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Kingston said:
Production planner does not warrant 12 months. Nominations and evictions are built in to the format it’s ridiculous to suggest they require 12 months to make happen.

The original BBAU house was built from scratch in 10 weeks. Planning permissions, design, etc may add some additional time, however all of that, including the build can completed as other pre-production work is completed. Consider that in the past work in the house has been completed up to the last moment before HM’s have entered. Your suggestion of a 6 month timeframe is arbitrary. Testing etc is simply part of the process and at this point enough houses have been built and equipment streamlined that it can simply be baked in to the build. Also consider working within an existing stage/structure would significantly reduce if not completely eliminate the need for planning permissions altogether.

As for casting the timelines you’re providing are once again arbitrary. Considering in the modern era most people cast on reality TV are cast out of a pool, some having not even auditioned for the show they’ve been cast on, if not outright recruited it’s ridiculous to suggest they don’t have ways of streamlining the process and/or working with a quick turnaround.

Any other grunt work/funding/pre-production etc can be done simultaneously and wouldn’t add additional time requirements to the launch process. It’s not as if 10/ESA don’t already have existing relationships they could leverage that would help simplify and streamline the process. 10 wouldn’t have made the decision to pick up the show if they thought funding/sponsorships were going to be an issue.
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Ok let’s go back to when channel 9 got the rights back in 2011…
° They signed the contract in September.
° February they announced dreamworld was the home of BB again.
° I believe they did precasting announcements in September 2011 or that year anyway.
° March they did an auditions and didn’t finish until may (20k applications).
° August 4th housemates went into lockdown.
° August 13th was launch day.

So for that reboot of bb, it took what… 10 months…

So they had 7 months to plan/build the house (I can’t remember if they started building the house before of after the announcement)
 
The holdback clause is def holding them back, otherwise they would’ve done pre-casting announcements in September or October..
 
BBAU25 said:
Ok let’s go back to when channel 9 got the rights back in 2011…
° They signed the contract in September.
° February they announced dreamworld was the home of BB again.
° I believe they did precasting announcements in September 2011 or that year anyway.
° March they did an auditions and didn’t finish until may (20k applications).
° August 4th housemates went into lockdown.
° August 13th was launch day.

So for that reboot of bb, it took what… 10 months…

So they had 7 months to plan/build the house (I can’t remember if they started building the house before of after the announcement)
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It didn’t “take” 10 months… Nine gave themselves that time.
 
BBAU25 said:
10 has paid over $20 million for the rights of BB, they aren’t going to rush it and make it flop! They’re listening to the hardcore bb fans and they know what to expect with the original format, they know it’s not a quick turnaround.. They literally signed the contract with ESA 2 days before the upfront and Mel only found out within a day she was hosting the show..
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What’s to rush if their intentions are to listen to hardcore BB fans and know what to expect from the original format?
 
I have been biting my tongue trying not to state what I thought was obvious be here is my two cents worth - Of course Channel Ten is already planning and prepping stuff behind the scenes. They have already told us that it is 24/7 and they have hired a host, that means we have some evidence they have done some planning and prepping. They will do what they can to get all their ducks in a row to get moving on things as soon as the contract expires. They are not going to be doing nothing until that time - that is piss poor project management.
 
Isee said:
Of course Channel Ten is already planning and prepping stuff behind the scenes.
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Yeah I mentioned that possibility here:
timmy said:
How could 10 possibly get a Q4 season to air if they abide by the hold back and can only actually start doing anything from mid-2025? The answer is they'd either need to do it on the sly (unlikely they would get away with that) or negotiate a deal with Seven to get the rights released.
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They're probably chipping away as much as they can on the sly while they work out a deal with Seven.
 
I mostly look at it the same as well. TEN seem to really just don’t give a fuck about what seven has to say at all. Even since the news of the letter came out they still openly discussed it on broadcast with Mel on HYBPA.

I feel like TEN know what they’re doing and it’s just a matter of when they reach a deal to take care of the holdback. I personally just don’t think there’s too much else to really deep dive into.
 
BBAU25 said:
10 has paid over $20 million for the rights of BB, they aren’t going to rush it and make it flop! They’re listening to the hardcore bb fans and they know what to expect with the original format, they know it’s not a quick turnaround..
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I'm not saying that 10 is going to rush it. I was saying that you can get the show on air within 3 months if you wanted to. Besides, none of the European versions that got the show on air within 3 months were a flop.

