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Cat & Lawson - What really happened

Noxious said:
Tonight i was sent a message from a friend, who got this piece of information from a reliable source.
Haters can hate, but i know this to be true.

The following happened in the Sanctuary.

He went down on her in bed and she gave him a hand job. In the spa he was toe fucking her too.
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Was it in the Daily Mail though?

I havent still got the recording, but I thought that when both Cat and Lawson were in the Power room being confronted with the 2 x "Secrets" videos. I thought Lawson was in favour of looking at the housemates nominations?? In which case, he wasnt bothered about the house watching them in the Sanctuary. I maybe wrong, I was once :-).

I'm deaf and rely to a large extent on subtitles, but I do have a cochlear implant, so I can hear pretty well with that. What did others make of the Cat/Lawson dialogue in the Power room?
 
tedfthis said:
Was it in the Daily Mail though?

I havent still got the recording, but I thought that when both Cat and Lawson were in the Power room being confronted with the 2 x "Secrets" videos. I thought Lawson was in favour of looking at the housemates nominations?? In which case, he wasnt bothered about the house watching them in the Sanctuary. I maybe wrong, I was once :).

I'm deaf and rely to a large extent on subtitles, but I do have a cochlear implant, so I can hear pretty well with that. What did others make of the Cat/Lawson dialogue in the Power room?
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Lawson didn't want Cat to look at the nominations, but he left it up to Cat to decide as she was the Head of House for that week.
 
Noxious said:
No, its all good, i tossed up whether to post this or not. As i knew ppl would be secptical Ive been on this forum for many years, i've never posted bullshit. Im not about to start now. What i am, is someone whos very good friend has a source closely connected to the show who gave me the info. I have relayed it for my fellow forum members and BB enthusiasts. No hidden agendas, no reason to lie.
Take from it what you will.
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Dont the staff have to sign confidentiality agreements, or contracts, like the housemates?
 
I can't believe how gullible majority of you seem to be. I think it's because most of you deep down really want it to be true. Let's look at the source of this so called truth for a second. So the source is somebody (@Noxious) on a BB forum on the internet, and now they heard it off somebody else (god knows who, presumably a friend) who apparently knows somebody (again, god knows who) close to the show (and what defines somebody as being "close" to the show? do they have to live in QLD to be close to the show? employed by Ch.9? appear in the BB credits? what?). But wait, it was posted on a BB forum...it must be true!

Now @Noxious I know it appears as though I'm having a go at you and for that I apologise, I'm truly not. You're merely passing on information that was handed down to somebody you trust who in turn handed it down to you, so you're like the messenger's messenger. And if it's not fair to "shoot the messenger" then it's defineitly not fair to "shoot the messenger's messenger". I'm more disappointed with the majority of the people rushing to judgement that it must be true based on 3rd hand hearsay evidence that was posted online. Put it this way: I don't think "3rd hand hearsay" is a good way to get your facts.
 
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OO_17 said:
I can't believe how gullible majority of you seem to be. I think it's because most of you deep down really want it to be true. Let's look at the source of this so called truth for a second. So the source is somebody (@Noxious) on a BB forum on the internet, and now they heard it off somebody else (god knows who, presumably a friend) who apparently knows somebody (again, god knows who) close to the show (and what defines somebody as being "close" to the show? do they have to live in QLD to be close to the show? employed by Ch.9? appear in the BB credits? what?). But wait, it was posted on a BB forum...it must be true!

Now @Noxious I know it appears as though I'm having a go at you and for that I apologise, I'm truly now. You're merely passing on information that was handed down to somebody you trust who in turn handed it down to you, so you're like the messenger's messenger. And if it's not fair to "shoot the messenger" then it's defineitly not fair to "shoot the messenger's messenger". I'm more disappointed with the majority of the people rushing to judgement that it must be true based on 3rd hand hearsay evidence that was posted online. Put it this way: I don't think "3rd hand hearsay" is a good way to get your facts.
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So you think that nothing happened between Cat and Lawson in the Sanctuary?
 
reepbot said:
So you think that nothing happened between Cat and Lawson in the Sanctuary?
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I don't know & I don't presume to know...but my opinion based on the footage we saw is that nothing of a sexual nature happened. I don't even think they kissed. How could they have? I know we heard a kissing sound but their heads were nowhere near one another at the time. And upon going back into the house both Cat & Lawson said the exact same thing to the other HMs (nothing happened). Had they had a discussion about "what to say to the other HMs" I'm sure BB would've shown it as that would make for great television. I know BB can't show anything to jeopardise their PG rating but they could show any conversations Cat & Lawson may have had to deceive the other HMs had infact something happened in the sanctuary, but I don't think anything did happen.
 
tedfthis said:
Dont the staff have to sign confidentiality agreements, or contracts, like the housemates?
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I dont know, however, the HMs agree to be filmed and have that footage played to Australia. I would imagine that the footage belongs to channel 9 for them to do what they like with. They played pretty sexual stuff on uncut in the past, just now theres no timeslot or show for this to be shown on.
 
