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Bluefin said:
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I also got lumbered with this cow(?). Who ever she is.
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Very interesting. My favourite moment of hers:

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SLAY, QUEEN STASSI!!
 
@Bluefin , can you describe a female friendly workplace. Obviously a person's basic human rights are taken for granted, but in IT things are pretty female unfriendly:

- mario kart lunchtimes.
- dressing Jonathan in polystyrene and rubberbands like a Transformer every single delivery with packing materials.
- shooting game and alcohol friday afternoons/nights
- rubber band blinking behind glass chicken games
- indoor cricket during morning and afternoon breaks.
- go karting or laser tag/skirmish christmas breakup.

Can you modify these activities to be more female inclusive.
 
Witty Banter said:
@Bluefin , can you describe a female friendly workplace. Obviously a person's basic human rights are taken for granted, but in IT things are pretty female unfriendly:

- mario kart lunchtimes.
- dressing Jonathan in polystyrene and rubberbands like a Transformer every single delivery with packing materials.
- shooting game and alcohol friday afternoons/nights
- rubber band blinking behind glass chicken games
- indoor cricket during morning and afternoon breaks.
- go karting or laser tag/skirmish christmas breakup.

Can you modify these activities to be more female inclusive.
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Ha ha. Well knitting :p and 2 hours off at lunch time to go skiing would be good modifications. My point was about perception, image and the less tangible aspects of culture. Are you saying there's no image problem?
 
Bluefin said:
Ha ha. Well knitting :p and 2 hours off at lunch time to go skiing would be good modifications. My point was about perception, image and the less tangible aspects of culture. Are you saying there's no image problem?
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Thought about it...and no, there is no image problem...for men entering into the field. Women must have higher standards and think programming is beneath them or something, and I went a career without actually meeting an Australian female software engineer. Given that sufficient numbers of men are entering the field, I don't think it's the job of a job to be equally attractive to both genders. I'm OK with nursing, teaching, psychology and marine biology being overwhelmingly female dominated fields. You'd really have to manipulate things to level those up. For reasons that are beyond me, Geology is also disproportionately female and university enrolment numbers are crazily skewed. I have zero problem with that and zero sympathy for guys choosing those.
 
Witty Banter said:
Thought about it...and no, there is no image problem...for men entering into the field. Women must have higher standards and think programming is beneath them or something, and I went a career without actually meeting an Australian female software engineer. Given that sufficient numbers of men are entering the field, I don't think it's the job of a job to be equally attractive to both genders. I'm OK with nursing, teaching, psychology and marine biology being overwhelmingly female dominated fields. You'd really have to manipulate things to level those up. For reasons that are beyond me, Geology is also disproportionately female and university enrolment numbers are crazily skewed. I have zero problem with that and zero sympathy for guys choosing those.
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I don't view it as case of higher standards and being beneath at all. More so, just less attractive in terms of the tangible and intangible aspects compared other options, but perhaps you might cite examples to the contrary. I also agree about some jobs being more naturally suited to different genders. What I find interesting is that some other traditionally, heavily male dominated industries (banking, automotive, energy) have shown significant signs of change towards inclusiveness of female gender. (Of course there's a whole debate around that too in terms of the mechanisms and performance). As you pointed out with the example of IT juggernauts grown out of passion for programming, the same examples hardly exist. I simply think it's an issue that can be partially influenced through image, but also understand an alternative view that perhaps it shouldn't need to be.
 
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