Miranda MC
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she was quite nasty, wasnt she. she and katie, 2 peas in a pod. although she is so much bitchier
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she was quite nasty, wasnt she. she and katie, 2 peas in a pod. although she is so much bitchier
Miranda MC
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i thought from the beginning, i mean in the pool, david said her physique, someone pipped up implying boobs, but david quickly denied, saying no, just upper body, midriff. he didnt say he loved her boobs then turned around said otherwise. she was the one persistently thinking david lied about loving her boobs. maybe BB cut some footage out? gawd, so wish to see the whole convo in the pool without editing!
but going by the current editing, i dont see why he should apologise for her own enlarged ego.
but going by the current editing, i dont see why he should apologise for her own enlarged ego.
It was Lisa who said he meant her boobs in the pool.
I've transcribed what we've been shown of the whole saga in the 'Was David right or wrong?' thread.
This!!!!!!! Holy guacamole I can't stand it! I don't understand what makes anyone think they are superior to others in this kind of situation or have any right to dictate who's "worthy" of being included in the "group". It's so completely high school and nasty. Nobody at any age likes to feel excluded or like they don't belong.
100% and her treatment of Mikkayla was one of the examples I was thinking of. Mikkayla didn't really start to turn into a bitch until way, way after Tully was initially horrible to her anyway. That was also back when we had a LF so we had a fair idea what was really going on and while Mikkayla was trying to connect with her Tully just wouldn't have a bar of it and made Mikkayla extremely aware that she wasn't a part of their "half-way house group".
Funny part is that even though I wasn't a huge fan of Mikkayla's personality I started feeling sympathy for her due to the way she was getting treated (not just by Tully but Heidi, Ed, Matt, etc as well). I'm finding the same thing happening with Gemma after last night's ep. I find her personality pretty damn unattractive but I'm also feeling sympathy for her now after Lisa's Mean Girls antics.
Exactly. I thought it was pretty obvious that David was referring to her waist etc, but if he said he'd take her upper body but then say Cat's boobs that would be incredibly insulting. I actually felt pretty sorry for David. BB orchestrated those questions for the boys, and while Travis actually said that they were "saggy" (the more insulting thing to say) David was the only one to cop it...probably because Lisa made it no secret to him that he would be beneath her and her company on the outside.
Did anyone else notice when Sonia called for last nights fake eviction that Lisa was name checked by someone in the crowd? It was also heard by the house. She might want to rethink her game...
Girl that was fan-freaking-tabulous!
What was all this?
Sorry the forum transitioning to the show talk, some remnants of random boring thoughts, rants was happening.
You sound like you're trying to be specifically personal to me? Do you think I am someone you know? What is all that 'picking people out of the gutter stuff?' I don't know where that is coming from. I reread my post and can not see where any of that came from.
So please if you think you know me and are trying to be personal. Let me know, send me a PM or something. Don't just have a blind go at me in a forum post.
Otherwise I think where something often sparks me off on some random thoughts and tangents. You've done the same. That is fine, but you don't have to go off and do so in a personally attacking way to a stranger.
It's just very disconcerting to be reading someone seemingly personally attacking me and being like, 'what are they talking about.'
Sorry the forum transitioning to the show talk, some remnants of random boring thoughts, rants was happening.
You sound like you're trying to be specifically personal to me? Do you think I am someone you know? What is all that 'picking people out of the gutter stuff?' I don't know where that is coming from. I reread my post and can not see where any of that came from.
So please if you think you know me and are trying to be personal. Let me know, send me a PM or something. Don't just have a blind go at me in a forum post.
Otherwise I think where something often sparks me off on some random thoughts and tangents. You've done the same. That is fine, but you don't have to go off and do so in a personally attacking way to a stranger.
It's just very disconcerting to be reading someone seemingly personally attacking me and being like, 'what are they talking about.'
melaniee-jane
Well-Known Member
Sadly this whole breasts saga is just about the most dramatic thing that's happened without prompt from BB thus far... BUT I'm hoping since that is so that when Lisa gets the boot it gets bought up by Sonia, and that they will replay the footage and show her Travis probably said the most offensive thing. Id love them to ask why she never confronted Travis yet after David's comment she decided she would never bother with David again in the house. If you're going to act that way for one of the HMs, I feel it's so hypocritical to allow others to get away with the exact same (if not worse) behaviour
Tahan
BB13 Housemate
How is it not a personal attack?
