Episode Day 2 (10 Nov 2025) - Live Special - 13th HM

Now the show has started and you can see the same panicking and messy creative direction. It's slightly BBUK but not really. It's slightly OG but not really.
Yeah, it's like ITV, Channel 7, Channel 10, and BBUS all rolled into one. The constant music in the live shows is even giving me BBCAN / European BB vibes.

I personally don't dislike it, but it's definitely not the OG BBAU we were promised.
 
I thought tonight was a great ep. even though the editing isn’t favourable, i still think there’s a lot of elements they’ve nailed. house and stage looks great, housemates are awesome and so is mel.

initially i was fully against them adding in music to any edits. surprising to me i actually liked the music they played while mel was talking, it made a fun vibe.
i was also fully against any music in the daily show, however, i look back and honestly some 10 era daily shows felt slow and unbearable at times. i think music is fine at the start of ep and transitions or maybe during some funny light hearted moments to add a funky/bubbly vibe, but i don’t like when it’s used to convey emotion like when colin was crying or to make moments more tense like when bb was telling the task. that’s for me when it feels overly edited and manipulative and takes away the authentic social experiment bb feeling.

but the live show felt much better tonight then the rushed edited launch.
 
I thought tonight was a great ep. even though the editing isn’t favourable, i still think there’s a lot of elements they’ve nailed. house and stage looks great, housemates are awesome and so is mel.

initially i was fully against them adding in music to any edits. surprising to me i actually liked the music they played while mel was talking, it made a fun vibe.
i was also fully against any music in the daily show, however, i look back and honestly some 10 era daily shows felt slow and unbearable at times. i think music is fine at the start of ep and transitions or maybe during some funny light hearted moments to add a funky/bubbly vibe, but i don’t like when it’s used to convey emotion like when colin was crying or to make moments more tense like when bb was telling the task. that’s for me when it feels overly edited and manipulative and takes away the authentic social experiment bb feeling.

but the live show felt much better tonight then the rushed edited launch.
Fair argument, I feel like it’s better off left out completely. I want the daily shows to feel like simple scenes captured on camera that were eavesdropping in on.

Scenes in the diary room should absolutely not be treated as retrospective confessionals nor should there be any production interference trying to sway us to think positively of a housemate. That should be organic.

But I can understand your point about sometimes the old school daily shows feeling slow.
 
I thought tonight was a great ep. even though the editing isn’t favourable, i still think there’s a lot of elements they’ve nailed. house and stage looks great, housemates are awesome and so is mel.

initially i was fully against them adding in music to any edits. surprising to me i actually liked the music they played while mel was talking, it made a fun vibe.
i was also fully against any music in the daily show, however, i look back and honestly some 10 era daily shows felt slow and unbearable at times. i think music is fine at the start of ep and transitions or maybe during some funny light hearted moments to add a funky/bubbly vibe, but i don’t like when it’s used to convey emotion like when colin was crying or to make moments more tense like when bb was telling the task. that’s for me when it feels overly edited and manipulative and takes away the authentic social experiment bb feeling.

but the live show felt much better tonight then the rushed edited launch.
Problem with the music is it’s a cheap copyright free music and the first track they found.

I really don’t feel when someone is crying you need to play a cheap snob song to make the audience feel something.
 
agreed DR should not be used as confessionals, feels very un-BB.

don’t get me wrong as an OG fan, i would rather them not play music. i only think music is somewhat okay during transitioning scenes or at the start of the ep, however never when moments or actual footage is playing out, apart from the once in a blue moon light hearted moment. Rn it feels like it’s played during 40% of the daily show footage, however i think it should go down to 5%.

i think that’s a good medium that helps modernise the format against all the highly produced shite on TV.
 
Unfortunately this seems just another typical internet forum where 4 or 5 loud frustrated people repeat themselves 10 times with all their negativity and bashing the show for minor things like there is 3 seconds of the wrong music or whatever its ridiculous.