OO_17 said:
I can't believe how gullible majority of you seem to be. I think it's because most of you deep down really want it to be true. Let's look at the source of this so called truth for a second. So the source is somebody (@Noxious) on a BB forum on the internet, and now they heard it off somebody else (god knows who, presumably a friend) who apparently knows somebody (again, god knows who) close to the show (and what defines somebody as being "close" to the show? do they have to live in QLD to be close to the show? employed by Ch.9? appear in the BB credits? what?). But wait, it was posted on a BB forum...it must be true!

Now @Noxious I know it appears as though I'm having a go at you and for that I apologise, I'm truly not. You're merely passing on information that was handed down to somebody you trust who in turn handed it down to you, so you're like the messenger's messenger. And if it's not fair to "shoot the messenger" then it's defineitly not fair to "shoot the messenger's messenger". I'm more disappointed with the majority of the people rushing to judgement that it must be true based on 3rd hand hearsay evidence that was posted online. Put it this way: I don't think "3rd hand hearsay" is a good way to get your facts.
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Third hand hearsay is what got us the info last year that Justynn went apeshit in the Presidential Suite. Strongly denied by BB and Ch 9 at the time although now Nathan has confirmed he in fact did. It's also what got us the info that Nathan had quit the show. The two people involved are in the house so they obviously can't comment and since they've had no qualms about flatout lying to their supposed friends' faces about what happened in there, I wouldn't even believe what they said now anyway. So other than that we have only Ch 9/BB - who kept referencing the bath in their ads and articles on Jump-In - and people who have seen the footage. Noxious' friend claims to know what happened so unless they're proven wrong somehow, I'm not sure why it'd be surprising people are taking their account at face value.

Also Lawson admitted last night that they kissed. There is zero doubt about that now for those who kept trying to insist nothing happened.
 
OO_17 said:
I don't know & I don't presume to know...but my opinion based on the footage we saw is that nothing of a sexual nature happened. I don't even think they kissed. How could they have? I know we heard a kissing sound but their heads were nowhere near one another at the time. And upon going back into the house both Cat & Lawson said the exact same thing to the other HMs (nothing happened). Had they had a discussion about "what to say to the other HMs" I'm sure BB would've shown it as that would make for great television. I know BB can't show anything to jeopardise their PG rating but they could show any conversations Cat & Lawson may have had to deceive the other HMs had infact something happened in the sanctuary, but I don't think anything did happen.
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So if they didn't even kiss why did Cat refuse to allow the other housemates to see the Sanctuary footage? Why did Lawson cry in the diary room?

It's pretty obvious that something of a sexual nature happened between Cat and Lawson in the Sanctury. How many times have you seen the footage of Cat and Lawson's trip to the Sanctuary, and the video of Cat and Lawson in the power room watching themselves in the Sanctuary? All the clues are there.
 
One thing I have to say about this. No mention of kissing? It's just sex acts.

Also Lawson said during his kiss/marry/evict segment that he "sort of" went there with kissing Cat. Does that mean he's saying that his toe fucking and pussy eating count as "sort of"? hahahAHAHA

Something happened alright, but I won't believe anything without receipts.
 
OO_17 said:
I can't believe how gullible majority of you seem to be. I think it's because most of you deep down really want it to be true. Let's look at the source of this so called truth for a second. So the source is somebody (@Noxious) on a BB forum on the internet, and now they heard it off somebody else (god knows who, presumably a friend) who apparently knows somebody (again, god knows who) close to the show (and what defines somebody as being "close" to the show? do they have to live in QLD to be close to the show? employed by Ch.9? appear in the BB credits? what?). But wait, it was posted on a BB forum...it must be true!

Now @Noxious I know it appears as though I'm having a go at you and for that I apologise, I'm truly not. You're merely passing on information that was handed down to somebody you trust who in turn handed it down to you, so you're like the messenger's messenger. And if it's not fair to "shoot the messenger" then it's defineitly not fair to "shoot the messenger's messenger". I'm more disappointed with the majority of the people rushing to judgement that it must be true based on 3rd hand hearsay evidence that was posted online. Put it this way: I don't think "3rd hand hearsay" is a good way to get your facts.
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OO_17 said:
I don't know & I don't presume to know...but my opinion based on the footage we saw is that nothing of a sexual nature happened. I don't even think they kissed. How could they have? I know we heard a kissing sound but their heads were nowhere near one another at the time. And upon going back into the house both Cat & Lawson said the exact same thing to the other HMs (nothing happened). Had they had a discussion about "what to say to the other HMs" I'm sure BB would've shown it as that would make for great television. I know BB can't show anything to jeopardise their PG rating but they could show any conversations Cat & Lawson may have had to deceive the other HMs had infact something happened in the sanctuary, but I don't think anything did happen.
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There are two of us on here that were told the exact same details from ppl involved with the show. I don't know the other person, and our sources appear to be from 2 different ppl connected to the show.
As i stated before, im not fussed who believes it, but i trust my friend whom ive known for many many years and i trust his source. Take from it what you want, whether that be all of it, partial or zero.
No skin off my nose. But if it all comes out and i hope it does, i will feel vindicated.
Ps ive taken no offence at all, i knew some wouldn't believe it. All good
 
