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Housemate #5 TULLY!

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BTW, it's truly terrible how she reinforces damaging myths about lesbians (that "they just have to meet a right man" - that's the reason why I personally think that you shouldn't identify as lesbian if you're at all into men as well), and for those within LGBT community - about bisexuals, that ultimately (in case of bi women) they'll cheat on you with a man.

Exactly! I was chatting to my friend the other day about BB. She's a lesbian and she said the exact same thing about Tully.

She's really pulled a good one on Drew though. The repeated telling him that he's the only thing keeping her going in the house is genius. He can't leave her now. He'd look like a massive douche for leaving someone who he was apparently "keeping sane" (on a side note if this is her sane I don't want to see her insane).
 
I honestly think drew has his own issues. Maybe not obvious to us all, but that's the only way I can explain why he feels like he needs to be the one to fix things up and do the apologising.

That said though, he allowed himself to get caught up with a taken woman.
 
I honestly think drew has his own issues. Maybe not obvious to us all, but that's the only way I can explain why he feels like he needs to be the one to fix things up and do the apologising.

That said though, he allowed himself to get caught up with a taken woman.

Certainly agree. The alarm bells started ringing for me when he told Jade and the Sisters that he'd pretty much been in different relationships since he was 18 and was rarely single. This to me says that he's needy and is used to attaching himself to a person. That makes him a perfect target for Tully.
 
Certainly agree. The alarm bells started ringing for me when he told Jade and the Sisters that he'd pretty much been in different relationships since he was 18 and was rarely single. This to me says that he's needy and is used to attaching himself to a person. That makes him a perfect target for Tully.

Do you remember when he was talking to big brother and he said something about him being surprised that people can care for him? It didn't mean much to me then, but now with all that's happening, it sounds as if he didn't have that in the past. Tully is an emotional wreck and will only bring more harm to drew. She is already a harm to herself
 
Do you remember when he was talking to big brother and he said something about him being surprised that people can care for him? It didn't mean much to me then, but now with all that's happening, it sounds as if he didn't have that in the past.

Yep, I thought that too. Seems to me that he felt that way before entering the house and he felt that more after his perceived rejection by Jade. I'm in no way, shape or form blaming Jade for the mess he's in with Tully though. she did/still does make it obvious that she cared more about him than any of the other housemates, however she didn't care for him in the way that Drew wanted her to so he became very needy and vulnerable which gave Tully the perfect opportunity to swoop in and manipulate him.

They are just very uncomfortable to watch together. And it's doing a lot of damage to the both of them. I think BB really needs to step in and separate them for a bit. He was doing it with the boys vs. girls band task and it seemed to be working but it ended far too soon. The red/blue task from last season would be good.
 
Yep, I thought that too. Seems to me that he felt that way before entering the house and he felt that more after his perceived rejection by Jade. I'm in no way, shape or form blaming Jade for the mess he's in with Tully though. she did/still does make it obvious that she cared more about him than any of the other housemates, however she didn't care for him in the way that Drew wanted her to so he became very needy and vulnerable which gave Tully the perfect opportunity to swoop in and manipulate him.

They are just very uncomfortable to watch together. And it's doing a lot of damage to the both of them. I think BB really needs to step in and separate them for a bit. He was doing it with the boys vs. girls band task and it seemed to be working but it ended far too soon. The red/blue task from last season would be good.

I don't blame jade at all, like you said she cared for him, not the way he wanted perhaps. But I blame tully. She made this into something that wasn't. How many times would she bring up are you okay drew? Or I can see what jade is doing drew. If she hasn't done this, is impossible drew would have just appreciated a good friendship with jade and learned it is ok not to always be in a relationship? He could have gotten so much from this BB experience and now he has limited himself to that because of tully
 
Would/could you have predicted it - from what you know? (Re Tully, not Drew). Does it fit with what u think?

I never would've predicted this! Its possible some of psych tests indicated something like this could happen, but based on daily interactions and observations, no way. She has never hidden that she is into guys as well, but she seems to prefer females and she was totally crazy about her girlfriend - I wouldn't have expected her to cheat at all, irrespective of gender. Personally, I was very shocked.

[MENTION=34226]jessy_girl[/MENTION] You are irl friends with Tully right? How are her friends reacting to her atm?

She still has some general support, but it is diminishing almost daily. A lot of people are really unimpressed with what she is doing. Some people are viewing more as being upset with how she is being portrayed, but others are just recognising this as Tully's own mess.

I worry about her getting out of the house. I'm sure all her friendships will be restored, but there is definitely some damage.
 
I think she is beautiful! I think it is her frowning and scowling and aspects of her personality that detract from her beauty, but on a purely objective basis, I think she is gorgeous! Everyone has different opinions though.
 
What really bothered me about her fight with Drew (the one in the bedroom, where she tells him not to bitch about her to Jade), was how she blatantly fishes for compliments/reassurance. He told her what Jade had asked him about, and she said, "and the answer was?"

She does that sort of thing frequently (as does Jade), and it's a really annoying quality.
 
With Tully, I don't think she's necessarily beautiful or ugly. She's more unusual looking, which can be a beautiful thing in itself. I've heard pretty derogatory comments about her being a model over on Facebook and twitter, and to me she definitely has the model look. Most models (except those of the super model ilk) have a slightly (or majorly) unusual look to them. The only thing that surprises me with her being a model is her slouch, but perhaps that's her 'thing' like some models, especially a lot of cat walk models, have something that is traditionally an 'ugly' trait.
 
With Tully, I don't think she's necessarily beautiful or ugly. She's more unusual looking, which can be a beautiful thing in itself. I've heard pretty derogatory comments about her being a model over on Facebook and twitter, and to me she definitely has the model look. Most models (except those of the super model ilk) have a slightly (or majorly) unusual look to them. The only thing that surprises me with her being a model is her slouch, but perhaps that's her 'thing' like some models, especially a lot of cat walk models, have something that is traditionally an 'ugly' trait.

This is what I keep thinking about Jade too - she isn't the most beautiful person in the world (though I think she's very pretty), but she has things that make her unusual or make her stand out, which is what happens with most models.
 
This is what I keep thinking about Jade too - she isn't the most beautiful person in the world (though I think she's very pretty), but she has things that make her unusual or make her stand out, which is what happens with most models.
Also, she photographs *very* well. She makes unattractive facial expressions when she's speaking, but I've never seen a bad photo of her. Her modeling shots are incredible.

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She's stunning in photos!
 
Also, she photographs *very* well. She makes unattractive facial expressions when she's speaking, but I've never seen a bad photo of her. Her modeling shots are incredible.

Definitely. I just keep looking at all her photos going...wowww. Wish I photographed that well!

In regards to Tully, I think she needs to leave for her own mental health. That house has put her in a bad place. Clearly her (and Drew) are not very good at handling it....

I'm also worried that she will get boo'd on stage or that someone will shout out to her that she doesn't have a GF anymore. Sincerely hoping that the public strays away from that and that they also cut her some slack on social media. What Drew and herself are doing isn't right by any means (it was ok a couple of weeks ago), but I hope people remember she's a human being.
 
What stuns me is that I don't think this group of people that are working like crazy to save her actually realise that by keeping her in the house they're actually doing more and more damage to her.

Most of us who want to keep her in the house aren't so ridiculously melodramatic about the whole thing as if it's doing 'damage' to her and talking as if she won't be perfectly fine when she gets out beyond having to deal with a relationship problem like most people on the planet a fair few times in their lives. She will be perfectly fine and beyond sometimes having natural frustrations from the unusual situation she's in she is going well.
 
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