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timdormer
1 minute ago
Hahaa check out the Chrissy card dad made!!!

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Yep, I certainly agree in saying that if you take personality out of it and just think about his looks he's gorgeous. I was more referring to the people saying his personality is what's attractive. I certainly do agree that there are aspects of Drew's character that are hot as hell, but there's also a lot that turns me off personally. I know Tahan cops lot of crap for being nasty (from me myself sometimes), Jade does for the hole comment, Mikkayla does quite a bit too, however to me Drew was the nastiest in there by far in terms of being that way consistently...and I personal just don't find that side of him attractive and it really came out a lot. That's not even taking into account the lack of backbone or moral integrity (I'm sorry but it takes two people to cheat). I still remember when Drew was talking to Tully at the fence one night and was basically telling her that he just needed a girl in the house for affection like a "disposable girlfriend", and pretty much said that if they couldn't give him that then he had no use for them.

It's funny how I've been able to find pretty much all the HMs likable on the outside (although I'll be honest and say that Tahan has tried my patience), however unfortunately I still haven't been able to separate Drew's personality from his looks enough to find him as attractive as the masses have. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Part of me will always like Drew, and I can see his appeal...but when I see people going Gaga over him I'm kinda just sitting there like "I must be defective because to me he's not that wonderful".
You're not defective at all! I'm a big sucker for sarcasm and self-deprecation whether it's from a guy or girl so I'll 9 times out of 10 find that attractive. Basically the person would have to murder Bambi for me not to like them I think. I was out at lunch yesterday when I saw TullyLovesDrew post Tully's pizza post and I almost pissed myself laughing when I clicked the link. Thankfully I was in the loo and not rudely checking my phone at the table because I'm not sure how I would've explained that one to my supposed BB hating friends. And that's probably a big reason I'm starting to warm to Ed again... although I don't have any proof of it obviously, I always assume 99% of his hashtags are a pisstake and they make me giggle. And I love how he and Nick take the mickey out of each other about their looks, clothes, whatever. There's something very Aussie to me about that sense of humour which I haven't really experienced in any of the other countries I've lived in so I just adore it as that's exactly how I've always been too. Although admittedly I'm a lot less funny and I haven't yet mastered the art of translating that online so I often accidentally send people into a tizzy.

Which is kind of funny actually... the HMs I had no time for in the house - and Drew was one of them on any given day - I now somewhat like and even look forward to the updates people post in here from them. And yet the two who are picking my ass the most these days - Ben and the sisters - are probably the least offensive ones as a whole to the general public. Ben will never win me over because of the lying bs but I was an avid supporter of the sisters and kept harping on about how the house would change for the worse if they left, blah blah blah (I'm sure you saw my spiels at the time lol) and yet now everything about them makes me cringe although I still know they're basically lovely girls. It's interesting how it works like that. :)
 
I agree...sometimes we just don't click with personalities and don't see what others see in them...I couldn't stand Jade (probably my least favorite) and some people on the other JA thread and fans that voted for her treat it like she's amazing..

I think Drew's a sweetheart from what I saw but obviously we saw it differently

..I wonder if I'm defective as well

It's funny because I do see the good parts of Drew that others see, and ironically he was probably the HM I "clicked" with the most given his whole vibe is probably the one that's closest to mine. However to me he still consistently did enough things for me personally to say "okay, he's not that wonderful". I kinda have to wonder sometimes how popular Drew would have been if he say looked like Ben instead. Not saying anyone's perceptions here are clouded by his looks, but I think it might be the case for a lot of fans (particularly young females).

I actually find it really interesting that you clearly adore Drew but hate Jade because to me they are quite similar, and funny enough some of things that pissed me off with Jade were the same things that pissed me off with Drew. They both probably screwed themselves over a bit by thinking with their hearts and emotions rather than their heads with the Drully and Jaded stuff. Yes, I know that there are some people that like Drully and Jaded, but it seems the majority of fans didn't and both storylines cost Drew and Jade quite a few.

