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A CHALLENGE to Prisus Haters

This will be my last reply to you, especially because you show callous disregard for what people write, bordering on belligerency.

Evidently, someone could say everything is subjective. My point is that if you provide evidence, contrast it to other housemates and have logical analysis then it's the closest possible to objective. Note my use of the word "relatively".

I find it amusing that you have called my post condescending and arrogant, when the tone you adopt is exactly that and unjustifiably didactic.

At no point did I say her actions are moralistic, but they are not a reason to single her out for hate. Please refer to all my posts, read them carefully.

You have remained unable for the most part to present an argument that (in lieu of belligerently attacking what I say) refutes it through examples of evidence, contrasting this with other housemates.

LET ME BE CLEAR. This thread seeks to dismiss people who single her out for hate. It also welcomes people who single her out but can then justify it. I can think of a few examples for justifying such hate, but my contention is that most people who express this cannot back it up.

Perhaps you have done so, thank you for your contribution

WTF? Asking people to give empirically based reasoning in regards to preferences in house mates......would you like me to run through my empirical reasoning as to why I prefer vegemite over jam???.....:vomit:

Your argument is about as scientifically sound as two bob watch......redundant.....at a stretch.....:poop:

And further, I don't "justify" anything to anyone but my mother.......:stop:
 
WTF? Asking people to give empirically based reasoning in regards to preferences in house mates......would you like me to run through my empirical reasoning as to why I prefer vegemite over jam???.....:vomit:

Your argument is about as scientifically sound as two bob watch......redundant.....at a stretch.....:poop:

And further, I don't "justify" anything to anyone but my mother.......:stop:

Perhaps instead of being overtly cynical you could contribute?

Any opinion on a housemate is going to be empirical, formed from sensory experience (i.e. using your eyes). Reducing an argument to that of a daily food choice might make a nice little point, but it doesn't really work when the two things are totally different. I've just asked for people to give a more extended reason, backing it up from their own observations (which could easily be different to mine) and then back their opinion up through these observations and comparisons with other housemates. If you don't like vegemite, why and what is different to it than jam that makes you not like it? To borrow your minimalistic analogy.

I never said it was scientific. I said it was reasoned and critically evaluated. The evolution of human beings has multiple reasoned and critically evaluated, yet conflicting, opinions (albeit that circumstance happens to be scientific). If you actually want to read through the whole thread instead of focusing on one post, you'll see how a few people have actually given some really good examples of this. That was all that was asked. Thanks for having a go at me though :)

And I actually enjoyed your last line. I didn't say you had to contribute though, so you didn't have to. It was up to you.
 
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We crap on about her intelligence because she’s demonstrated it to us. Tim never even completed his degree, but that still didn’t stop me from being able to see that he was by far the smartest contestant of last series. A person’s education can only tell you so much about their overall intelligence. It’s OK if you don’t feel she is as intelligent as people say she is, but I think it is unfair of you to try and dismiss her intelligence based purely on where she chose to go to school and her chosen vocation and I don’t think it’s fair to assume that she just wasn’t “good enough” simply because she found a way to gain the equivalent accreditation necessary at a less reputable institution, then used that to gain entry elsewhere. You’re making a lot of assumptions based on this and it comes across as a bit elitist, even though that may not be your intent. University courses are expensive – and Priya herself has admitted that she has struggled financially in the past. There is no shame in going to somewhere such as a “community college” to complete the equivalent coursework to save money, then transferring those credits in order to take up further study at a university. Just because she didn’t study something “respectable” like Law, that in no way is a measure of her competence, how much effort she has put in or how intelligent she is. She is clearly an educated person, by any Australian standard. You say she doesn’t even have “street smarts”, yet I can see an incredibly savvy and perceptive woman with a great deal of common sense, as opposed to the oh so intelligent sCat, who still somehow managed to screw up the relatively simple task of maintaining a good reputation and some semblance of dignity on national television.