Mrs Butterface said:
Third hand hearsay is what got us the info last year that Justynn went apeshit in the Presidential Suite. Strongly denied by BB and Ch 9 at the time although now Nathan has confirmed he in fact did. It's also what got us the info that Nathan had quit the show. The two people involved are in the house so they obviously can't comment and since they've had no qualms about flatout lying to their supposed friends' faces about what happened in there, I wouldn't even believe what they said now anyway. So other than that we have only Ch 9/BB - who kept referencing the bath in their ads and articles on Jump-In - and people who have seen the footage. Noxious' friend claims to know what happened so unless they're proven wrong somehow, I'm not sure why it'd be surprising people are taking their account at face value.

Also Lawson admitted last night that they kissed. There is zero doubt about that now for those who kept trying to insist nothing happened.
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I can't comment on that as I was overseas last year & literally did not watch one episode of BB 2013.
What I will say is things get exaggerate BIG time. Look at the rumour that made the rounds week that Travis had been expelled from the house due to violence. Now that rumour clearly must've come from somebody within the BB camp (a BB/Ch.9 employee), now compare that to what actually happened. I think this is a similar scenario. Lawson probably ran his feet/toes up and down Cat's thigh & ass region & by the time that information got passed down like Chinese whispers it became "Lawson f*cked Cat with his toes".
You do raise a valid point by saying "Lawson admitted last night that they kissed" but wasn't he referring to the pash they had in the spa a few weeks ago? (they did have an awkward pash during a spin the bottle session a few weeks ago, did they not?). I tend to recall that they did and also Lawson said "we sorta kinda kissed" so I assume that is what he's referring to.
 
Noxious said:
I dont know, however, the HMs agree to be filmed and have that footage played to Australia. I would imagine that the footage belongs to channel 9 for them to do what they like with. They played pretty sexual stuff on uncut in the past, just now theres no timeslot or show for this to be shown on.
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What I was alluding to was that, wasnt you source, or the person that passed info onto your source, bound by any confidentiality clauses as regarding the leaking of anything that happened during filming?
 
OO_17 said:
I can't comment on that as I was overseas last year & literally did not watch one episode of BB 2013.
What I will say is things get exaggerate BIG time. Look at the rumour that made the rounds week that Travis had been expelled from the house due to violence. Now that rumour clearly must've come from somebody within the BB camp (a BB/Ch.9 employee), now compare that to what actually happened. I think this is a similar scenario. Lawson probably ran his feet/toes up and down Cat's thigh & ass region & by the time that information got passed down like Chinese whispers it became "Lawson f*cked Cat with his toes".
You do raise a valid point by saying "Lawson admitted last night that they kissed" but wasn't he referring to the pash they had in the spa a few weeks ago? (they did have an awkward pash during a spin the bottle session a few weeks ago, did they not?). I tend to recall that they did and also Lawson said "we sorta kinda kissed" so I assume that is what he's referring to.
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Lawson and Cat kissed in the Sanctuary.
 
tedfthis said:
What I was alluding to was that, wasnt you source, or the person that passed info onto your source, bound by any confidentiality clauses as regarding the leaking of anything that happened during filming?
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Not sure to be honest? I guess its either yes and someones stuffed up royally or, no?
Im not sure what their confidentiality agreement entails?
 
OO_17 said:
I can't comment on that as I was overseas last year & literally did not watch one episode of BB 2013.
What I will say is things get exaggerate BIG time. Look at the rumour that made the rounds week that Travis had been expelled from the house due to violence. Now that rumour clearly must've come from somebody within the BB camp (a BB/Ch.9 employee), now compare that to what actually happened. I think this is a similar scenario. Lawson probably ran his feet/toes up and down Cat's thigh & ass region & by the time that information got passed down like Chinese whispers it became "Lawson f*cked Cat with his toes".
You do raise a valid point by saying "Lawson admitted last night that they kissed" but wasn't he referring to the pash they had in the spa a few weeks ago? (they did have an awkward pash during a spin the bottle session a few weeks ago, did they not?). I tend to recall that they did and also Lawson said "we sorta kinda kissed" so I assume that is what he's referring to.
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I just rewatched it and he says "We've already sort of been there ummm throughhhhhh a mistake of my own so that would be Cat"

He's not talking about the quick peck they had in the spa in front of the other HMs

As for the Travis thing, we still don't know what really happened there. We heard Leo say "we've already had violence tonight" and then move the drinks away from the spa yet that didn't jive with the limited piece we saw.
 
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