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Drew will score himself an eviction before Tully does. He doesn't have a fan left.
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Housemate #5 TULLY!
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MissKLee
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Thank you kindly, [MENTION=32134]smurfette[/MENTION] At least Misstopia is thriving, unlike these ridiculous BB couplings 
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FalseProphet
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That's just dumb. Drew is doing what any red-blooded male would do. He owes no allegiance to Talliah, and he has a girl giving him extraordinary attention.
I think too many people are making a huge deal out of something that can naturally happen.
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MissKLee
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Ahem. Him doing what "any red-blooded male would do" doesn't mean people have to like it. And showing allegiance to Tahlia isn't the point, he is showing what a shady character HE is ...in more ways than one. Yes, it can happen naturally, two people CAN be drawn to one another even when one is in a relationship..but to then act on that on national television shows a lack of brains and/or a disregard for all involved, not to mention he is throwing away his chance at winning the thing. Idiocy. Him, not us.
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FalseProphet
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You're right, people don't have to like it, but it doesn't mean that people should be up-in-arms about it. I don't see his actions as shady. I honestly se him doing what most guys would do, only he has made the mistake of doing it on TV. His chance of winning is probably gone, but I think it's ridiculous to see the hate he and Tully have gotten on social media.
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Autumn
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My guy friends get pissed when they find out a girl who is hitting on them is taken because they are not those kind of guys. They don't go for married or dating girls. They think it's a waste of their time and look down on cheaters.
Drew has gone from dreamy to gross and shady. I don't think Tully is giving him extrordinary attention. She is just crying and sulking on him and he's making her feel better. Then she is fighting with him over nothing making him feel bad. Now he's gossiping and making bad choices because of her and not sticking up for old friends. Even when he tries to be cute with her she doesn't laugh or smile at him... she just walks around hunched over and acts annoyed.
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FalseProphet
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One of us may have a skewed view (and I admit it may be me), but I think you're being naive in this situation. A guy who walks in and meets a girl, who says she has someone, but doesn't act like it at all in front of them, isn't going to stop the flirtation. It might escalate, but I'm not going to blame a guy for trying for a girl who is clearly into him.
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MissKLee
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Yes, I hear what you are saying. The amount of hate and, on the other side of it, the amount of love these people get hit with is astounding. It's the nature of a game/show like this though. They are just regular people like you and on, going about their life and making the same kind of mistakes or acheiving the same successes that we would, yet they are scrutinized and judged for every little thing. The nature of the beast. It's why I would never ever audition for BB. I am happy living my life and being my own judge, I wouldn't much care for the rest of Australia doing it
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FalseProphet
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I agree as well. As an American, I'm starting to believe some Aussies have this extreme view of the perfect man, when that just isn't happening. Drew did what he did, and while I wouldn't have done it on television, it's not abnormal. I think things happen, and we can all sit on our couches and judge it, but its just human behavior. That's why I love this show.
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Queen Alla
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Just my few cents worth on Tully:
When the show first started and they introduced the housemates, my thoughts with Tully were that she would be a great housemate. I didn't think she'd hd back, and while I didn't think she would be someone if want as a bestie, I was thrilled that she was there and would fill my 'love to hate' quota. I thought she'd be savvy, blunt, open, honest, and start arguments and drama because she wasn't afraid to voice her opinion. I also thought she'd be a somewhat fair person and be able to take as much as she dished out.
I was right and wrong about her. She's certainly filling up the drama quota, but over time I started to find it draining rather than entertaining. There are only so many times you can watch a woman in her twenties have two year old tantrums about not getting her own way before it becomes tiresome. I thought given her apparent love of big brother and her job she'd be savvy to the game playing, but she's just being played, without a single shred of self awareness. As things started to progress with Drew I actually found it really uncomfortable to watch. In my younger days I was her. Not the cheating, but the unhealthy codependence, the snapping and manufacturing others doing you wrong and then turning around and being needy.
Last night's show I found really uncomfortable. I love drama, I love seeing people's fall from grace. But it's come to the point now where, without trying to sound like an amateur psychologist, I think she needs help. Not because she cheated, I don't condone that at all but I don't think that on its own is a call for someone needing help, but her behaviour from Day 1 is just showing someone spiralling into self destruction. Obviously, we're only seeing a VERY small snippet of what's going on, and they're highlighting the drama. But I can see so much of my younger self who desperately needed help (and thankfully got it) in her behaviour. And I do fear for her mental well being when she gets out and the backlash she is going to receive. I really hope, for her sake, one of the following things happen:
1. She leaves next week before she has another X amount of weeks to self destruct and gets the help and support she needs.
2. She has a complete 180 and develops a massive amount of genuine self awareness and realises the spiral she's on. She had the potential to do that after the boos, but she went into denial about her behaviour instead. Not that I want to see it, but a breakdown of some sort in the diary room expressing regret AND then following through with changing her behaviour, might at least save her from some public bashing so she only has her personal life to sort through.
3. She manages to stop bringing drama so BB stop showcasing her so much and she flies under the radar a bit and the public lose interest in her and forget this drama by the time she goes out. Again, so she only had to worry about her private life and not the public bashing she's sure to get if she left right now.
Unfortunately, I don't think she's likely to change and BB will keep showcasing her because she brings drama and ratings (and it is their right, and job to do that, this isn't an anti BB message) and she will have a really hard time when she leaves. I know she's made her bed and she has to sleep in it, and watching her and drew last night made me feel ill, and I do really dislike her actions in general - even prior to Drew. But I feel sorry for her too because I really don't think she's an emotionally stable person and its painful to watch her self destruct.