That’s true, though I think Priya has an amazing presence, and I am always interested in hearing her thoughts and perceptions on what’s going on inside the house. She might not be as “in your face” as the other housemates, but it’s clear that she serves an important role in that house. She doesn’t need to rap, shout, scream or stick another man’s toes in her vagina to make her presence felt. Even in silence, the blessed mother exudes a dignified aura of splendour and majesty. In spite of the limited footage we get fed by Channel 9, she’s still been a major focus these past two weeks, and she is always slaying social media. To paraphrase her own words, her presence is felt, and her absence even moreso. Not everybody might feel it, and that’s OK, but there are plenty of us who do.






Perhaps it’s just my inner cynic shining through, but I think it’s pretty obvious that a large percentage of people in this country hold racist attitudes. Whether we like it or not, we have a reputation internationally for being racist. Racism, sexism and anti-intellectualism are all pervasive in our society, and many of the things I've seen happen in this country over the past few years tell me this. Yes, it’s a blanket statement, and obviously a great number of people in this country are good, decent, caring people, such as yourself – I do apologize if anybody is offended by that, but I think most people will see that I wasn’t referring to them. There are good stereotypes and there are bad stereotypes – the racist Australian is one of our bad ones, but stereotypes do often hold some degree of truth. And yes, I believe that the perception and attitude of people in Australia to the boat people is VERY relevant to a discussion on racist attitudes in Australia, because it provides a contemporary example of these attitudes at play. Priya doesn’t have to be a boat person for it to be relevant to the point that I was making about racism in Australia. You’re absolutely right that anybody who is not indigenous could be considered a “foreigner” in this country, yet even aboriginal people are still too often the target of racist remarks and attitudes from certain people, even though they are the ones who were here first. Unfortunately, as you say bigotry is rife in any country, but it becomes a HUGE issue in a multicultural society such as ours to the point that it shows up in even something as relatively innocuous as a reality television show.





Of course she and Tim are not the same person, but I do see similarities in terms of their perceptiveness of other people, their drive and their individualist mentality. Tim played the game completely different to the way Priya is doing it – it’s going to be hard for anybody to top the way he played it last series and Priya is perceptive enough to realise that she won’t have the same broad appeal that Tim did, so she can’t afford to be as reckless or have such an all or nothing mentality as he did. Even though Tim claims he knew he would win after Ben was evicted, he never really knew until he had taken the show out, and had Jade received 2% more of the vote, he wouldn't have. Priya knows she can win it, but she also is perceptive enough to realise that there’s only so much within her power that she can do to achieve that. Why not have some guaranteed rewards along the way? Not everybody has the same end goal. Tim wanted the crown, he wanted the glory. Priya wants “whatever she can get”, and whether that means the win, or just some attention to feed her ego, a bit of cash and some life experience – who cares, she’ll take it.




That’s probably true, regarding Priya using BB to test out her social intelligence. I do understand the difference between book smarts and street smarts, but I don’t think intelligence can or should be categorized so broadly, nor do people have to fit into any one category.
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I appreciate you taking the time to reply to mine too, Kismet. Discussions like these are part of what makes these forums interesting for me, and I hope you haven’t taken anything I have stated personally, as I really do not mean to offend, or to make offensive generalizations. We see different things in different people, and that’s not a bad thing. Like I said, once this season is over, we won’t care too much one way or another… if it weren’t for Priya, I probably wouldn’t care at all. It hasn’t been the best of seasons for me – supporting Priya is one of the few ways I’ve been able to engage with this series.

Flaw free xo
 
lol I just can't wait to hear what @MADONNA & @Lightning McQueen have to say when Priya gets evicted before Cat.
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The way she talks down to people
The way she thinks she is more intelligent than others
The way she repeats the point she is trying to make so she looks like she is more intelligent than others.
The ways she narates what she is doing when there is no real need.

