Housemate #2 - Tahan

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abbie1217 said:
I wasn't really replying to your comment or even the topic which is why I edited out the rest of your comment. I was just using your description of what two faced means to make general observations about Tahans behavior, as people do in housemate threads. They make comments(good or bad) about the housemates behavior.

I don't think you understand what I was trying to say. I don't have a problem with Tahan lying, bitching and being two faced. Like you said everyone does it. The issue is that she doesnt think shes doing it and criticizes other people for doing it.
She lies about who she votes for but then she goes on and on about how honest she is. She is being two faced around Ed but then she criticizes Mikkayla for being two faced. She is insensitive and bitchy but criticizes Mikkayla for being bitchy and insensitive...I could go on.
I'm just pointing out that she's been inconsistent and hypocritical in a lot of what she's said. If its part of some game plan of hers, that's fine but just don't get offended if other housemates or fans of other housemates call her out on it.
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Why should I be offended if I know people are 2-faced?
I already said Tahan can be 2-faced. Your telling me things I already know.

First you say you dont have a problem yet you make a post about this?
 
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mavsfan said:
Why should I be offended if I know people are 2-faced?
I already said Tahan can be 2-faced. Your telling me things I already know.

First you say you dont have a problem yet you make a post about this?
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Like I said I was just making general observations about her behavior. I will repeat this again - I don't have a problem with her being two faced, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HER CRITICIZING OTHER PEOPLE FOR DOING IT WHEN SHE IS DOING IT HERSELF.

I'm not calling her out about her lying, bitching and two facedness, I'm calling her out on her hypocracy. Its just an observation.
 
abbie1217 said:
Like I said I was just making general observations about her behavior. I will repeat this again - I don't have a problem with her being two faced, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HER CRITICIZING OTHER PEOPLE FOR DOING IT WHEN SHE IS DOING IT HERSELF.

I'm not calling her out about her lying, bitching and two facedness, I'm calling her out on her hypocracy. Its just an observation.
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So your saying basically anyone who is 2-faced (which is a lot of people in the world) cant criticise others in fear of hypocrisy.
If everybody that has told a lie does this, there will be no complaining at all in the world.

If I act differently around someone when they are not there because I complain to a friend.
Your saying I cant judge people who do the same?

So if you bitch about someone, you should not complain when they do it on someone else?
Ill take it into account when posters say this HM is a bitch but complain when the same is applied to their favourites.
I will recommend them to you.
 
I'm so confused by the arguments in here. I feel like I'm treading on holy ground with the over the top moral attitudes in here. Tahan is no saint, we know that, she knows that and everyone else knows that. She doesn't pretend to be a goody good- she admits to being a bitch and a mean girl. So what's the problem? I still like her! She is harmless, she admits what she is that others are so self righteous about. That makes her on the lower end of the scale of hypocrisy compared to other hm's who are pretending they are perfect hm's
 
Sweet_Geek said:
I'm so confused by the arguments in here. I feel like I'm treading on holy ground with the over the top moral attitudes in here. Tahan is no saint, we know that, she knows that and everyone else knows that. She doesn't pretend to be a goody good- she admits to being a bitch and a mean girl. So what's the problem? I still like her! She is harmless, she admits what she is that others are so self righteous about. That makes her on the lower end of the scale of hypocrisy compared to other hm's who are pretending they are perfect hm's
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I know shes no saint and can be 2-faced.

They are saying she cant complain about other people over actions she does herself.
Basically they want Tahan to be a pushover and do nothing.
If fellow housemates bitch about Tahan, they expect her to do nothing about it or shes a hypocrite.
I would stand up for myself. Fuck being a hypocrite.
 
mavsfan said:
I know shes no saint and can be 2-faced.

They are saying she cant complain about other people over actions she does herself.
Basically they want Tahan to be a pushover and do nothing.
If fellow housemates bitch about Tahan, they expect her to do nothing about it or shes a hypocrite.
I would stand up for myself. Fuck being a hypocrite.
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Yeah ok. No worries... I'm rolling my eyes at this.
I'd prefer to be a hypocrite big time and stand up for myself. I don't know anyone who isn't a hypocrite. It's not like her hypocrisy is vengeful, hurtful or malicious.

I guess the same thing was said about mikkayla then? You know because she does it? Or is it just tahan? What a stupid question of course only tahan ;)
 
Sweet_Geek said:
Yeah ok. No worries... I'm rolling my eyes at this.
I'd prefer to be a hypocrite big time and stand up for myself. I don't know anyone who isn't a hypocrite. It's not like her hypocrisy is vengeful, hurtful or malicious.
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I think they were agreeing with you but I could be interpreting it wrong.