When the show first started and they introduced the housemates, my thoughts with Tully were that she would be a great housemate. I didn't think she'd hd back, and while I didn't think she would be someone if want as a bestie, I was thrilled that she was there and would fill my 'love to hate' quota. I thought she'd be savvy, blunt, open, honest, and start arguments and drama because she wasn't afraid to voice her opinion. I also thought she'd be a somewhat fair person and be able to take as much as she dished out.
I was right and wrong about her. She's certainly filling up the drama quota, but over time I started to find it draining rather than entertaining. There are only so many times you can watch a woman in her twenties have two year old tantrums about not getting her own way before it becomes tiresome. I thought given her apparent love of big brother and her job she'd be savvy to the game playing, but she's just being played, without a single shred of self awareness. As things started to progress with Drew I actually found it really uncomfortable to watch. In my younger days I was her. Not the cheating, but the unhealthy codependence, the snapping and manufacturing others doing you wrong and then turning around and being needy.
Last night's show I found really uncomfortable. I love drama, I love seeing people's fall from grace. But it's come to the point now where, without trying to sound like an amateur psychologist, I think she needs help. Not because she cheated, I don't condone that at all but I don't think that on its own is a call for someone needing help, but her behaviour from Day 1 is just showing someone spiralling into self destruction. Obviously, we're only seeing a VERY small snippet of what's going on, and they're highlighting the drama. But I can see so much of my younger self who desperately needed help (and thankfully got it) in her behaviour. And I do fear for her mental well being when she gets out and the backlash she is going to receive. I really hope, for her sake, one of the following things happen:
1. She leaves next week before she has another X amount of weeks to self destruct and gets the help and support she needs.
2. She has a complete 180 and develops a massive amount of genuine self awareness and realises the spiral she's on. She had the potential to do that after the boos, but she went into denial about her behaviour instead. Not that I want to see it, but a breakdown of some sort in the diary room expressing regret AND then following through with changing her behaviour, might at least save her from some public bashing so she only has her personal life to sort through.
3. She manages to stop bringing drama so BB stop showcasing her so much and she flies under the radar a bit and the public lose interest in her and forget this drama by the time she goes out. Again, so she only had to worry about her private life and not the public bashing she's sure to get if she left right now.
Unfortunately, I don't think she's likely to change and BB will keep showcasing her because she brings drama and ratings (and it is their right, and job to do that, this isn't an anti BB message) and she will have a really hard time when she leaves. I know she's made her bed and she has to sleep in it, and watching her and drew last night made me feel ill, and I do really dislike her actions in general - even prior to Drew. But I feel sorry for her too because I really don't think she's an emotionally stable person and its painful to watch her self destruct.
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You've never been cheated on have you?
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FalseProphet
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Actually, I have. It was a horrendously painful experience. But, it opened my eyes and I can see why people do the things they do. I wasn't cheated on because I wasn't loved, but I was cheated on because it was no longer good in our relationship.
I don't want to pretend to know why Tully did what she did, but I'm big enough to know things happen for a reason.
I hardly think having the belief that you shouldn't act on any feelings unless you're both available, is an extreme view of the perfect man. If anything it's just the usual moral standard of decent person.
I truly feel bad for you if you think cheating is normal behaviour.
As someone that has also experienced it, I am sorry to hear that...however I have to disagree with your points here. To me when people cheat it says a lot about their character. It shows they have absolutely no respect for their partner. Tully has essentially left Tahlia to bear the public pain and embarrassment of watching her partner hook up with a guy that she's just met on national television. If something isn't right in the relationship, you end it. Simple as that. If Tully has been so certain this week that she was going home Im sure she could have resisted making a move on Drew and had enough respect for her partner to wait until she left and broke up with her.
It also shows very weak morals by Drew. It shows that both of them care more about the immediate desire to get some action in the house rather than the long-term pain of someone at home that can't do anything but sit back at watch it unfold. What Tully did was disgusting, but Drew had no hesitations assisting which just shows me that he is as weak willed as Tully.
It's easy to say "these things happen" which is true, but people of good character don't let it. I don't know what kind of people who spend time with, but I've seen from experience that if a taken girl made a move on one of my male friends they would back away very quickly.
And to be honest I don't even think this whole Tully/cheating thing is the only reason people have turned on Drew. For me the backstabbing, gossip and lack of backbone are equally unattractive.
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FalseProphet
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I don't feel like charting is normal behavior; I feel like attraction is. I'm not condoning what happened, but I'm not condemning it either. People get hurt, and you can't explain why, but its in the moment. Tully and Drew we're wrong to do it, but I won't get mad at the situation.
I'm sorry but this in the moment crap doesn't fly with me. Sure you can develop feelings for someone else whilst in a relationship but in the end it's about respect. You should have to respect to end the relationship or if the single party ensure they have ended it before you act on your feelings.
Maybe I am the only one who thinks this, but I just don't see how you can't condemn their actions.
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FalseProphet
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How could she end it in the house? She had no idea what would happen once in there.u
SHE WAITS?!?! Is that so unbelievably difficult?
Exactly! Regardless of gay/straight/bi she was in a relationship and it's selfish and cruel to make the person you supposedly care about go through that public humiliation. Tully chose to go on tv, Tahlia didn't.
While some may understand how it could happen it doesn't mean it's the right thing and the excuses people make are bizarre.
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