She just rubs me the wrong way, mostly how she talks to everyone like she is the only one who understands anything.
I think that Cat is pretty articulate and intelligent, same with Ryan and Lawson and Dion, I think Sandra was pretty intelligent. I think David is probably the most intelligent.
If Priya is going to spend her time with Syke and Aisha, then yeah..............she is going to look like a Rhodes Scholar!
I think all of her talk about strategy and analysing people and being quiet is a defence because she doesn't feel like she fits in and is intimidated by the stronger personalities such as Ryan and Lawson.
That thing the other night, how patronising she was to the three guys really got to me. She could have addressed it while it was happening.

She isn't intelligent.
She isn't manipulative as she isn't really intelligent enough
She is just annoying, patronising and has a massive superiority complex.
To be fair, it may be a result of being a teacher but she just annoys me.

Everyone is different but, I would be really unhappy if she won[/QUOTE]
 
@Mercy ..

Just letting you know I am working on a reply to your post. I hope to have it completed and posted by midday QLD time today.

Apologies for the delay, but as you wrote a thought out reply, you deserve the same in return.

This tennis match is enjoyable to say the least

Priya is too deep and complex a person for the viewing audience as a whole to fully appreciate, understand or elevate to victory

She is limited in the house as to what she can offer; she is married so no romance. She is a teacher so no swearing or tantrums. She is an intellectual so no pointless spats. She is a prude so no skimpy seductive clothes or nudity

Very closed person for the average voting punter who thrives on warts n all characters
 
This tennis match is enjoyable to say the least

Priya is too deep and complex a person for the viewing audience as a whole to fully appreciate, understand or elevate to victory

She is limited in the house as to what she can offer; she is married so no romance. She is a teacher so no swearing or tantrums. She is an intellectual so no pointless spats. She is a prude so no skimpy seductive clothes or nudity

Very closed person for the average voting punter who thrives on warts n all characters

Unfortunately based on what her husband has told us, much of her humour would go straight the way of Ryan's et al in that it's adult rated and therefore not suitable for a PG show, just like Dion said.

I agree too that she is limited ie no showmance as she isn't cheating scum

How she's made it for two months being up every week except for two and one of those she had immunity is beyond me

Every fricken week but two

She should've went the way of Sharon last year

even moreso because she supposedly sucked Katie into taking money that Katie later admitted she wanted to take anyway

really should've been voted the least saved the first time she was up alone since Katie was.... kind sweet Katie who Priya held a gun to her head to take the cash... I suspect Katie will be buying Priya many a drink when she gets out as a thank you because if Priya hadn't held that gun to her head, Katie would've had nothing

married, brown, non Aussie born, accent, not a show pony, brown, brown, brown, non Aussie born, married, OLD, stupid, dodgy education, lied to get a teaching job in oh so prestigious Australia, brown, brown, OLD

every day she's in there from like the 2nd week is a Priyacle
 
Unfortunately based on what her husband has told us, much of her humour would go straight the way of Ryan's et al in that it's adult rated and therefore not suitable for a PG show, just like Dion said.

I agree too that she is limited ie no showmance as she isn't cheating scum

How she's made it for two months being up every week except for two and one of those she had immunity is beyond me

Every fricken week but two

She should've went the way of Sharon last year

even moreso because she supposedly sucked Katie into taking money that Katie later admitted she wanted to take anyway

really should've been voted the least saved the first time she was up alone since Katie was.... kind sweet Katie who Priya held a gun to her head to take the cash... I suspect Katie will be buying Priya many a drink when she gets out as a thank you because if Priya hadn't held that gun to her head, Katie would've had nothing

married, brown, non Aussie born, accent, not a show pony, brown, brown, brown, non Aussie born, married, OLD, stupid, dodgy education, lied to get a teaching job in oh so prestigious Australia, brown, brown, OLD

every day she's in there from like the 2nd week is a Priyacle


And the cheek she displayed when BB asked her if she would leave the house for $20,000 cash

"Not for 20,000 BB, i need five times that amount to think of doing that"

Please finish runner-up at Finale

Please
 
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