Meanwhile the majority is just enjoying the show and having fun. Try it!
Sadly this forum isn’t like it used to be. It was filled with proper super fans who brought great insight and not as immature. Nice to see some familiar names with clever comments.
 
Look I’m all for differing views to create discussion. But production not revealing that little tid bit about Jane feels dirty to me. We were led to believe we were getting a cool grandma. They obviously wanted her in the house and they obviously want to orchestrate political drama among the housemates. This show is meant to be authentic. I’m kinda pissed. At least UK is up front about it.
I feel duped. Wouldn’t have voted for her had I known
 
The OG format of the 2000s wouldn't work today on TV. This is probably the "modern" version of the OG experience. Like ITV without production interference.
You’re honestly a fucking troll. You were here hyping the 7 era and here you are again… I don’t think a single one of us OG BB fans truly expected to see a carbon copy of the 2000’s series but we we’re sold a series that would carry the same DNA. That “DNA” is authenticity… I saw none of that in the first daily show.

You also say that there’s no production interference? Excuse me? The entire first to last task is nothing but production interference. Taking away HM’s luggage… Production interference. Giving someone access to clothes but not allowing them to access their own…Production interference.

I also don’t know how you can say that OG BB “wouldn’t work” in the modern era when no one has even tried. It’s quite honestly a cop out. BB isn’t going to be successful again by imitating the shows it inspired. Its success is going to come by focusing on what makes BB different from these other shows. Like I said above it’s authenticity that sets BB apart.
 
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Look I’m all for differing views to create discussion.
I’d agree with you IF it was possible for people of opposing views to find common ground… Sadly the reality in the modern world is that it’s simply not possible. Or at very least extremely rare.

Given the shit that’s been revealed so far it’s clear BB didn’t go out in search of moderates.
 
I hate homophobes as a gay guy, but to be fair many conservatives (MAGAs included) nowadays seem to be fully supportive or at least accepting of gay people. Even Trump attended a gay wedding.

Homophobes are either the far right neo nazis or the deeply religious right.
What a ridiculous statement. You can’t say you’re “supportive” and “accepting” of gay people while actively doing and supporting things that hurt them.

The orange shit face only likes gays when it makes him look good. His supporters only like gay people when they’re obedient and not “shoving it in their faces”. If you have the balls to live openly, without shame, or even worse have an opinion that’s different to theirs you’re less than human.

It’s performative.
 
One of the most annoying things from tonight’s episode was BB playing therapist… It’s one thing for BB to be there to vent about issues and another thing for BB to give HM’s advice or words of encouragement. It completely undermines the premise of the show. We watch the show for the HM’s. Resolution of problems comes from THE HM’s.

The whole Colin situation would have been so much more impactful if we saw him confide in one of his HM’s and seeing them try and lift him back up… There was something about BB doing it multiple times that felt empty. Also very strange considering the drama around Leon and production wanting a more generic BB.

I’m not saying BB can’t show compassion or understanding but ultimately I find it way more stratifying when HM’s are left to solve their own problems.

Hopefully that makes sense. My head is spinning right now…
 
There's only 3 housemates that are older than I imagine the majority of people here are and 2 of them are far right supporters FFS. Alannah seems really awesome on the live stream and can put the undie boys back in their place which I enjoy. The issue these days it's that it's obvious that the younger contestants know exactly how to play to the cameras and create TV moments that are more likely to make air than the older housemates and I can see Alannah being a bit of a victim of this TBH.

Agree with everyone else that the edited shows are pretty bad. Mel is so cute and the only real highlight of them so far TBH. We just aren't going to see enough of the actual interactions between the housemates that aren't part of a task on the edited episodes I think. Which has been happening since like 2012 but I was hoping it would be better back with 10.
 
Wow, that was a difficult watch and it was only episode 2.

To those bitching about members that are disappointed with this reboot - it's unfair of you to expect everyone to be satisfied after the amazing promotional campaign 10 have been running for the better part of 2025. You're verbalising being content and others should be able to do the same with an opposing view. Even more so to the long time fans.

