Tonight's Edit: Benjamin the House Bitch.

[Maddy]

Ben also had an interesting conversation with Sam about integrating more with other housemates and specifically told him to approach Stacey about using the gym because she wanted to get fit and lose weight. Sam obviously took it on board because Stacey ended up nominating him for trying to drag her into the gym!

Every piece of advise I've seen him hand out has backfired on the other person, whether that's who they should hook up with or how they should behave to get on better with other HM'S. I think he knows exactly what he's doing.

 

[clb999]

Ben also had an interesting conversation with Sam about integrating more with other housemates and specifically told him to approach Stacey about using the gym because she wanted to get fit and lose weight. Sam obviously took it on board because Stacey ended up nominating him for trying to drag her into the gym!

Every piece of advise I've seen him hand out has backfired on the other person, whether that's who they should hook up with or how they should behave to get on better with other HM'S. I think he knows exactly what he's doing.

Yes, I picked that up with Stacy's nomination too. Kinda felt sorry for Sam in that instance. When the red team was in the bedroom, i did think that it looked as though Josh was over the bitching and may have caught onto Ben's tactics. I think Layla was a bit over it too but I don't think she is smart enough to work out the gameplay.

 

[clb999]

Maddy, the cat is so cute, always makes me smile!

 

[Tee]

I think it is important to point out when reacting to those you like/love/tolerate our behaviours and attitudes change minute by minute as situations change throughout the day.

That is normal human interaction.

It is okay to bitch about your best friend when she has annoyed you, it is okay to moan in exasperation when your child is behaving badly, it is okay to whinge about your partner driving you bonkers, when his dirty clothes once again miss the dirty clothes basket, it is normal human interaction. It doesn't mean you don't love/like those people. It just means for that moment, they annoyed you and you vocalised it.

The housemates at times annoy each other and as a reaction to that temporary annoyance, they whinge about it, that doesn't mean they hate the other person, that doesn't mean they are diabolically devious, it just means they were sounding off. Just like we do on a daily basis.

 

[Maddy]

Maddy, the cat is so cute, always makes me smile!

Don't you just want to tickle her belly!

TraLa, I get that, I really do and I know these people have been shoved into an un-natural environment for the past two months but there are a couple that started bitching and simply haven't stopped. It's not a matter of them having a bad, it's constant.

 

[Cade]

Yes, I picked that up with Stacy's nomination too. Kinda felt sorry for Sam in that instance. When the red team was in the bedroom, i did think that it looked as though Josh was over the bitching and may have caught onto Ben's tactics. I think Layla was a bit over it too but I don't think she is smart enough to work out the gameplay.

Yes I definitely on two other occasions beside that noticed Josh sitting passively watching while Ben bitched. He even said something along the lines of "people feel the need to get along with others to not get nominated" or something along those lines which to me was him trying to explain why Ben was going to people and being nice and then knifing them the moment he walked away - as Ben didn't even seem to understand why he was acting the way he was (ie going and trying to get Sam to 'open' up and then saying MEEP - RIGHT while he was still standing in the gym next to Sam and then calling him boring when he walked away. Josh being what - 28?? - is one of the older ones and I did get that he was aware of Ben and his antics, he didn't want to get Ben off side I don't think though so sat and just listened without entering into the bitching. It's a shame Josh went, I didn't like his arrogance with assuming he got the first pick of any girls in the house, but he did win points with me for silently watching Ben and giving off an "I got your number my bitchy little one" vibe. I just PRAY that Ben doesn't turn and try and be nice when the numbers dwindle. I want him coming out of the house known as a b*tch. Someone I know knows someone he knows in Melbourne and said he's a f-ing a-hole in real life.

I think Stacey will fall out with Ben and Ben will pull Michael in closer. The producers will really struggle to edit him in a favourable light I think without Josh around and with Ben as Michael's 'go to housemate'.

 

[Cade]

I think it is important to point out when reacting to those you like/love/tolerate our behaviours and attitudes change minute by minute as situations change throughout the day.

That is normal human interaction.

