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Sweet_Geek
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I'm just going to pretend last year never happened. I didn't actually watch the finale last year I just skipped right to the end after estelle was evicted.
Edit: though I did see videos hear and there... I was more curious about the musical acts... Awkward
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jb4493
Guest
These are Sportingbets odds from the day before finale last year:
Outright Winner
Benjamin 1.60
Estelle 3.20
Layla 5.50
So I think its safe to say Tim has won it.
Outright Winner
Benjamin 1.60
Estelle 3.20
Layla 5.50
So I think its safe to say Tim has won it.
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Sweet_Geek
Guest
Well I look like an ass now... Awkward.
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Nath86
Guest
Why did everyone dislike Ben last year? I liked him. Thought he was funny but couldn't stand that dickhead skater girl Estelle. She was so fake it wasn't funny
lucyd765
New Member
Even more $
Sorceress
..Bow Down To Thee..
Um...because he was a horrible person.
Shackles
The pen is mightier than the sword.
They're over-betting on Tim (Tahan has a major fanbase - or should I say, her boyfriend is mostly the 'base').
At least like that:
Tim: 1.90
Tahan: 2.00
Jade: 2.10
Even Kruger said, it's going to be SO CLOSE. And it WAS!
[MENTION=36670]Nath86[/MENTION], Ben was outright amazing. I don't get his haters. Most of them hate him because he won. They had other favourites, so they're pissed off that he won. He wasn't a horrible person. He DID have a horrible side, but he had a nice good, likable side. Tahan is no more horrible than he was btw. Tim was even more of a pot stirrer than Ben. So please, stop the Benjamin hate...
[MENTION=35834]Sweet_Geek[/MENTION], if they showed the voting graph or not Ben would have still won. Six housemates where shown with their SAVE votes (4-5 days BEFORE grand final) - that was WAY TOO EARLY. Votes can change a lot in a matter of hours even.
Last years top 5 vote to win percentages:
Estelle: 24%
Benjamin: 20%
Layla: 18%
Michael: 16%
Zoe: 15%
Sam: 7%
How come Michael fans didn't vote him up? He was more of a favorite than Layla. You see, no one based their opinion on the graph. They would've voted no matter what. Estelle, Ben and Michael fans were nonstop voters. The exposed graph didn't stop them.
At least like that:
Tim: 1.90
Tahan: 2.00
Jade: 2.10
Even Kruger said, it's going to be SO CLOSE. And it WAS!
[MENTION=36670]Nath86[/MENTION], Ben was outright amazing. I don't get his haters. Most of them hate him because he won. They had other favourites, so they're pissed off that he won. He wasn't a horrible person. He DID have a horrible side, but he had a nice good, likable side. Tahan is no more horrible than he was btw. Tim was even more of a pot stirrer than Ben. So please, stop the Benjamin hate...
[MENTION=35834]Sweet_Geek[/MENTION], if they showed the voting graph or not Ben would have still won. Six housemates where shown with their SAVE votes (4-5 days BEFORE grand final) - that was WAY TOO EARLY. Votes can change a lot in a matter of hours even.
Last years top 5 vote to win percentages:
Estelle: 24%
Benjamin: 20%
Layla: 18%
Michael: 16%
Zoe: 15%
Sam: 7%
How come Michael fans didn't vote him up? He was more of a favorite than Layla. You see, no one based their opinion on the graph. They would've voted no matter what. Estelle, Ben and Michael fans were nonstop voters. The exposed graph didn't stop them.
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Sweet_Geek
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I realised that, which is why I said in another post, just a few more up from your post... I said I made an ass out of myself. So yes I was wrong. You are absolutely right. Thanks for clearing it up with me again though and actually providing some figures too. Never say something without evidence eh
Sorceress
..Bow Down To Thee..
Tahan and Tim are nowhere near the level of pure awful that Ben12 was.
Was pissed off that Ben won because Australia rewarded such an awful person not because he beat anyone else.
And no, will never stop the Ben hate, soz!
michdealm
Active Member
What an insult to Tahan saying she is no more horrible than Ben from last year. And I dont even support Tahan.
Lovely Ben from last year, stated recently on Twitter "imagine a room on fire and Jade and Maddie are tied together.. that is all". Apparently that was a joke. I certainly don't get it.
None of this year's housemates have been anything like him and I am so grateful for that. So glad they have stuck him in Sydney and hopefully we get very little of him in the finale. Preferably nothing.
Lovely Ben from last year, stated recently on Twitter "imagine a room on fire and Jade and Maddie are tied together.. that is all". Apparently that was a joke. I certainly don't get it.
None of this year's housemates have been anything like him and I am so grateful for that. So glad they have stuck him in Sydney and hopefully we get very little of him in the finale. Preferably nothing.
Shackles
The pen is mightier than the sword.
Tahan definitely was worse than him. She only seems sweet now because her opponents are 'destroyed' (Mikkayla, Katie/Lucy) and the fact that she didn't have followers in the house (Ben did). Not to mention, you people hate him because you preferred Estelle a lot and are angered that she didn't win. So I can understand.
Again, so glad he won.
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GCfan
Guest
Agree
Sorceress
..Bow Down To Thee..
Nice to see he's still a nasty piece of work.
I preferred Estelle because she was being picked on but she wasn't a favourite housemate - That series was shitty and I particularly didn't like anyone and I never expected Estelle to win.
I just didn't want a nasty person like Ben winning.
Shackles
The pen is mightier than the sword.
I actually liked Estelle. She was my 2nd or 3rd favourite. I liked the majority of last year's housemates. It was one of the better series - straightforward, tight, fair character development and less 'twisty'.
I think this series has been crap though. I mean we had Heidi, Matt, Rohan, Sharon, Nathan, Caleb, Xavier, Maddy, Jasmine - who even remembers them? Awful editing mixed with bland housemates sums up BB 2013.
I'm praying for a good BB2014 (if that ever happens).
[MENTION=31499]michdealm[/MENTION]
I know, it's such an insult saying that Tahan is worse than Benjamin. We should respect those who call other girls mean names, bitch about them and make them cry.
You really can't be serious. You really can't, Mich.
*Facepalming till my face is squashed*
"Stuck him in Sydney"? He was at last night's eviction!
michdealm
Active Member
[MENTION=1267]torifrog[/MENTION] - he will be in Sydney with Layla for the Finale. Yay. Stuck up on a roof.
The way Ben12 treated Estelle on the final night when he knew everything was going out on live TV was appalling. I supported Estelle because I did not want a horrible person like him winning. I turned off when he was announced as the winner. I had hoped he would be decent in real life but his recent tweet shows he is the same vile person that we saw on TV.
When Ben12 was nominated by his housemates last year we saw a very different Ben. He sulked and was miserable the whole week. Tahan does not act like that. I also have not seen Tahan be mean to people to their faces the way he was. I know she mocks people behind their backs. Who hasn't? As I said before, I do not support Tahan. I still do not believe she is in any way like him. He is way down at the bottom where he belongs.