They promised a return to the OG format and have not delivered outside of it being back to live. I understand things need to be modernised but what we're seeing is a washed up version of [UK network that can't be named] and the utter garb that 7 pushed on us. The UK's version does not need to be the "modern" template. Be original! The general consensus with this reboot is we were NOT going down that route again. There MUST be a happy medium between what 10 originally produced and the crap we've watched the last couple nights. Hell, I'd take Kris Noble's version back at this point if he is still around.

Yes, it's still early days. Yes, they still have a chance to make some tweaks. My concern is they've already set the precedent for how they're going to edit and produce this show. Sometimes it's small things that add up to create an issue everyone shares. The voice, lackluster house, editing style, backing tracks, launch night flops, emoting first-person BB... added all together and they're a pretty big issue. Mel has been the only positive constant the last couple days, and I do think they've mostly been successful in their casting this year.

I'm willing to give it a week and see if they can get their act together until I opt to switch off for the final time. I am happy Big Brother is back, but I really do believe this is Australia's last attempt at actually keeping this show on the air. They need to do it right and right now they are failing. After watching the old streams for the last several months I think they're heavily under-delivering. Part of the reasons for the streams was touted at being an opportunity for producers to see what worked and what didn't. From what I've seen they must've not watched a single episode. Even a simple change like how they're editing this (in a Disney/Nickelodeon style, no less) could make or break the season. It's plastered all over the most recent threads. Most are not liking the new editing style. Most are not liking therapist Big Brother. Most are not liking the house. Most are not liking the elevator music.

Oddly, I'm still optimistic this season can still turn itself around. The coming days well tell.

I will say this, if you aren't happy with how they're producing the show, post it on their social feeds. They're reading them before they tap 'hide'. If enough people comment then someone will be sharing feedback with the powers that be. It's also likely that because of fans like us voicing their frustration during the 7 days is the reason 10 even opted to resuscitate the show and bring back the live format.

I've watched BB since 2003. Some modern changes were expected to meet the views of a modern audience. This is NOT it. Do better.
 

Some repeated points but I think I did a much better job articulating them in response to his TikTok than I did above.

I saw a lot of producer manipulation and not enough of the HM’s pushing the narrative forward. They’re the stars and it seems like BB doesn’t trust them to do what they were brought in to do. The task and the “bargain basement” twist are clearly set up for drama. Yes Colin being upset was a “moment” but we saw BB unnecessarily interfering by calling him to the DR the moment he started crying and then giving him words of encouragement. Would have been so much impactful if they trusted him to go to the DR on his own and then leaving him to confide in his other HM’s. Production aren’t letting things build they’re manipulating the narrative and not trusting the format to do what it’s supposed to be doing. Watching the show right now is like going to the zoo but every exhibit has a trainer in it directing the animals on what to do.
 
One of the most annoying things from tonight’s episode was BB playing therapist… It’s one thing for BB to be there to vent about issues and another thing for BB to give HM’s advice or words of encouragement. It completely undermines the premise of the show. We watch the show for the HM’s. Resolution of problems comes from THE HM’s.
I think there's a balance, but I don't think that was it. 😃

The Nick era felt a bit too stunted to me. You always got the impression the HMs were being supported (e.g. "The Incident"; scrapping the babies task in BB07), but it was always in a really detached/impersonal way.

Pete and Leon actually struck a pretty good balance in the 9 era of being authoritative, but also capable of fun moments and more tender/caring ones. But also retained the strict, formal structure Nick had brought in (always third-person; Big Brother greets HMs by saying their name and nothing else; "Is there anything else?" and "That is all")

Which is why it felt so weird to hear Pete saying "Fine, thank you" when an HM asked how he was. A small thing, but that'd never happen in OG BBAU. Makes me wonder if it's the producers demanding a different direction, or Pete wanting to put his mark on it. 🤔

Tbh I'm just glad they seem to have ended the dubbing. That's a ridiculously low bar to have cleared, but it was so refreshing to hear a "deputy" voice when Colin was in the shop. I'm looking forward to hearing "Big Sister" now haha.
 
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