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BBUK returns Sun 8 Oct 2023 (and Celeb BB back in 2024)

There is a very clear divide between those of us from the C4 era and those who only knew the C5 era. All it needed was clarification before nominations happened - whether to us as viewers or to the housemates just before nominations on how many would be up as there is absolutely no need to spin this as a surprise double considering there are so many housemates and just two left.

P.S. Tim has nailed it!
 
I’m suddenly losing interest in this series… IDK there’s just something about how 2D it’s become and seeing production squander the potential this series has had. We’re two weeks away from the finale and it doesn’t and I don’t even feel like this series has properly started yet.
 
Kingston said:
I’m suddenly losing interest in this series… IDK there’s just something about how 2D it’s become and seeing production squander the potential this series has had. We’re two weeks away from the finale and it doesn’t and I don’t even feel like this series has properly started yet.
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It really hasn’t lived up to the potential. There is minor fixes that could have prevented such. But the episodes feel very gimmicky as of late.
 
Zcsund1234 said:
It really hasn’t lived up to the potential. There is minor fixes that could have prevented such. But the episodes feel very gimmicky as of late.
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Overall even with C5’s meddling BB19 was a superior series. It will be interesting to see where ITV go with future series… I’d say they definitely need to consider extending the series to at least 8 if not 10 weeks, make improvements in casting (They need to find a happy medium between the C4 era freak show and the current more grounded casting), and incorporate more fun and competitive elements in to the format. Not building on BB19’s BigCoin twist was a huge missed opportunity with this series.

As for story telling it’s become pretty basic. The main point of tension has been food and bedroom noise. The only other story element that has gained traction has been the Henry - Jordan - Matty love triangle and even that is becoming increasingly stale.
 
I do think the casting is pretty good - they're just not getting the most out of them. 8 weeks would work, even with 16 housemates - a couple of double evictions along the way, a surprise eviction (live, not overnight) and an additional double eviction in the final week gets us down to 4 for the final.

For me it needed a couple of new hooks. I do understand why they started with a clean slate, so picking up the Big Coin idea 5 years on wouldn't have been wise. I've said it before but one thing which really worked for Nine was the nominations superpower - gives you a simple twist every week and would give them the chance to do a weekend task with purpose. There are then multiple things you can do with it, but honesty is crucial so viewers need to know upfront what the power is - so either as the US did release details of them all at the beginning or perhaps have a poll each week where viewers pick between two powers.

The other thing I don't think works now is the weekly task - just no jeopardy in it. Therefore although I'd keep the structure of the weekly task I'd make it a Have/Have Not task. Repurpose the bedroom and bathroom so the bedroom becomes a luxury bedroom with luxury en-suite then the bathroom becomes a Have Not room with not so luxur en-suite.


These are both quite simple, unoriginal, twists - but something I think would really work with BBUK at the moment and just lift it a bit from just being a bog standard series without compromising the more back to basics approach.
 
Brekkie said:
I do think the casting is pretty good - they're just not getting the most out of them. 8 weeks would work, even with 16 housemates - a couple of double evictions along the way, a surprise eviction (live, not overnight) and an additional double eviction in the final week gets us down to 4 for the final.

For me it needed a couple of new hooks. I do understand why they started with a clean slate, so picking up the Big Coin idea 5 years on wouldn't have been wise. I've said it before but one thing which really worked for Nine was the nominations superpower - gives you a simple twist every week and would give them the chance to do a weekend task with purpose. There are then multiple things you can do with it, but honesty is crucial so viewers need to know upfront what the power is - so either as the US did release details of them all at the beginning or perhaps have a poll each week where viewers pick between two powers.

The other thing I don't think works now is the weekly task - just no jeopardy in it. Therefore although I'd keep the structure of the weekly task I'd make it a Have/Have Not task. Repurpose the bedroom and bathroom so the bedroom becomes a luxury bedroom with luxury en-suite then the bathroom becomes a Have Not room with not so luxur en-suite.


These are both quite simple, unoriginal, twists - but something I think would really work with BBUK at the moment and just lift it a bit from just being a bog standard series without compromising the more back to basics approach.
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Not saying casting has been terrible but that this cast hasn’t been able to carry this series in the way I would have hoped.

I also wasn’t saying that the show needed to pick up the BigCoin twist 5 years later but the general idea of having a “game within a game” is something they could have continued. Whether that be the nomination superpower or some other gamified element would have definitely added something to this series.

As for the shopping task I’m really not sure that needs to change other than I think they just need some better tasks. There’s been no risk/reward because they’ve all be designed to simply 2 days worth of storyline than to be something the HM’s need much skill or determination to actually successfully complete.
 
I’ve personally always wanted to see the housemates have different prize money totals at the end. Whether it be through competitions, or a strategic type of game, I’d like to see more stakes put into individual performance.
 
Zcsund1234 said:
I’ve personally always wanted to see the housemates have different prize money totals at the end. Whether it be through competitions, or a strategic type of game, I’d like to see more stakes put into individual performance.
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I don’t know how well that would actually work in the end but I wouldn’t have minded having the house need to add to a collective pot to earn the prize money for the series.