About the "disposable girlfriend" comment…I disagree with your reading of it, specifically if they couldn't give him affection then he had no use for them. How does his relationship with Boog fit in?
As for nastiness, Drew said what was on his mind. Are those that sat by and let their friends slag off others any less culpable? In fact Boog seems to have been one of the few who would question others' interpretations of people's characters and reasoning.

I think it's important to remember that Drew had already the relationship he had with Tully before Boog even entered. Even if he wanted any sort of physical affection from Boog it's not like he was ever going to act on it given a big part of him probably thought Tully would be watching and waiting for him on the outside. And also I think you can get affection from someone without it needing to be physical. To me Drew got a great deal of emotional affection and companionship from Boog so in a way I think he was getting what he subconsciously needed from her. Just like how she got the same from him when I think she really needed it (i.e. when all the HMs bar Drew chose Maddie to stay over her). I know some of you are Drully supporters and wont like what I'm about to say, but I wouldn't be honest if I didn't say right now that I've always thought that Drew and Boog would have made the better pairing had have that ever eventuated.

On the nastiness vs. "saying what you think"...I'm always hesitant to comment on this type of thing because where do you draw the line? How many nasty things does someone have to say before it can't be passed off as "honesty" any more?
 
It's funny because I do see the good parts of Drew that others see, and ironically he was probably the HM I "clicked" with the most given his whole vibe is probably the one that's closest to mine. However to me he still consistently did enough things for me personally to say "okay, he's not that wonderful". I kinda have to wonder sometimes how popular Drew would have been if he say looked like Ben instead. Not saying anyone's perceptions here are clouded by his looks, but I think it might be the case for a lot of fans (particularly young females).

I actually find it really interesting that you clearly adore Drew but hate Jade because to me they are quite similar, and funny enough some of things that pissed me off with Jade were the same things that pissed me off with Drew. They both probably screwed themselves over a bit by thinking with their hearts and emotions rather than their heads with the Drully and Jaded stuff. Yes, I know that there are some people that like Drully and Jaded, but it seems the majority of fans didn't and both storylines cost Drew and Jade quite a few.



I think it's important to remember that Drew had already the relationship he had with Tully before Boog even entered. Even if he wanted any sort of physical affection from Boog it's not like he was ever going to act on it given a big part of him probably thought Tully would be watching and waiting for him on the outside. And also I think you can get affection from someone without it needing to be physical. To me Drew got a great deal of emotional affection and companionship from Boog so in a way I think he was getting what he subconsciously needed from her. Just like how she got the same from him when I think she really needed it (i.e. when all the HMs bar Drew) chose Maddie to stay over her. I know you're a Drully supporter, but I wouldn't be honest if I didn't say right now that I've always thought that Drew and Boog would have made the better pairing had have that ever eventuated.

On the nastiness vs. "saying what you think"...I'm always hesitant to comment on this type of thing because where do you draw the line? How many nasty things does someone have to say before it can't be passed off as "honesty" any more?
Sadly I don't fit the young female bill at all. I agree with your comments about Boog except for the couple part. If ever 'mateship' was tattooed over a friendship it was that one. I may well be wrong, but I don't think Drew would have been concerned about Tully's response. It was clear through not only his actions, but his words, that he was well and truly hooked. Just so we're clear about Drully: I wouldn't wish it for either of them if it didn't seem mutual, and frankly, this week I'm a little exasperated with Tully and her bloody dog. her neediness still concerns me.
In the house I actually thought Mikkayla was by far the most toxic. She had a sense of entitlement and was prepared to shut others out completely: Justynn and Boog being the best two examples. The fact that she was almost never called on her spite, except by Tahan and Tim reflects poorly on all those who let her get away with it for so long. Her comments about Tahan being dumb and undeserving were pathetic and interestingly, I think the people she befriended, aside from Tim were chosen perhaps unconsciously by her because they weren't as smart as her. It made them easier to manipulate.
 
