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Layla was a gracious runner up

I just wish one thing: when Estelle was evicted and Ben threw the horse over the wall, I wish that instead of giggling sycophantically (look it up, Layla, if you read this!) she had looked Ben in the eye and said: "That was a pathetically childish and mean-spirited thing to do." Because it was, and Ben needed someone to call him out on his prick-like conduct throughout the series. It would have been for his own good. But right to the last, no-one dared (other than Estelle in the diary room, and boy did he hate that).
 
I, too, thought Layla was lovely. As for the horse-throwing incident, I thought it was funny! I just assumed that Ben had run inside, grabbed the horse and was throwing it over to Estelle so that she could keep it. I didn't see it as being mean at all.
 
Jam said:
I just assumed that Ben had run inside, grabbed the horse and was throwing it over to Estelle so that she could keep it. I didn't see it as being mean at all.
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hmmm... you have a touching faith in the good in all of us, Jam. It would be ungracious of me to say anything to dent that. :)
 
silkworm said:
This thread has nothing to do with Layla. It was started by a Benjamite to divert our attention away from Ben's despicable performance.
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Seems like you got the venting forum wiped with your loony antics, are you wanting the entire forum gone.
 
silkworm said:
This thread has nothing to do with Layla. It was started by a Benjamite to divert our attention away from Ben's despicable performance.
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God I hope you're trolling and not thinking that for real.
 
Kaz said:
Seems like you got the venting forum wiped with your loony antics, are you wanting the entire forum gone.
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Also venting forum has been retired because it's not needed any more :-)

Basically that forum was a slop bucket to keep the filth from overflowing into the main forums.
 
Estelle fans actually brought some sensible discussion to that forum. As for Layla...I didn't think she was very gracious always to Estelle and the final week showed it more than ever unfortunately.
 
starry said:
Estelle fans actually brought some sensible discussion to that forum. As for Layla...I didn't think she was very gracious always to Estelle and the final week showed it more than ever unfortunately.
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Quoted from News.com.au, an interview with Layla

What's the one thing that frustrated you the most being in the confines of the house?
Estelle, she was probably the most annoying thing about the whole experience. No one realises how hard she was to live with, it was really hard. It was the drama, her talking to herself so the cameras could hear, like the whole game play. I'd walk in and I'd be thinking, 'what are you talking about? who are you talking to?' and she'd go 'oh nothing' and then trot around on her horse. It was so weird.


This may answer why she wasn't so gracious towards Estelle.
 
Tim said:
Also venting forum has been retired because it's not needed any more :-)

Basically that forum was a slop bucket to keep the filth from overflowing into the main forums.
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I'm actually surprised the Fandom Vs FanDumb thread has survived. Although it has morphed into an analysis of how
Estelle was perceived in the house from various POV. Still some interesting discussion/debate going on there without too much abuse!
 
Allgood said:
Quoted from News.com.au, an interview with Layla

What's the one thing that frustrated you the most being in the confines of the house?
Estelle, she was probably the most annoying thing about the whole experience. No one realises how hard she was to live with, it was really hard. It was the drama, her talking to herself so the cameras could hear, like the whole game play. I'd walk in and I'd be thinking, 'what are you talking about? who are you talking to?' and she'd go 'oh nothing' and then trot around on her horse. It was so weird.


This may answer why she wasn't so gracious towards Estelle.
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I think Estelle was very patient with the very dumb Layla, I admire her for her patience.

And the game of Big Brother is about living with people who are very different from you and being tolerant. Estelle was really good at that, some others like Layla weren't.
 
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Allgood said:
Quoted from News.com.au, an interview with Layla

What's the one thing that frustrated you the most being in the confines of the house?
Estelle, she was probably the most annoying thing about the whole experience. No one realises how hard she was to live with, it was really hard. It was the drama, her talking to herself so the cameras could hear, like the whole game play. I'd walk in and I'd be thinking, 'what are you talking about? who are you talking to?' and she'd go 'oh nothing' and then trot around on her horse. It was so weird.


This may answer why she wasn't so gracious towards Estelle.
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Strange how there was never any evidence of this on the live updates or the DS. Either the editors and producers were spectacularly biased or it was just plain propaganda all along.
 
starry said:
I think Estelle was very patient with the very dumb Layla, I admire her for her patience.

And the game of Big Brother is about living with people who are very different from you and being tolerant. Estelle was really good at that, some others like Layla weren't.
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I think some of the housemates assumed it was a holiday and that they should be surrounded by all their friends. It wasn't a holiday - it was social experiment and a game. It was to see how people react in that artificial environment, with choice and control removed, with other people of varying outlooks, personalities and opinions.

It wasn't about confronting people who may not have the type of personality that you prefer, and expecting them to change themselves to accommodate your intolerance. It was about seeing how people cope and react.

The outcome of the game should be judged on how housemates coped with and tolerated each other's differences, and what sorts of behaviours were displayed over the duration of each housemate's stay. It's not about what they are like outside, what posts they may have made 4 years ago, or even what they plan to do afterwards. It's about how they performed during the game, in an environment that was designed to test and and challenge them, their views about others, and their behaviours.

I had wanted Estelle gone first week, and wanted Charne to stay - but over the course of the game Estelle was the one who dealt with the enforced community, isolation from support networks, the personalities, the games and the strategies the best - without adopting the "lord of the flies' mentality that many of the others did.
 
Let's be honest here. Layla is not knowingly evil - she's just a simple, ignorant person. People like that are not good at understanding, let alone embracing, difference. It puts them way outside their comfort zone. Ben was probably overwhelming for her too at times, but he knew how to play her and won her round. Estelle didn't have those manipulative skills and so stayed on the outer.
 
v-tone said:
Let's be honest here. Layla is not knowingly evil - she's just a simple, ignorant person. People like that are not good at understanding, let alone embracing, difference. It puts them way outside their comfort zone. Ben was probably overwhelming for her too at times, but he knew how to play her and won her round. Estelle didn't have those manipulative skills and so stayed on the outer.
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Layla was brainwashed:p
 
Allgood said:
Quoted from News.com.au, an interview with Layla

What's the one thing that frustrated you the most being in the confines of the house?
Estelle, she was probably the most annoying thing about the whole experience. No one realises how hard she was to live with, it was really hard. It was the drama, her talking to herself so the cameras could hear, like the whole game play. I'd walk in and I'd be thinking, 'what are you talking about? who are you talking to?' and she'd go 'oh nothing' and then trot around on her horse. It was so weird.


This may answer why she wasn't so gracious towards Estelle.
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So she talks to herself...big deal. Who is it hurting and why do they just assume that its "game play"? Maybe she was just lonely.
 
starry said:
I bet Layla talked to herself sometimes in there. :D
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We saw Michael narrating his actions on at least a couple of occasions. I have a feeling a couple of the others did, too. And danced by themselves in front of the mirrors - which means to the cameras.

But, as others have pointed out, when someone irritates you every thing they do is magnified in how you perceive it
 
starry said:
I bet Layla talked to herself sometimes in there. :D
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Whether she did or didn't, she did play up for the cameras big time when in the diary room. She always sat in the same way while in the chair and always draped her hair over her shoulder. In my opinion this is playing up to the cameras just as much as talking to yourself.
 
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