It is okay to bitch about your best friend when she has annoyed you, it is okay to moan in exasperation when your child is behaving badly, it is okay to whinge about your partner driving you bonkers, when his dirty clothes once again miss the dirty clothes basket, it is normal human interaction. It doesn't mean you don't love/like those people. It just means for that moment, they annoyed you and you vocalised it.

The housemates at times annoy each other and as a reaction to that temporary annoyance, they whinge about it, that doesn't mean they hate the other person, that doesn't mean they are diabolically devious, it just means they were sounding off. Just like we do on a daily basis.

I don't agree with that. I think if you love someone you care about their image and how others perceive them, and you would not run them down to other people. You'd address the issue WITH them. I'd never go to someone else and bad mouth someone I love, why should they end up looking bad to other people because I'm too gutless to tell them what they've done to annoy me.

 

[Cade]

TraLa, I get that, I really do and I know these people have been shoved into an un-natural environment for the past two months but there are a couple that started bitching and simply haven't stopped. It's not a matter of them having a bad, it's constant.

The point is - they're from all walks off life - and like any work place, you're NOT going to like everyone. It's ok to not like someone, but to act friendly to their face and then slag them behind their back? Just gutless. I know it wins me no friends and I sometimes get isolated but if I don't like someone in a work place, I keep away from them (unless it's work related and I just act professional). This BB house is a clique of people wanting 250K and so trying to keep in good with people. All fine if you want to be ruthless but if I hear Ben say "I think you're an amazing person" and then knife them the moment he walks away I'm gonna scream. Either you think they're an amazing person or you DON'T, he's so damned false it's aggravating. Does he seriously think he can win BB which is based on the Australian public taking you to their heart and rooting for you? He's so deluded !

 

[Cade]

it's his gay nature to act like a female dog (bitch)... he will probably win BB because the powers that be are promoting gay acceptance everywhere.

I'm sorry but it's not gay nature to be a bitch. It's common - I admit that, but don't paint us all with the same brush. The moment Ben in his package said "i'm the bitchiest person you'll ever meet" I wanted to stop watching. I probably should have for all the enjoyment I've gotten out of this season.

 

[BootsAlice]

The point is - they're from all walks off life - and like any work place, you're NOT going to like everyone. It's ok to not like someone, but to act friendly to their face and then slag them behind their back? Just gutless. I know it wins me no friends and I sometimes get isolated but if I don't like someone in a work place, I keep away from them (unless it's work related and I just act professional). This BB house is a clique of people wanting 250K and so trying to keep in good with people. All fine if you want to be ruthless but if I hear Ben say "I think you're an amazing person" and then knife them the moment he walks away I'm gonna scream. Either you think they're an amazing person or you DON'T, he's so damned false it's aggravating. Does he seriously think he can win BB which is based on the Australian public taking you to their heart and rooting for you? He's so deluded !

Ah yes, but to say someone is "an amazing person" can work either way... either you're "amazingly fabulous" or you're "amazingly stupid", or whatever.

To say to someone that they are amazing can give the impression that you mean only good things but what is unsaid is the greater indicator of true feelings.

 

[Maddy]

The point is - they're from all walks off life - and like any work place, you're NOT going to like everyone. It's ok to not like someone, but to act friendly to their face and then slag them behind their back? Just gutless. I know it wins me no friends and I sometimes get isolated but if I don't like someone in a work place, I keep away from them (unless it's work related and I just act professional). This BB house is a clique of people wanting 250K and so trying to keep in good with people. All fine if you want to be ruthless but if I hear Ben say "I think you're an amazing person" and then knife them the moment he walks away I'm gonna scream. Either you think they're an amazing person or you DON'T, he's so damned false it's aggravating. Does he seriously think he can win BB which is based on the Australian public taking you to their heart and rooting for you? He's so deluded !

Yeah, I don't like the backbiting. I know they're stuck together with little to no way to escape, but as you said, that does not make it right, there are other ways of dealing. It just reminds me of high school and sadly it's coming from the oldest members of the house. Some nights I feel like I'm watching an episode of Jersey Shore or The Hills, something I've managed to avoid!