It's funny because I do see the good parts of Drew that others see, and ironically he was probably the HM I "clicked" with the most given his whole vibe is probably the one that's closest to mine. However to me he still consistently did enough things for me personally to say "okay, he's not that wonderful". I kinda have to wonder sometimes how popular Drew would have been if he say looked like Ben instead. Not saying anyone's perceptions here are clouded by his looks, but I think it might be the case for a lot of fans (particularly young females).

I actually find it really interesting that you clearly adore Drew but hate Jade because to me they are quite similar, and funny enough some of things that pissed me off with Jade were the same things that pissed me off with Drew. They both probably screwed themselves over a bit by thinking with their hearts and emotions rather than their heads with the Drully and Jaded stuff. Yes, I know that there are some people that like Drully and Jaded, but it seems the majority of fans didn't and both storylines cost Drew and Jade quite a few.

Whoa!!....I don't hate Jade at all!!!... I think I have the least in common with her and just didn't find her that interesting (JMO)...I have said in plenty posts that she has her good qualities...She's very caring, a good listener, she had some good observations during the seasons (she's not an airhead by any means)...

I think fans sometimes inadvertently may gravitate towards better looking people...but there were a lot of good looking people in the cast...He had a lot of fans that weren't just teen girls...
 
Whoa!!....I don't hate Jade at all!!!... I think I have the least in common with her and just didn't find her that interesting (JMO)...I have said in plenty posts that she has her good qualities...She's very caring, a good listener, she had some good observations during the seasons (she's not an airhead by any means)...

I think fans sometimes inadvertently may gravitate towards better looking people...but there were a lot of good looking people in the cast...He had a lot of fans that weren't just teen girls...
Jade lacks wit while housemates like Boog and Drew (and even Ben at times) have it in spades. In short she was 'nice'…damned with faint praise I know. Even her conversations with Ed were dreary.
 
*No, I don't just hang around waiting for Tim to post a pic. I was uploading one of my own when I got the notifications. Just thought I'd make it clear that I haven't completely lost the plot haha


timdormer
1 minute ago
Fun in big nanny's backyard with my nephews. #tongueoff #roar

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timdormer
55 seconds ago
The boys.

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You're not defective at all! I'm a big sucker for sarcasm and self-deprecation whether it's from a guy or girl so I'll 9 times out of 10 find that attractive. Basically the person would have to murder Bambi for me not to like them I think. I was out at lunch yesterday when I saw TullyLovesDrew post Tully's pizza post and I almost pissed myself laughing when I clicked the link. Thankfully I was in the loo and not rudely checking my phone at the table because I'm not sure how I would've explained that one to my supposed BB hating friends. And that's probably a big reason I'm starting to warm to Ed again... although I don't have any proof of it obviously, I always assume 99% of his hashtags are a pisstake and they make me giggle. And I love how he and Nick take the mickey out of each other about their looks, clothes, whatever. There's something very Aussie to me about that sense of humour which I haven't really experienced in any of the other countries I've lived in so I just adore it as that's exactly how I've always been too. Although admittedly I'm a lot less funny and I haven't yet mastered the art of translating that online so I often accidentally send people into a tizzy.

Which is kind of funny actually... the HMs I had no time for in the house - and Drew was one of them on any given day - I now somewhat like and even look forward to the updates people post in here from them. And yet the two who are picking my ass the most these days - Ben and the sisters - are probably the least offensive ones as a whole to the general public. Ben will never win me over because of the lying bs but I was an avid supporter of the sisters and kept harping on about how the house would change for the worse if they left, blah blah blah (I'm sure you saw my spiels at the time lol) and yet now everything about them makes me cringe although I still know they're basically lovely girls. It's interesting how it works like that. :)

Yeah, it's very interesting Mrs B (p.s. did I tell you I met Tim yesterday?). Like I said, I love Drew's sense of humour too, but I guess sometimes I thought it crossed the line from funny to nasty. That wouldn't even bother me either (I'm much the same as Drew in this regard) had an obvious double-standard not exist where I feel others (Tim, Jade, Tahan, Mikkayla, etc) cop it worse for doing less. I like Drew a lot of the time, but I guess I don't love him enough to be immune to his flaws.

