown complete disrespect for a mere moment in bb. That is pure devastation, pure humiliation and pure heartbreak.

edit: It's not just a five year relationship, but given how young they are, this would have been her first love.
 
It boils down to respect.

Even if you think that you have feelings for someone else while you are on BB and you are in a relationship, you owe the other person IN the relationship the respect of waiting until you get out so that they can at least KNOW about it before half of Australia does!

There just is no defense for this. It is disgusting. Full stop.
 
CaspersMum said:
It boils down to respect.

Even if you think that you have feelings for someone else while you are on BB and you are in a relationship, you owe the other person IN the relationship the respect of waiting until you get out so that they can at least KNOW about it before half of Australia does!

There just is no defense for this. It is disgusting. Full stop.
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