Anyway, I think Tahan's qualities will land her a spot in the top 5 or top 4. With the sisters gone now, she has less people who annoy her and the intruders have provided a good distraction.

We'll see how she goes.
 
rachael92 said:
I think they were agreeing with you but I could be interpreting it wrong.

Anyway, I think Tahan's qualities will land her a spot in the top 5 or top 4. With the sisters gone now, she has less people who annoy her and the intruders have provided a good distraction.

We'll see how she goes.
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I was agreeing with them.

Sorry if it doesnt look like it.
I already said multiple times on several boards that Tahan can be 2-faced but apparently they keep saying Tahan does this wrong or that wrong. They only see it from one side apparently.

First over not telling Nathan about voting. She still has bigger enemies so why does she need to tell him? This is a game, not life. If she does tell him, he can interpret her as rude and not wanting to get to know him WHICH IS MAY NOT BE THE CASE.

Now because shes criticise people after complaining about fellow housemates doing this. Wow, Ill get just bashed and do nothing. If you want a housemate to do nothing, support Ben please.

I ask them how they will act in a similiar situation and yet to get a response.
 
rachael92 said:
I think they were agreeing with you but I could be interpreting it wrong.

Anyway, I think Tahan's qualities will land her a spot in the top 5 or top 4. With the sisters gone now, she has less people who annoy her and the intruders have provided a good distraction.

We'll see how she goes.
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I was agreeing with them, I was just being sarcastic. Didn't come across that way? My goodness I am hopeless at interpreting a point over the net lol

[MENTION=36582]mavsfan[/MENTION], so sorry, I was agreeing with you, just being a smart ass about it. Sorry
 
Sweet_Geek said:
I was agreeing with them, I was just being sarcastic. Didn't come across that way? My goodness I am hopeless at interpreting a point over the net lol

[MENTION=36582]mavsfan[/MENTION], so sorry, I was agreeing with you, just being a smart ass about it. Sorry
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I'm hopeless at interpreting sarcasm :P

Just call me sheldon cooper.
 
mavsfan said:
So your saying basically anyone who is 2-faced (which is a lot of people in the world) cant criticise others in fear of hypocrisy.
If everybody that has told a lie does this, there will be no complaining at all in the world.

If I act differently around someone when they are not there because I complain to a friend.
Your saying I cant judge people who do the same?

So if you bitch about someone, you should not complain when they do it on someone else?
Ill take it into account when posters say this HM is a bitch but complain when the same is applied to their favourites.
I will recommend them to you.
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I'll give you an example. If you're a thief and you go around stealing from people but then cry foul when other people steal. Do you seriously not see why some people might have a problem with that and find it ridiculously hypocritical for that thief to complain?

Tahan got caught out lying but then goes on and on about being an honest person, she's accused Mikkayla of being insensitive about racism when she has been equally insensitive about Mikkaylas body image, she criticized the housemates for not giving Justynn a chance but seemed fine not giving the sisters a chance, she is two faced around Ed but accuses other people of being two faced.....etc. I mean do you seriously not see why some fans and housemates may have a problem with her inconsistencies? especially if she's put herself on a pedestal saying that she is the most genuine housemate.

My comments are no different to people making comments about Mikkayla like "Mikkayla calls tahan bitchy but then she says bitchy things about Tahan" or people making comments about the sisters and jade " oh they complain about Tahan being a bully but then they try to isolate tahan with their pack mentality" etc. Most of the housemates - mikkayla, jade, tim, drew, the sisters, ed have all been called out when they've been hypocritical. My comments about Tahans hypocracy is no different to any of that.
 
abbie1217 said:
I'll give you an example. If you're a thief and you go around stealing from people but then cry foul when other people steal. Do you seriously not see why some people might have a problem with that and find it ridiculously hypocritical for that thief to complain?

Tahan got caught out lying but then goes on and on about being an honest person, she's accused Mikkayla of being insensitive about racism when she has been equally insensitive about Mikkaylas body image, she criticized the housemates for not giving Justynn a chance but seemed fine not giving the sisters a chance, she is two faced around Ed but accuses other people of being two faced.....etc. I mean do you seriously not see why some fans and housemates may have a problem with her inconsistencies? especially if she's put herself on a pedestal saying that she is the most genuine housemate.

My comments are no different to people making comments about Mikkayla like "Mikkayla calls tahan bitchy but then she says bitchy things about Tahan" or people making comments about the sisters and jade " oh they complain about Tahan being a bully but then they try to isolate tahan with their pack mentality" etc. Most of the housemates - mikkayla, jade, tim, drew, the sisters, ed have all been called out when they've been hypocritical. My comments about Tahans hypocracy is no different to any of that.
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She is a hypocrite and so are many people. I already know this.
Tell me something new.