I should just add though, and I know I've said this before, but flaws in HMs are great (the major reason I liked Jade so much was because she had flaws, she fucked up a lot, but that was her. She didn't put on an act or a persona to try and win people over and I respect anyone who has the guts to play the game like that).
 
Yeah, it's very interesting Mrs B (p.s. did I tell you I met Tim yesterday?). Like I said, I love Drew's sense of humour too, but I guess sometimes I thought it crossed the line from funny to nasty. That wouldn't even bother me either (I'm much the same as Drew in this regard) had an obvious double-standard not exist where I feel others (Tim, Jade, Tahan, Mikkayla, etc) cop it worse for doing less. I like Drew a lot of the time, but I guess I don't love him enough to be immune to his flaws.

I should just add though, and I know I've said this before, but flaws in HMs are great (the major reason I liked Jade so much was because she had flaws, she fucked up a lot, but that was her. She didn't put on an act or a persona to try and win people over and I respect anyone who has the guts to play the game like that).
NO you DID NOT tell me you met Tim yesterday!!!!!!!!! What the heck??!!! At Wet and Wild?! Was he lovely or was he a dick?! I keep waiting for someone to say he was a jackoff when they met him and haven't seen it yet but I know you'll say the truth. I would like every detail please!
 
I don't even understand this. Why don't they just buy the perfume themselves? Feel like I'm missing something here.


Tahan Lew Fatt ‏@ TahnyLew 3m

With @ Stellvadore at Myer in Burke street need someone to purchase a 50ml @ EsteeLauder perfume so we can purchase the $98 bag worth $500 ✌
 
Whoa!!....I don't hate Jade at all!!!... I think I have the least in common with her and just didn't find her that interesting (JMO)...I have said in plenty posts that she has her good qualities...She's very caring, a good listener, she had some good observations during the seasons (she's not an airhead by any means)...

I think fans sometimes inadvertently may gravitate towards better looking people...but there were a lot of good looking people in the cast...He had a lot of fans that weren't just teen girls...

Haha, maybe instead of "hate" I should have said "I couldn't stand Jade (probably my least favorite)". Same point still applies though. Ironically, on a personality level, I don't have much in common with Jade either. However I admire the hell out of some of her qualities and wish I had them myself. There are parts of her though I really relate to. I remember once she said to Drew that she hated talking sometimes because everything that came out of her mouth was stupid and I know I've felt that exact same thing from time to time...and I guess her fears were somewhat warranted given the comments you heard from the other HMs about her being an idiot or the comments on here about her lack of intelligence/wit. I know what it's like to just close down and not say anything sometimes in fear of humiliating yourself based on previous experience.
 
NO you DID NOT tell me you met Tim yesterday!!!!!!!!! What the heck??!!! At Wet and Wild?! Was he lovely or was he a dick?! I keep waiting for someone to say he was a jackoff when they met him and haven't seen it yet but I know you'll say the truth. I would like every detail please!

If she calls Tim a dick I'll never believe another word she says. Waiting anxiously, and freezing my butt off, teeth chattering. #havepityplease. He's not a dick, lovely is the only choice.
 
I don't even understand this. Why don't they just buy the perfume themselves? Feel like I'm missing something here.


Tahan Lew Fatt ‏@ TahnyLew 3m

With @ Stellvadore at Myer in Burke street need someone to purchase a 50ml @ EsteeLauder perfume so we can purchase the $98 bag worth $500 ����✌
They don't want the perfume, but if they buy it, they get the special offer.
 
I don't even understand this. Why don't they just buy the perfume themselves? Feel like I'm missing something here.


Tahan Lew Fatt ‏@ TahnyLew 3m

With @ Stellvadore at Myer in Burke street need someone to purchase a 50ml @ EsteeLauder perfume so we can purchase the $98 bag worth $500 ����✌

I have no idea about the perfume or the bag but my brain is having all sorts of issues trying to reconcile Estelle and Tahan being friends!!! I don't know what others think... What is their connection?
 
