Will the change of PM be announced to the HMs?

[Nan_Taylor]

I wonder how Ben would react if he was told he was going to be treated like a second-class citizen for another 3 years?

 

[keke]

I wonder how Ben would react if he was told he was going to be treated like a second-class citizen for another 3 years?

Try the next 6 or 9 years.

 

[The10thDoctor]

Don't think Tully will be needing that same
Sex marriage any time Soon. In sayin that the country should be sending the new
PM their views on the issue. Hell he has a gay sister for christs sake. It's bizarre to me that he takes this stance against the issue

I wonder how Ben would react if he was told he was going to be treated like a second-class citizen for another 3 years?

How is Ben being treated like a second class citizen? Who has defined that class? Most countries in the world dont have gay marriage...are you saying every single gay in those places are second class citizens? What makes a second class citizen? Someone who isnt allowed to do what another person is?
Im sure there are hundreds of laws that allow one group to do something and bars another from doing the same. I am talking world wide that is.

And why should Abbot support Gay marriage? It isnt something he believes in..are you saying he should compromise his beliefs? Wouldnt that make him a liar? He would become a liar who cant stick to his guns.


Me..i dont care either way who marries who...im not against it, im not for it..let people do what they want. I wont march for it, i wont sign petitions for it..but i wont fight against it either. If Tony is against, well, good for him. If he changes his mind..well good for him again. You can never please anyone

 

[Allgood]

I wonder how Ben would react if he was told he was going to be treated like a second-class citizen for another 3 years?

Look i'll let you in on a secret. Krudd never gave two shits about gay marriage, he simply said he did as a last ditch effort to win votes.

Support for gay marriage is up to about 75% now in Australia. I wouldn't say I support gay marriage but I have NEVER had an issue with gay marriage and would be happy to see the laws change. Krudd is a piece of steaming shit who went against his own beliefs just to get votes.

If Krudd got back in there in no way of you could say gay marriage was 100% going to get through.

 

[The10thDoctor]

Look i'll let you in on a secret. Krudd never gave two shits about gay marriage, he simply said he did as a last ditch effort to win votes.

Support for gay marriage is up to about 75% now in Australia. I wouldn't say I support gay marriage but I have NEVER had an issue with gay marriage and would be happy to see the laws change. Krudd is a piece of steaming shit who went against his own beliefs just to get votes.

If Krudd got back in there in no way of you could say gay marriage was 100% going to get through.

75% of who??

 

[Spectator O.O]

When the Libs fuck you over, you'll know the difference.

Quoted for truth!

 

[Noxious]

How is Ben being treated like a second class citizen? Who has defined that class? Most countries in the world dont have gay marriage...are you saying every single gay in those places are second class citizens? What makes a second class citizen? Someone who isnt allowed to do what another person is?
Im sure there are hundreds of laws that allow one group to do something and bars another from doing the same. I am talking world wide that is.

And why should Abbot support Gay marriage? It isnt something he believes in..are you saying he should compromise his beliefs? Wouldnt that make him a liar? He would become a liar who cant stick to his guns.


Me..i dont care either way who marries who...im not against it, im not for it..let people do what they want. I wont march for it, i wont sign petitions for it..but i wont fight against it either. If Tony is against, well, good for him. If he changes his mind..well good for him again. You can never please anyone

It's not up to the PM to run the country based on his own beliefs, he should be running it the way the people if Australia want it run. Abbott thinks woman are second class citizens so marriage equality most definitely wouldn't be anywhere high on his agenda

 

[kxk]

although like Bush he may be dolt when it comes to foreign affairs Abbott is a Rhodes Scholar with a masters in politics and philosophy and i think making the comparison is doing him a disservice.
morally i disagree with almost everything he stands for....mostly because his morals are largely based off his Catholic faith.

THE WORST Uni professor I ever encountered, just loved to keep telling us he was a Rhodes scholar............
Absolute fuckwit - after a month of lectures and piles of note taking and reading....................he told us to forget all that.
He was never able to communicate, he was totally disorganised and utterly useless.

2 years later, I got a better understanding of this subject, when a notorious drunk guest lectured for 2 weeks.

Rhodes scholar selection must be ridiculous.

 

[talene]

so based on your experience with a sample of one from a pool of thousands Rhodes Scholar = ridiculous and a masters counts for naught

 

[silkworm]

Try the next 6 or 9 years.

Nah... Tonocchio may not even last a full term.

 

[hekkasdekkas]

It's not up to the PM to run the country based on his own beliefs, he should be running it the way the people if Australia want it run. Abbott thinks woman are second class citizens so marriage equality most definitely wouldn't be anywhere high on his agenda

Every person who voted for the Coalition knew what its stance was on gay marriage. If they went into the election saying they would support it, or at least consider it, and then Abbott turned around after he'd won and said "Nah actually we won't" I could understand your point. But the fact is that their position has been clear on it for several years, the populace knew that when they were voted in.

