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The Plebiscite for Marriage Equality

I don't use Facebook and I am glad as I went on today and saw such hateful comments on news stories. Also lots of lovely supportive ones but so much hate!

It's going to get passed eventually right? Like sometime in the future we will eventually catch up with the rest of the western world, why not do it now?

Literally all it is is changing the marriage act, I think the no voters are confused about this fact.
 
Got my survey today.
It says don't put anything else in the envelope.
I had intended to put a letter in with my feelings and opinions about get this shit sorted you wankers.
I guess they would just chuck it if it doesn't break rules......what about some glitter and sparkles?
 
jessy_girl said:
I think the no voters are confused about this fact
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They are not actually confused, but they are conflating marriage with a bunch of issues that not related in order to scare people into voting No. So I think the No voters choose to believe these things because it helps them to justify their vote in their mind. Think Tony Abbott: "...if you believe in freedom of speech, vote no" - um, WTAF? So some people will vote No simply because they disapprove of LGBTI but will say they are voting no because they care about freedom of speech.
 
jessy_girl said:
Literally all it is is changing the marriage act, I think the no voters are confused about this fact.
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I think this too. "All" it will change is the legality of people in an existing relationship being allowed to get married, but a lot of "no" voters seem to associate it with images of all their children and half the population suddenly turning gay and wanting to marry everyone. Possibly it hasn't been explained in simple enough terms for the layman to understand.
 
timmydownawell said:
They are not actually confused, but they are conflating marriage with a bunch of issues that not related in order to scare people into voting No. So I think the No voters choose to believe these things because it helps them to justify their vote in their mind. Think Tony Abbott: "...if you believe in freedom of speech, vote no" - um, WTAF? So some people will vote No simply because they disapprove of LGBTI but will say they are voting no because they care about freedom of speech.
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Yeah sadly you are right, genuine confusion would be better than just thinly veiled bigotry.

Freedom of speech actually makes zero sense. You could just as easily vote Yes under the same guise. But yep, any excuse. I'm yet to hear a sound social justification for taking the effort to vote no.
 
timmydownawell said:
Don't do it. Don't do anything that could cause confusion or otherwise invalidate your vote. What would it achieve anyway? It'll just slow down the process of opening and counting the votes, and at worst, cancel your vote.
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Yeah not seriously going to risk it.
But I may send a separate letter to the address
 
Meglos said:
I think this too. "All" it will change is the legality of people in an existing relationship being allowed to get married, but a lot of "no" voters seem to associate it with images of all their children and half the population suddenly turning gay and wanting to marry everyone. Possibly it hasn't been explained in simple enough terms for the layman to understand.
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Yes totally, not sure if it's ignorance or being close minded or just straight out being hate filled but there are misconceptions for sure. It genuinely doesn't affect people's lives unless they are gay or have a close friend or relative who is.
 
If this was a plebescite about Japanese Muslims wanting to build a Mosque in place of a casino then the elderly would probably be out protesting with their pitchforks and wheelie walkers.
 
Facebook has been like a bullhorn for the no voters to spread their misinformation and hatred onto the public.
 
jessy_girl said:
Yes totally, not sure if it's ignorance or being close minded or just straight out being hate filled but there are misconceptions for sure. It genuinely doesn't affect people's lives unless they are gay or have a close friend or relative who is.
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Yes and if they have a relative or close friend who is gay, surely they want them to be happy, and surely that (should) override any feeling that "it's not right"? And if they don't know anyone who is gay, do they not have any empathy for those who do? You don't have to know someone in a particular situation to empathise with them and want them to have a good life.
 
Meglos said:
Yes and if they have a relative or close friend who is gay, surely they want them to be happy, and surely that (should) override any feeling that "it's not right"? And if they don't know anyone who is gay, do they not have any empathy for those who do? You don't have to know someone in a particular situation to empathise with them and want them to have a good life.
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Yes exactly. Majority of people know a gay person but even if they don't it's not hard to just ask what is right. And since it has no bearing on their lives if not, why vote No?

I guess the flip side to the people who use the ignorant "slippery slope" argument are those who try and say that it's just a piece of paper and it doesn't matter. Aside from that not being true, it's so much more than that.

I fully respect that people are entitled to their opinion but it's hard to respect that particular opinion.
 
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