So you want Mikkayla to bitch about her and do nothing?
If Tahan says nothing at all, she becomes a easier target.
Hypocrisy or being bashed? Hmm...
People will respond if they get attacked so its not a hard choice there.

About the thief, they wouldnt complain as they would steal it from the fellow thief. Problem solved.
 
Tahan handled the situation in the best way possible tonight. She confronted the girls and gave them the chance to clarify. She didn't go on the attack, she gave them the opportunity to speak. I appreciated that jade apologised, but mikkayla was a condescending bitch. It doesn't take away what was said though and it shouldn't have been. Tahan stuck up for herself and let the girls know what was said and showed she wasn't afraid to confront them. Yes she cried in the diary room and she was allowed to have a moment of weakness. She didn't do it in front of all to get the pithiness and for that I respect her more than I already did. She wasn't manipulating the public, she isn't to know what will be shown. The girl doesn't have anyone but herself and she is amazing for it.
 
Sweet_Geek said:
Tahan handled the situation in the best way possible tonight. She confronted the girls and gave them the chance to clarify. She didn't go on the attack, she gave them the opportunity to speak. I appreciated that jade apologised, but mikkayla was a condescending bitch. It doesn't take away what was said though and it shouldn't have been. Tahan stuck up for herself and let the girls know what was said and showed she wasn't afraid to confront them. Yes she cried in the diary room and she was allowed to have a moment of weakness. She didn't do it in front of all to get the pithiness and for that I respect her more than I already did. She wasn't manipulating the public, she isn't to know what will be shown. The girl doesn't have anyone but herself and she is amazing for it.
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She was sorry she got caught thats it. She did try to run away from it by saying she didn't remember what she said or what topic she was talking about and if we replayed the video again you could actually see her face being like "i'm screwed how can I run away from the situation". At Least she realized what she said was wrong, thats why she couldn't explain herself since what she said was inexcusable.
 
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She was sorry she got caught thats it. She did try to run away from it by saying she didn't remember what she said or what topic she was talking about and if we replayed the video again you could actually see her face being like "i'm screwed how can I run away from the situation". At Least she realized what she said was wrong, thats why she couldn't explain herself since what she said was inexcusable.
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I was a huge jade supporter, so I am sitting on the fence about it. What she said was wrong and you are right she was sorry she was caught. She laughed after what she said and enjoyed knowing she had made the comment and straight away said she didn't wish her dead. Rather than focus in what she said she instead went on a hunt to find out who had said his to tahan. It was out of character to the jade I knew, but regardless it was a disgusting thing to say.
 
I still can't believe this is a thing. I could understand if Jade said she wanted Tahan dead then left it at that and waited until confronted to appologize .. but she IMMEDIATELY said "No" then said how she doesn't mean that and she would not want her to be dead.

I feel bad for Tahan, but I also felt bad for all these other girls that Tahan made cry after she bullied them. Jade's comment wasn't even meant to hurt Tahan .. it was just talking about her after hearing Tahan had been talking about them AGAIN.
 
abbie1217 said:
Tahan got caught out lying but then goes on and on about being an honest person, she's accused Mikkayla of being insensitive about racism when she has been equally insensitive about Mikkaylas body image,
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Interesting that Tahan didn't seem to have a problem with the accent Tim was using in the "day spa" recently. Not that I care either way , but I thought she was against that kind of thing ?
 
Autumn said:
I still can't believe this is a thing. I could understand if Jade said she wanted Tahan dead then left it at that and waited until confronted to appologize .. but she IMMEDIATELY said "No" then said how she doesn't mean that and she would not want her to be dead.

I feel bad for Tahan, but I also felt bad for all these other girls that Tahan made cry after she bullied them. Jade's comment wasn't even meant to hurt Tahan .. it was just talking about her after hearing Tahan had been talking about them AGAIN.
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but jade always talks about how she hates how tahan makes catty jokes and says "just kidding" right after. so she's doing the exact same thing she accuses tahan of. how is joking about wishing someone dead not meant to hurt her but making fun of extensions/eating habits classed as bullying?
tahan wasn't even talking about them, it sounded like she was freaking out about being nominated with some of the strongest players in the game and just trying to look on the bright side. and even if she was, jade and mikkayla talk about tahan as often as she talks about them so that isn't an excuse.
the last few pages of this thread have been about tahan's hypocrisy in lying about voting for justin, so why isn't jade also a hypocrite for doing the thing she hates of tahan?
 
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