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Big Brother back in 2025 on 10! AND LIVE!
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T.R.
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Probably just messing with you to keep you on your toes.Unless they were just testing the site for a casting call launch tomorrow? And more info will be given then? I'm so lost
I doubt it would cost that much. ITV now pay around Ā£10m for BBUK compared to the Ā£60m a year C4 paid at it's peak (think C5 was around Ā£30m). Unlike sports rights the fee would cover production too and with BB at it's peak the price was severely inflated due to it being an attractive property. Now producers have to beg networks to get it made.
At 4-5 weeks though this is dead on arrival. That's as bad as pre-recording it.
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4-5 weeks is better than nothing I guess. Still really disappointed. I hope this is due to the holdback. If 2026 isnāt at least 8 weeks then Iāll probably just give up on Australian television all together, I canāt see survivor lasting long now either.
BB12
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It is better than nothing, but they can't promote it as "bigger and better than ever before" because it simply won't be.
I am just telling my self this is a test run and if it does well they'll do a longer season next year. Maybe it's the best they could manage with the schedule for this year.
I assume this means we'll just get a studio-based set or something very temporary.
I assume this means we'll just get a studio-based set or something very temporary.
This makes sense. What a shame though we'll get a scaled down season though. Thanks a lot, Seven!
I really think if 10 would push it back to late January and go for broke that would be my preferred option.
35 days, sigh...
Just defer it until 2026. Fans have been waiting for years, what's another few months? I cannot fathom why 10 would want to waste the hype on an inadequate and rushed 2025 season.
Last year's announcement promo said BB was returning home where it belongs. One month in 10's schedule is not where Big Brother belongs, IMO. Certainly not a traditional series with new everyday housemates, at least. Celebrity, maybe.
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You are incorrect, 7 paid $20million for the season. IE full cost of the network was a budget of $20 million.
T.R.
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The thing is, even with the holdback, they are able to come up with something this year even if it is just for a month, so this makes me think this short run was always the plan. 10ās schedule this year is not chockablocked. As has been mentioned before, they basically only have āSurvivor Vs The Worldā and āAmazing Raceā to play out after āMasterChefā ends at the end of the month. Unless they painfully drag out those shows to 1 or 2 episodes a week, they will be finished by mid-October. They could have easily started BB mid-October and went through to mid-December to get 8 weeks. If they ended the first/second week of December, they could do at least 6 weeks, like the UK version. It is pretty poor imo if they canāt even manage 40+ days like the current UK run. 8 weeks would have been a decent first run back. It feels like something has changed at 10, and they are scaling everything back. 1 month of BB is very disappointing and lacks all the hype that was promised at the upfronts last year. What happened to going old school? 1 month is going to go so quickly. Blink and it will be gone. I donāt need to tell you guys that Big Brother is a format that needs time to play out. 8 weeks is shorter than in the old days, but still I feel that it would be a fair compromise to be able to have a decent season in this modern era.
If anyone reading who is from 10 and Endemol, would they be able to see where our concerns are coming from regarding the time-length?
At the end of the day, we all want Big Brother on 10 to be successful and a quality program.
If anyone reading who is from 10 and Endemol, would they be able to see where our concerns are coming from regarding the time-length?
At the end of the day, we all want Big Brother on 10 to be successful and a quality program.
Wouldn't even say it's better than nothing. No BB is better than a bad BB.
Just hold it back to 2026 - if it goes against MAFS so what, it'll still rate better than November. The news today suggests Survivor might be pushed back anyway.
Kingston
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Going up against MAFS could be beneficial especially if theyāre going back to the original, authentic, unfiltered, character driven format. BB is far better counter programming than Iām a Celebrity especially with the return of live feeds.
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Ehh, it's not automatically bad because it's short. A short, good BB is better than a long, bad BB! (And knowing how bad BBAU was for the "revolving door effect" when they started doing 100-day seasons, it might actually be a blessing...
)I've been doing more digging, CBBUK has done some comparably long seasons with up to 18 Housemates... Admittedly, CBB does always feel rushed, but 4 weeks is at least enough time to get to know everybody.
As long as it's a one-off because of the contracts, I'm OK with it.