 

[Tee]

I don't agree with that. I think if you love someone you care about their image and how others perceive them, and you would not run them down to other people. You'd address the issue WITH them. I'd never go to someone else and bad mouth someone I love, why should they end up looking bad to other people because I'm too gutless to tell them what they've done to annoy me.

Yes that is the way it would work in a perfect world, but sadly I, like most, am flawed and I love to gossip.

 

[Kaz]

I don't agree with that. I think if you love someone you care about their image and how others perceive them, and you would not run them down to other people. You'd address the issue WITH them. I'd never go to someone else and bad mouth someone I love, why should they end up looking bad to other people because I'm too gutless to tell them what they've done to annoy me.

You will be Australia's next Saint.

 

[torifrog]

I don't agree with that. I think if you love someone you care about their image and how others perceive them, and you would not run them down to other people. You'd address the issue WITH them. I'd never go to someone else and bad mouth someone I love, why should they end up looking bad to other people because I'm too gutless to tell them what they've done to annoy me.

The two are NOT mutually exclusive. Every now and then my hubby does something that drives me insane with frustration - and I discuss it with him and we resolve it as adults. But sometimes he's at work when I've discovered what it is, or I'm away, or whatever - and in those circumstances I WILL unload on friends before talking with him - for a few reasons 1. it gives me an outlet so that when I talk with him I am calm; 2. it provides me with perspective in case I'm over-reacting; and 3. it helps me figure out exactly what and why whatever it is has upset me.

 

[CaspersMum]

The two are NOT mutually exclusive. Every now and then my hubby does something that drives me insane with frustration - and I discuss it with him and we resolve it as adults. But sometimes he's at work when I've discovered what it is, or I'm away, or whatever - and in those circumstances I WILL unload on friends before talking with him - for a few reasons 1. it gives me an outlet so that when I talk with him I am calm; 2. it provides me with perspective in case I'm over-reacting; and 3. it helps me figure out exactly what and why whatever it is has upset me.

Exactly right. Having a whinge to friends before confronting a problem with CaspersDad has saved our marriage I'm sure. And maybe his life.

 

[Bird Flipping]

The two are NOT mutually exclusive. Every now and then my hubby does something that drives me insane with frustration - and I discuss it with him and we resolve it as adults. But sometimes he's at work when I've discovered what it is, or I'm away, or whatever - and in those circumstances I WILL unload on friends before talking with him - for a few reasons 1. it gives me an outlet so that when I talk with him I am calm; 2. it provides me with perspective in case I'm over-reacting; and 3. it helps me figure out exactly what and why whatever it is has upset me.

So agree. Who of us haven't been pissed off at our hubby or a friend and have vented about it? Doesn't mean you don't still love and adore the person, just means sometimes people upset us, make us angry or hurt us, but we eventually get over it and the good relationship continues.

I mean, I don't understand what Ben sees in Stacey sometimes, but I certainly don't doubt that he has a genuine friendship for her.

 

[Cade]

You will be Australia's next Saint.

No - I just respect those that I love, it's pretty easy to do.

 

[la`cat]

Yes that is the way it would work in a perfect world, but sadly I, like most, am flawed and I love to gossip.

I love gossip...but I listen and do not repeat. Unless I see it or hear it personally.. it is not true , and just gossip

 

[Tee]

I love gossip...but I listen and do not repeat. Unless I see it or hear it personally.. it is not true , and just gossip

I love gossip too!

But unlike you I listen, then my tongue takes a life of its own and I will repeat it to anyone who will listen!

And if I don't know the gossip to be true, I will always begin with the standard "I am not sure if this is true or not but..." disclaimer.

 

[Jam]

Gossip. What is it exactly? Is it talking about something that has happened that puts someone in a bad light? Or is it expressing youropinion of another person and their value in yourworld? If it's the first, then that's fine (although everything we see is filtered through our own value system, anyway). If it's the second, then it should certainly be taken as a reflection of the speaker rather than who's being spoken about.

Not everyone is going to agree with this, of course. And not everyone is going to listen to a influential person's opinion and take it as just an opinion; sadly, sometimes mud sticks.