And I reject the opinion that Abbott views women as second class citizens.

 

[Nan_Taylor]

That's not the only type of person Abbott views as second-class citizens.

On Saturday night I was so afraid of going to sleep because I thought the next time I wake up I'll be in the 1950's.

 

[derspatz]

Abbott thinks woman are second class citizens ...

"Thou shalt not bear false-witness" ... especially if it is only going to make folk think you're merely projecting your own attitudes (and/or self-loathing) onto a soul who, for all intents and purposes, certainly appears blameless of the slanderous charge you oh so cowardly leveled against him and without even the slightest bit of verifiable evidence to support your clearly baseless claim.





regarDS

 

[Poxy]

It's not up to the PM to run the country based on his own beliefs, he should be running it the way the people if Australia want it run.

Yes it is. That's why we have elections, to elect the managers/politicians. We don't have an online poll on every issue that affects the country.

 

[The10thDoctor]

It's not up to the PM to run the country based on his own beliefs, he should be running it the way the people if Australia want it run. Abbott thinks woman are second class citizens so marriage equality most definitely wouldn't be anywhere high on his agenda

Thats exactly why we vote for a party. We listen to their beliefs, their policies and if we like it, we vote for them.


And even though i didnt vote for him or his party, i have never ever seen him treat women as second class people.
He might not buy into the feminazi propaganda, but that doesnt make him a woman hater.

As for not liking Gay marriage...that's his choice and everyone knows it. They still voted for him.

 

[tw2g]

"Thou shalt not bear false-witness" ... especially if it is only going to make folk think you're merely projecting your own attitudes (and/or self-loathing) onto a soul who, for all intents and purposes, certainly appears blameless of the slanderous charge you oh so cowardly leveled against him and without even the slightest bit of verifiable evidence to support your clearly baseless claim.
regarDS

sounds like derpspaz is a misogynist, homophobic, racist, moronic, bible bashing elitist as well...?

oh and heres my references.
womens rights:

The problem with the Australian practice of abortion is that an objectively grave matter has been reduced to a question of the mother’s convenience.

I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons

I think there does need to be give and take on both sides, and this idea that sex is kind of a woman’s right to absolutely withhold, just as the idea that sex is a man’s right to demand I think they are both they both need to be moderated, so to speak

What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing is that if they get it done commercially it’s going to go up in price and their own power bills when they switch the iron on are going to go up, every year…

Homosexuals:

I’d probably … I feel a bit threatened

If you’d asked me for advice I would have said to have – adopt a sort of “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy about all of these things…

Immigration

Jesus knew that there was a place for everything and it’s not necessarily everyone’s place to come to Australia.

Climate change

Climate change is absolute crap

If you want to put a price on carbon why not just do it with a simple tax.

Indigenous Australians

Now, I know that there are some Aboriginal people who aren’t happy with Australia Day. For them it remains Invasion Day. I think a better view is the view of Noel Pearson, who has said that Aboriginal people have much to celebrate in this country’s British Heritage

Him being PM

If we’re honest, most of us would accept that a bad boss is a little bit like a bad father or a bad husband … you find that he tends to do more good than harm. He might be a bad boss but at least he’s employing someone while he is in fact a boss.

Himself

I'm a cruel, callow, callous, heartless bastard

 

[derspatz]

I reckon the HMs should be told about what the new senate may well bring about (as posted in the BBB forums here) if the current senate stand in the way of the will of the people and the mandate the LNP have.

If the greenazis stand in the way between now and July, they'll lose even more in the long run ... especially if a DD election is *NOT* called. lol.

From here: http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3844843.htm

DAVID LEYONHJELM: We’re a libertarian party, a small “l” liberal. So we’re in favour of low taxes, less bureaucracy, smaller government, less expenditure. So, the issues to us that matter are reducing taxes, government getting out of the way, getting out of your pocket and off your back. So we’ll support anything that reduces taxes and we’ll support anything that increases our liberty.

LEIGH SALES: So you would obviously then be in favour of the carbon tax being repealed?

DAVID LEYONHJELM: We would. We would definitely support that and the mining tax. But we are not in favour of the Coalition’s policy on Direct Action on climate change, for example. It’s just a large amount of money down a black hole which will achieve nothing.

regarDS

 

[Goon]

Officially,

The housemates haven't been told and will not be told till they are Evicted.

 

[chads]

Why would Tully care about same sex marriage since she is straight. She is just fishing for points pretending to support it.

 

[tw2g]

Officially,

The housemates haven't been told and will not be told till they are Evicted.

so... unofficially, they have been told?