For the record:
| Season | Days | Housemates |
|---|---|---|
| CBB5 | 26 | 14 |
| Celebrity Hijack | 26 | 12 |
| CBB7 | 27 | 12 |
| CBB13 | 27 | 12 |
| CBB14 | 26 | 14 |
| CBB15 | 31 | 15 |
| CBB16 | 29 | 15 |
| CBB16 | 32 | 16 |
| CBB18 | 30 | 15 |
| CBB19 | 32 | 18 |
| CBB20 | 25 | 15 |
| CBB21 | 32 | 16 |
| CBB22 | 26 | 13 |
Kingston
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You really canāt compare CBB to the civilian seriesā¦ Even if a ācelebrityā is unknown theyāre still coming in to the series with an established storyline.Ehh, it's not automatically bad because it's short. A short, good BB is better than a long, bad BB! (And knowing how bad BBAU was for the "revolving door effect" when they started doing 100-day seasons, it might actually be a blessing...
I've been doing more digging, CBBUK has done some comparably long seasons with up to 18 Housemates... Admittedly, CBB does always feel rushed, but 4 weeks is at least enough time to get to know everybody.
As long as it's a one-off because of the contracts, I'm OK with it.
For the record:
Season Days Housemates CBB5 26 14 Celebrity Hijack 26 12 CBB7 27 12 CBB13 27 12 CBB14 26 14 CBB15 31 15 CBB16 29 15 CBB16 32 16 CBB18 30 15 CBB19 32 18 CBB20 25 15 CBB21 32 16 CBB22 26 13
While I think your heart is in the right place in saying a short run shouldnāt automatically be assumed to be terrible but itās definitely not a positive. They only have one shot at a first impression and launching with a 4/5 week series isnāt giving the best impression.
Just like the JLP decision if it is about ratings dipping theyāre really shooting themselves in the foot trying to fix the one thing about the show that isnāt broken.
It would be one thing if 10 gave us a 10 week series and then decided to pull the reigns back for the second series but itās another thing entirely to launch yet another revival with assumptions about what modern audiences will or wonāt watch and if that is whatās happening here Brekkie is rightā¦ No BB is better than a show running with one arm tied behind its back.
Yes - Celeb BB has a pre-show narrative which enables them to fast forward things, plus it's also about expectation and the expectation is a 3-4 weeks series.
We know from the BBUK revival that 6 weeks is problematic and it's over just as it begins to get interesting. Of course there are things they can fix such as the pace of evictions and number of HMs, but if they do live nominations and a live eviction twice a week that doesn't really leave much tie for the regular daily show, which ultimately is the bread and butter of Big Brother, to air. It's also arguably more risky to air the show for 90-120 minutes four nights a week (plus an hour the other two nights) than to air it over 6-8 weeks.
The wording of 4-5 weeks to me suggests it will run basically 4 weeks and 2 days, with probably the launch pre-recorded the night before as was the standard throughout.
We know from the BBUK revival that 6 weeks is problematic and it's over just as it begins to get interesting. Of course there are things they can fix such as the pace of evictions and number of HMs, but if they do live nominations and a live eviction twice a week that doesn't really leave much tie for the regular daily show, which ultimately is the bread and butter of Big Brother, to air. It's also arguably more risky to air the show for 90-120 minutes four nights a week (plus an hour the other two nights) than to air it over 6-8 weeks.
The wording of 4-5 weeks to me suggests it will run basically 4 weeks and 2 days, with probably the launch pre-recorded the night before as was the standard throughout.
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No, of course not, it obviously sucks. I'm just saying, let's not fall into the trap of thinking Big Brother somehow "can't be done" in that short of a run.
I don't know about you, but I'm not a "pop culture" person. I don't know anything about the vast majority of celebrities that end up on CBB, so all I have to go on is their entry VT, just the same as a civilian series. Big Brother: Celebrity Hijack was also on my list, and did not have Celebrity Housemates ā it was a really good season, and felt rushed, and I wished it'd been longer, but I didn't struggle to get to know the Housemates just because I hadn't heard of them before.