I would believe that they will aim for Q4 launch and stick to it until they realise that they won't make it or won't be satisfied with the results. Then they'll push it back. But for now, I would assume that they still work towards a Q4 launch.

Kingston said:
The original BBAU house was built from scratch in 10 weeks. Planning permissions, design, etc may add some additional time, however all of that, including the build can completed as other pre-production work is completed. Consider that in the past work in the house has been completed up to the last moment before HM’s have entered.
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I've looked it up out of interest (not that you can care preparation for that season with any other season): The village for Germany's sixth season was built within 3 months.. and that's been multiple houses and workplaces.
 
Pretty sure the original BBUK house was built in 8 weeks, but the original 'container" type houses were designed to be built quickly. The new BB3 house was done in 4 months at most and the sound stage house now used by ITV can be constructed in about six weeks.

Obviously with people living in these they have to be built to a certain standard but ultimately even "purpose built" BB houses are just a TV sets built in a big empty space. The industry is very used to building and rebuilding sets super quickly.
 
Talking about TV sets: It doesn't even have to be a purpose built house or TV set. There are not many examples but Endemol has a bit of experience with doing Big Brother inside an actual house. You don't get two-way mirrors that the Australian producers still love but otherwise, you could still make it feel like a Big Brother house.

Endemol hyped it up when they've used a real house for the first time, but I don't think it's their preferred way to produce the season. And I don't expect 10 to go down that route either. I don't even know if there'd be a suitable place in Australia.

Another option that was done before: They could just do in an existing house in another country. They have experience with that, too, but that's even less likely than turning an existing place into the Big Brother house.
 
Yes - pre-covid fitting out existing houses seemed to be the model they were going for, something Love Island basically do, but as you say they seemed to have moved away from that.

A foreign house could have worked for 7 but an absolute non-starter for the direction Channel 10 want to go - the live eviction crowds will be critical to recapturing that old school BB atmosphere.
 
I always find Kingston to be incredibly rude and abrupt on this site. Comes across incredibly self righteous and arrogant… slightly odd.
 
Gayspie said:
check the forum FAQ, your name is mentioned there! ;)
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Written well over a decade ago and a lot has changed since then. Also IIRC it was a lighthearted jab.

settledown said:
I always find Kingston to be incredibly rude and abrupt on this site. Comes across incredibly self righteous and arrogant… slightly odd.
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Your opinion of me is noted 🙄. That said this isn’t I hate Kingston hour… Now back in line 👹.
 
beardymac said:
I don't think the holdback would delay the show significantly. Given that Endemol are effectively subcontracted by Ten to produce the show, a lot of necessary people would be in place (or could be shuffled in) for production, house design, casting producers, camera operators, etc. If Endemol have confidence that the show will be contracted for a certain number of years, they could already be location scouting.

The only thing that would really have to be delayed is the launch/announcement of casting. If they did open calls, they could theoretically book locations with an embargo on an announcement/advertising. The Ten casting process used to be about 4 months long and there's nothing to say that couldn't be expedited if needed. A holdback until mid year, plus a 4 month casting process could still put us in an October launch
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From what i understand, Endemol has granted Channel 7 the rights to both broadcast Big Brother now, and renew said rights going forward, until the holdback date, after which point the rights to our beloved reality TV franchise are up for grabs by another network such as Channel 10.

To borrow a holdback example from my autism social group (C7 Big Brother), the local council (Endemol) has granted us exclusive rights to both occupy their building for this year and renew said lease for their building next year (Broadcast BB), until a defined date (Holdback), at which point those two rights are open for a competitor community group to potentially come in and occupy their building and renew said lease (Endemol giving C10 BB rights).

Therefore, any said competitor community group (or rival TV network) could still prepare for occupying the council building (or broadcasting BB) before the defined date (holdback), operating on the assumption that the incumbent holder of the lease (or broadcast rights to BB) will not renew it, however until the defined date (holdback) has been reached said competitor community group (or TV network) could not actually use the council building (or broadcast BB) or advertise they are going to host events in council building (or promote their BB broadcast), or else this would be trespassing (or copyright violations) in the case of the former or false advertising in the case of the latter, however if incumbent lease holder (or broadcast rights holder) decided to renew their lease (or broadcast rights) before the defined date (holdback) then said competitor group (or rival TV network) may have wasted time/money.
 
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