She can't be close to him because his eyes are too close together?
First of all, that's ridiculous. Second of all, Lisa was the one saying that she wants to be judged by her personality and character, yet uses a physical trait as a possible reason to dislike him.
The way Lisa was telling the other girls about what she heard, clearly shows that she completely misheard what was said and filled in the gaps with her own imagination.
She tells the girls "David said my boobs looked great in the pool, but told the boys that he only said that because I was there, and he thinks they're low and saggy" (paraphrase)
But what we hear is that David never said her boobs looked great. He never said that he only picked Lisa because she was there. And yes, he did call them low (but nice), and not saggy.
The whole over reaction also highlights quite a naiveness when it comes to men IMO which I wouldn't expect from a strip club owner.
Her comments about her guy friends never objectifying her is another example. Sure they may not do it in front of her but I can guarantee they'd be making comments about her body whether positive or negative when she wasn't there...or at the very least think it. They may be her mates and they're also guys. I'm not naive enough to think my male friends don't make judgements about my physical appearance. We all do it. Women do as well. I notice the attractive and unattractive qualities in both my male and female friends and I assume they'd do the same to me.
Her comments about her guy friends never objectifying her is another example. Sure they may not do it in front of her but I can guarantee they'd be making comments about her body whether positive or negative when she wasn't there...or at the very least think it. They may be her mates and they're also guys. I'm not naive enough to think my male friends don't make judgements about my physical appearance. We all do it. Women do as well. I notice the attractive and unattractive qualities in both my male and female friends and I assume they'd do the same to me.
GretelKruger
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Maybe, but I would think there's a big component of still settling into the house and the experience. Being around people 24/7 that made hearing that have more of an impact than it would have on the outside.
Absolutely, but at the same time she did seem very certain that her male friends (in the real world - not in the house environment) would never make judgements on her body which I find very naive.
Well because i'm a middle class yuppi and not a tradie, someone elses words not mine, I apparently can't speak for guys. However I honestly can't think the last time I had a conversation about my female friends bodies.
We don't know if her friends would or wouldn't. It just made her feel she couldn't be comfortable as if she was in an environment of friends.
There is that aspect to BB which I always find odd. People straight away sexualising each other, talking about who they would and wouldn't do. It's one of the things that turns me off to some people like Travis. The sort of people who walk into any situation and think about getting their dick wet.
Sure we always see if we think people are attractive and so forth but there are times where that shouldn't be the agenda up front.
I'm not just talking about sitting around having those kinds of conversations though. I'm not a guy but I'd hazard a guess the type of conversations the boys were having in the bedroom wouldn't happen too frequently given that was completely scripted and set up by BB.
However her wording on the issue seemed to imply that her guy friends would never objectify her but in reality I find that very difficult to believe given the moment you think of someone sexually or make a judgement on their body (even if you don't say it) you're actually objectifying them. I don't for a second think her male friends wouldn't have those thoughts from time to time or pass judgement on her assets (whether they speak openly about it or not).
The sexualisation you speak of on BB is weird and I think it's a by-product of the highly edited and scripted version of the show we get. I don't for a second think that's all they sit around talking about, but apparently it's the only stuff worth airing. Although like you already alluded to, I have a feeling that may be Travis' default setting with or without editing lol.
Connoisseur
Well-Known Member
I was joking UAN.
Please don't go all sensitive on me too. 
All I was inferring it's that perhaps you might be a bit out of touch with what males from various economic backgrounds besides your own discuss and talk about.
Do you socialise with the likes of say Travis, Ryan, Matt '13 etc..? Because to me you give off that impression that you wouldn't wanna caught dead in the same room with guys of that 'ilk' and whether you like it or not 'uncouth' (or slightly less refined/civilized
) males abound aplenty in society.In fact I'll go as far as to say they're the majority. They're not minority or don't exist just because they don't form a significant part of you your day to day experience.
Exactly!
I honestly don't see the big deal.
Sure you don't want to be hearing that stuff, but the fact that it was said doesn't diminish her as a person, unless SHE defines herself by her physical attributes. They never once said that saggy boobs makes her less of a person.
Plus, I'd much rather them talk inappropriately/be not politically correct than look like they're measuring everything they say because of how it might be perceived on the outside.
If say, she was in the room and people were whispering about her and laughing (females are more likely to do this tbh) then I'd be feeling sorry for her because I think that's horrible, but it wasn't even like that.
My prediction of her cutting a bitch before long came true though