For me this series has been somewhat disappointing as there just hasn’t been enough to actually refresh the format. The only refreshed elements have been the house and the BB voice. The new house has been a welcome change but the change in the voice hasn’t added anything beyond make the show feel like it’s intended for primary school kids. There hasn’t been anything they could build on. They’ve done a decent job of bringing the show in to a new era visually but not much else has changed.
 
Some form of nominations power or a veto would have sufficed for me. Or even a head of house type thing where someone gets a private room and can invite a guest.
 
Zcsund1234 said:
Some form of nominations power or a veto would have sufficed for me. Or even a head of house type thing where someone gets a private room and can invite a guest.
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Given the short length of this series I would have been happy with HM’s nominating with points and something as simple as the three point nominations twist. That could then be expanded in future series to the superpower or some other variant. It’s not super game changing but at least would have shown that they had thought of ways to refresh such a core element of the show and is something that would be built on as this new era continues.
 
I think in light of the mistreatment of the Australian version on Ch9, I think the 5 point nomination allocation was something they did well. I also did always enjoy the three point twist, largely because we had no idea if it would even impact anything. It was a simple but yet effective twist that didn't drastically change the game.

All in all, the series needs to go for longer than 6 weeks. I always find BB seasons, regardess of format, to be the most enjoyable during the middle of the series. Weeks 5-9 always seem like the narratives are more solidified and the housemates have become very comfortable with each other. And also there is still a decent amount of people left to prevent the narrative either being lopsided or becoming stale.
 
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Yes. Given how Henry, Jordan and Matty is playing out having them know they're potentially in there another two months would really add to that storyline. WIth it only being another two weeks it'll likely mean the series concludes without that story really reaching it's climax.
 
Looks like there was a big argument with Trish and Paul that took place today, where she repeatedly called him a bully. BB Late and Live cancelled their plans to go into the camera run due to the fight and the live feed was cut for pretty much the entire night.

Some are even saying that maybe Noky had enough of Paul and walked from the house and that's what the argument was about.

God I hope both Dylan and Paul are out on Friday 🤞
 
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Not a surprise that Paul acted like a disgusting person once again, don't know what his problem with Noky is.....
 

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Although it was really nothing - certainly not something to silence the feeds for the three hours they were on air - and once again producers left a void for misinformation to spread rather than used the feeds to provide clarity. Not much point censoring them for the benefit of the main show if they release a transcript hours early.


Yes, Paul was being a dick as Paul often is - but ultimately this wasn't bullying or a big fight - it was just one person threatening to pour a couple of drinks down the sink.


Paul does need to go tonight as otherwise it looks like viewers condone his generally dickishness - but I'd personally rather Trish out than Dylan at this point in time. Indeed I'd quite like Trish to go out first so that little clique think they've won and have the viewers behind them - only for Paul to be chucked out minutes later! (It would feel cruel the other way!)
 
BB Sorter not updated the evictees this week but excluding them this is how my pre-eviction rankings work out:

1. Noky
2. Chanelle
3. Jordan
4. Yinrun
5. Tom
6. Matty
7. Henry
8. Dylan
9. Trish
10. Olivia
11. Paul
12. Jenkin
 
Brekkie said:
Although it was really nothing - certainly not something to silence the feeds for the three hours they were on air - and once again producers left a void for misinformation to spread rather than used the feeds to provide clarity. Not much point censoring them for the benefit of the main show if they release a transcript hours early.


Yes, Paul was being a dick as Paul often is - but ultimately this wasn't bullying or a big fight - it was just one person threatening to pour a couple of drinks down the sink.


Paul does need to go tonight as otherwise it looks like viewers condone his generally dickishness - but I'd personally rather Trish out than Dylan at this point in time. Indeed I'd quite like Trish to go out first so that little clique think they've won and have the viewers behind them - only for Paul to be chucked out minutes later! (It would feel cruel the other way!)
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Personally I love Trish, she is one of my favourites in there and will back her all the way. I see nothing that she has done wrong except defend herself and other people when needed.

And Paul's singling out of Noky again and again is coming dangerously close to bullying IMO... The divide in that house has been created by the Paul, Olivia and Tom group and one of them going will help relieve some of the tension in that house.
 
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Paul going should be good for Olivia and Tom. He brings them both down.

I don't dislike Trish - I'm just tired of her now. For me a triple would be ideal tonight with Noky staying - that would move the show on nicely for the next week.
 
Brekkie said:
Paul going should be good for Olivia and Tom. He brings them both down.

I don't dislike Trish - I'm just tired of her now. For me a triple would be ideal tonight with Noky staying - that would move the show on nicely for the next week.
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Fair enough, can't disagree there.

I think Dylan is going tonight for sure and with the show airing on ITV1 as well today and having exposure to a larger audience, probably Paul after his actions are shown in this episode.
 
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