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Ok, wonder if this girl is the one he said he would always go back to if she would take him back? Member when Tully got mad and stomped off when he said it? Wow, these two make a really cute couple too. Hmm.

Jump back at me all you want, I don't like him with Tully, she is too controlling, he is a passive type of person and he disappears when he's with her.
 
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Ok, wonder if this girl is the one he said he would always go back to if she would take him back? Member when Tully got mad and stomped off when he said it? Wow, these two make a really cute couple too. Hmm.

Jump back at me all you want, I don't like him with Tully, she is too controlling, he is a passive type of person and he disappears when he's with her.
You say passive, I say easygoing.
 
I have no idea about the perfume or the bag but my brain is having all sorts of issues trying to reconcile Estelle and Tahan being friends!!! I don't know what others think... What is their connection?
haha focus dammit!! If a bag's worth $500, why don't they just spend the cash on the perfume and then hawk it on ebay or give it away as an Xmas gift?!

Estelle and Tahan knew each other before Tahan went on BB. Not sure how, but Estelle was actively supporting her on Twitter along with Drew and continued to even though she copped heat for it (especially at the start of the show). Her being friends with Tahan and willingly putting herself out there in support of her when Tahan didn't have many fans at the time is one of the things that made me question the sisters and Jade saying Tahan called her girlfriends fat, ugly moles because that all doesn't jive with Estelle's personality. Or at least what we think we know of it anyway.

*FTR, I do believe Tahan said that but I think it was in reference to random people as in the way Tim relayed how Tahan would tell a story and the other person was always a mole. Not her girlfriends.
 
Sadly I don't fit the young female bill at all. I agree with your comments about Boog except for the couple part. If ever 'mateship' was tattooed over a friendship it was that one. I may well be wrong, but I don't think Drew would have been concerned about Tully's response. It was clear through not only his actions, but his words, that he was well and truly hooked. Just so we're clear about Drully: I wouldn't wish it for either of them if it didn't seem mutual, and frankly, this week I'm a little exasperated with Tully and her bloody dog. her neediness still concerns me.
In the house I actually thought Mikkayla was by far the most toxic. She had a sense of entitlement and was prepared to shut others out completely: Justynn and Boog being the best two examples. The fact that she was almost never called on her spite, except by Tahan and Tim reflects poorly on all those who let her get away with it for so long. Her comments about Tahan being dumb and undeserving were pathetic and interestingly, I think the people she befriended, aside from Tim were chosen perhaps unconsciously by her because they weren't as smart as her. It made them easier to manipulate.

I think we must see things differently because I personally thought that Boog was pretty smitten with Drew. And I actually meant that Drew would have been concerned with Tully's response given his feelings and not wanting to do anything that would upset her or be misconstrued.

I agree about Mikkayla. She copped it pretty badly in the beginning, but I think when she realised that Tim had her back it developed a sense of security and entitlement where she could pretty much do whatever she wanted and get a bit arrogant with the power. Ironically, as much hate as she obviously had for Tahan, I couldn't get over how similar they were in that regard (i.e. Mikk's "Tahan is undeserving" and Tahan's "I'm so much better than those girls"). I guess that's why they say we often dislike people who are similar to us: they highlight our own flaws that we try and hide from.

She didn't just subconsciously think she was smarter than the people she was friends with either, she told Tim herself that she thought she had a much better chance of winning than either Jade or the Sisters due to this.

NO you DID NOT tell me you met Tim yesterday!!!!!!!!! What the heck??!!! At Wet and Wild?! Was he lovely or was he a dick?! I keep waiting for someone to say he was a jackoff when they met him and haven't seen it yet but I know you'll say the truth. I would like every detail please!

Yes, at wet n wild. He was lovely as I expected. And like I said in the JA thread yesterday, he was surprisingly down to earth and "normal" as well which wasn't what I was expecting to be honest.
 
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