I think people's Disappointment Level is maybe directly tied to their "willingness to believe the show length is a deliberate choice" Level? Does that sound right?
I may well have missed some insider info, but if not ā I'm still convinced this has somehow happened because of the holdbacks and contract issues. It just makes zero sense that they'd spend this much money and make such an obviously stupid mess of the scheduling. (I know BBAU has a track record for stupid decisions, so maybe I should know better lmao.
)(I don't think you're part of the "postpone it until next year if you can't do it justice this year" crowd, but let me just say: it should be pretty obvious that's a non-starter, especially with the TV industry in its current state.)
It is a deliberate choice - only Ten are to blame for that. "New" and returning shows get pushed back all the time due to various factors whether that's development delays or networks wanting to give a show the best chance possible, or just burn it off.
10 ditching The Project for more news is them admitting they need to target older audiences so not meeting the most basic expectations of legacy BBAU fans is an absolute failure.
10 ditching The Project for more news is them admitting they need to target older audiences so not meeting the most basic expectations of legacy BBAU fans is an absolute failure.
Kingston
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Given the JLP decision Iām less inclined to believe their hands were tied. Different show but itās the same people calling the shots. Iām also inclined to believe there would be nothing stopping them from simply delaying the series until 2026 if the hold back is really the issue. Iām sorry but Iām just not willing to make lemonade out of this lemonā¦No, of course not, it obviously sucks. I'm just saying, let's not fall into the trap of thinking Big Brother somehow "can't be done" in that short of a run.
I don't know about you, but I'm not a "pop culture" person. I don't know anything about the vast majority of celebrities that end up on CBB, so all I have to go on is their entry VT, just the same as a civilian series. Big Brother: Celebrity Hijack was also on my list, and did not have Celebrity Housemates ā it was a really good season, and felt rushed, and I wished it'd been longer, but I didn't struggle to get to know the Housemates just because I hadn't heard of them before.
I think people's Disappointment Level is maybe directly tied to their "willingness to believe the show length is a deliberate choice" Level? Does that sound right?
I may well have missed some insider info, but if not ā I'm still convinced this has somehow happened because of the holdbacks and contract issues. It just makes zero sense that they'd spend this much money and make such an obviously stupid mess of the scheduling. (I know BBAU has a track record for stupid decisions, so maybe I should know better lmao.
(I don't think you're part of the "postpone it until next year if you can't do it justice this year" crowd, but let me just say: it should be pretty obvious that's a non-starter, especially with the TV industry in its current state.)
BB12
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I just can't get my head around why overseas versions of most TV shows last a lot longer than Australian versions, particularly in the UK. It's almost like Australian TV network execs just see a slight dip in viewers and go "OFF WITH ITS HEAD!"
If they'd just look and see the viewers feedback on social media or sites like this, they'd discover what the issues are quite quickly, and make changes. But no, they just go "Oh well, we tried, let's cancel it."
An unrelated example (and probably not the best but I like the show lol) the UK version of Millionaire was on channel 7 for two weeks, and it was cancelled. Literally 2 episodes and they dropped it. Didn't even let it take its first breath and they put it down. Yet it's still airing in the UK and has been on and off since 1999. Same goes for BB, since 2000, obviously has been on and off, but it's still going now.
I just saw that Australian Idol is back for 2026 (for now lol) applications are open so I guess 7 have given that a go.
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I think Aussie TV severely lacks whatever factor overseas TV has and it annoys tf out of me.
If they'd just look and see the viewers feedback on social media or sites like this, they'd discover what the issues are quite quickly, and make changes. But no, they just go "Oh well, we tried, let's cancel it."
An unrelated example (and probably not the best but I like the show lol) the UK version of Millionaire was on channel 7 for two weeks, and it was cancelled. Literally 2 episodes and they dropped it. Didn't even let it take its first breath and they put it down. Yet it's still airing in the UK and has been on and off since 1999. Same goes for BB, since 2000, obviously has been on and off, but it's still going now.
I just saw that Australian Idol is back for 2026 (for now lol) applications are open so I guess 7 have given that a go.
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I think Aussie TV severely lacks whatever factor overseas TV has and it annoys tf out of me.
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