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Housemate #5 TULLY!

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keke said:
If the real question you are asking is have I been faithful to my partner the answer is yes. However, if the question is the one you have asked the answer is no, I will not sleep with you. Life is too short to waste time with idiots.
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Umm, what? Don't flatter yourself, that's not what I asked. You said making out is not being unfaithful so naturally that brings the question where do you draw the line. I think you are avoiding answering the question.
 
keke is either trolling or has moral standards that are different from most of society. Don't bother guys
 
I see that lots of people battle with keke over this cheating term, I think just ignore as obviously he is loving causing a stir......better ignored
 
keke said:
Actually I don't think I've mentioned Tully's girlfriend in any way other than incidentally. And I don't really want to bring her into it at all. In fact I don't really want to talk about Tully in this context other than the effect that the apparent controversy had on a section of the BB viewing population.

I usually do not watch BB - only if there are any interesting characters do I bother. This year those interesting characters are Tim and Tully.

When I first noticed Tully she was depressed and weepy - a complete wreck. Then she got with Drew and started to pull herself together. Great I thought. It did not occur to me that her behavior was controversial. Then a became aware of a backlash against "cheating" (whatever that might mean in this context) and "unfaithfulness", etc. And I was hearing views of sexual ethics that I had not heard expressed in the West in 50 years. So, when was it that Australia reverted to a previous ethic?

At that time I took a look at some of the comments posted at various sites - including here. Reading them I was transported to the KSA, expecting a statement from the Ulema and a stoning soon. These comments were very creepy - made by creepy people who have a creepy view of relationships.

It is in the paradigm of these people that Tully has been unfaithful. Otherwise, in any progressive paradigm, Tully has been faithful.
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But it's common knowledge that cheating hurts the partner who is being cheated on. Even though you may have a 'progressive' relationship, most people don't, and in my opinion, it should be up to the people in the relationship to decide what's right and wrong. That isn't to say that I think Tully shouldn't have gotten with Drew - I like Drully, and Im pretty sure Tully and Tahlia weren't going to stay together for long anyway - but the point is, Tully was unfaithful by her own standards.
 
Exactly my point also. Tully admitted on live radio that she cheated. I don't know how keke can ignore that. In my opinion this makes Tully seen in better light than if she had denied everything.
 
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BBfan- said:
But it's common knowledge that cheating hurts the partner who is being cheated on. Even though you may have a 'progressive' relationship, most people don't, and in my opinion, it should be up to the people in the relationship to decide what's right and wrong. That isn't to say that I think Tully shouldn't have gotten with Drew - I like Drully, and Im pretty sure Tully and Tahlia weren't going to stay together for long anyway - but the point is, Tully was unfaithful by her own standards.
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Do you use 'cheat' as a synonym for 'unfaithful'?

So how do you come to the conclusion that "Tully was unfaithful by her own standards"? Are you sure that you don't mean that she was unfaithful by your standards?

When you say that most don't have a progressive relationship I can't say whether that is true or not. But I can say that to most people I know Tully's behavior would not be considered unfaithful. This is why I wondered when did Australia become so regressive?
 
molls said:
Exactly my point also. Tully admitted on live radio that she cheated. I don't know how keke can ignore that. In my opinion this makes Tully seen in better light than if she had denied everything.
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I've tried to listen to all the radio interviews that I could find. I have not heard Tully admit that she was unfaithful.
 
pinktulip said:
I see that lots of people battle with keke over this cheating term, I think just ignore as obviously he is loving causing a stir......better ignored
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When I look up the word 'cheat' in the dictionary I see that it is defined as a person who gets property or benefit by fraud. I cannot believe that anybody would accuse Tully acting fraudulently so you must be using to mean something else.
 
keke said:
I've tried to listen to all the radio interviews that I could find. I have not heard Tully admit that she was unfaithful.
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I think you are nitpicking now. Unfaithful, cheater, infidel, adulteress they are all the same in this context.

un·faith·ful (n-fthfl)
adj.
1. Not adhering to promises, obligations, or allegiances; disloyal. See Synonyms at faithless.
2.
a. Not true or constant to one's sexual partner.​
b. Not true to one's spouse; guilty of adultery.​

faith·less (fthls)
adj.
1. Not true to duty or obligation; disloyal.
2. Having no religious faith.
3. Unworthy of faith or trust; unreliable.

cheat (cht)
v. cheat·ed, cheat·ing, cheats
v.intr.
1. To act dishonestly; practice fraud.
2. To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards.
3. Informal To be sexually unfaithful: cheat on a spouse.

She said in the radio interview that she cheated which means the same as being unfaithful.

In those gifs, most people would consider french kissing cheating.
 
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BBfan- said:
But it's common knowledge that cheating hurts the partner who is being cheated on. Even though you may have a 'progressive' relationship, most people don't, and in my opinion, it should be up to the people in the relationship to decide what's right and wrong. That isn't to say that I think Tully shouldn't have gotten with Drew - I like Drully, and Im pretty sure Tully and Tahlia weren't going to stay together for long anyway - but the point is, Tully was unfaithful by her own standards.
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On a wider horizon there is another consideration.

Since Tully entered a compound in which she could receive communication from, or send communication to, her girlfriend then she was not available to her girlfriend in an emotional, physical, or any other sense. This was true irrespective of what Tully did inside the house. As long as she kept faith with her girlfriend then she was being faithful.

It seems to me that your position is that Tully could only remain faithful only by becoming emotionally and physically celibate - to the extent of not even kissing anybody. The problem is that celibacy is very unhealthy. So much so that when I last left Australia the federal government was talking about a commission to investigate abuses against children committed by Roman Catholic priests - abuse which many people attribute to celibacy within the church. So I struggle to understand why you think it is such a good thing.
 
molls said:
I think you are nitpicking now. Unfaithful, cheater, infidel, adulteress they are all the same in this context.

un·faith·ful (n-fthfl)
adj.
1. Not adhering to promises, obligations, or allegiances; disloyal. See Synonyms at faithless.
2.
a. Not true or constant to one's sexual partner.​
b. Not true to one's spouse; guilty of adultery.​

faith·less (fthls)
adj.
1. Not true to duty or obligation; disloyal.
2. Having no religious faith.
3. Unworthy of faith or trust; unreliable.

cheat (cht)
v. cheat·ed, cheat·ing, cheats
v.intr.
1. To act dishonestly; practice fraud.
2. To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards.
3. Informal To be sexually unfaithful: cheat on a spouse.

She said in the radio interview that she cheated which means the same as being unfaithful.

In those gifs, most people would consider french kissing cheating.
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I see. I'm using a different dictionary.

Which radio program are you refering to. I have not heard her say that she cheated.
 
Jesus keke you've been going on with this bullshit for months. Give it a rest why don't you. No one cares about your special snowflake definition of cheating.

Just stop

cheers

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