THE VIRUS 2020 - the good, the bad, and the ugly

There's a variety of healthcare experts and scientists out there. You could probably pick any of sort of view on the pandemic and you'll probably find a handful of experts supporting it. Not all of them are in agreement about everything.
same with politicians and vgilanties - I guess we are all doomed.
 
Lol.

Anti lockdown and people wanting the virus to be over with are linked. Only problem is these Premiers say that the virus is never going away. So there is no “virus being over with” or “returning to normal”.

We have to learn to live with covid. Otherwise our country will collapse into oblivion. But as long as these power mad premiers and their jackbooted thugs with badges keep on being keen to having the states in Australia become a permanent dictatorship then lockdowns will continue forever.
 
There's a variety of healthcare experts and scientists out there. You could probably pick any of sort of view on the pandemic and you'll probably find a handful of experts supporting it. Not all of them are in agreement about everything.

The problem with experts is that they are only interested in what they are experts in.
 
We have to learn to live with covid. Otherwise our country will collapse into oblivion. But as long as these power mad premiers and their jackbooted thugs with badges keep on being keen to having the states in Australia become a permanent dictatorship then lockdowns will continue forever.
Kind of. We have to reduce the replication rate so much that it becomes difficult to spread. Can't do that until enough people are vaccinated, otherwise the hospitals will continue to be overwhelmed and people will continue to die unnecessarily. First things first. Vaccinate as may people as you can, and then open up. You can't put the cart before the horse because you're pissed off with lockdowns. That is completely illogical and counterproductive.
 
I don't want to be in lockdown forever but nor do I see its a responsible thing for us to do to open the country back up the moment we hit 80% if NSW is as out of control with 6000 cases a day as predictions are saying.
 
I don't want to be in lockdown forever but nor do I see its a responsible thing for us to do to open the country back up the moment we hit 80% if NSW is as out of control with 6000 cases a day as predictions are saying.
I'd be okay if the rest of Australia is closed to us if NSW residents can travel overseas.
 
I think if we reach COVID 0, the international borders should be closed indefinitely until the rest of the world gets their act together.
 
NSW truckers etc keep bringing the disease accross the boarder. You can't just close NSW off from the rest of Australia.
Essentials like freight should keep running but if the other states want to stay closed then that is their decision. I'm wanting regular international flights to and from Sydney starting early next year. Australia is going to have to do this at some point so it might as well be Sydney that tries it first.
 
Essentials like freight should keep running but if the other states want to stay closed then that is their decision. I'm wanting regular international flights to and from Sydney starting early next year. Australia is going to have to do this at some point so it might as well be Sydney that tries it first.

Take up a sport or go in the entertainment industry, then you can go in and out of the country as much as you like.
 
Essentials like freight should keep running but if the other states want to stay closed then that is their decision. I'm wanting regular international flights to and from Sydney starting early next year. Australia is going to have to do this at some point so it might as well be Sydney that tries it first.
hmmm... As you have said this I have just realised that it may be that I have just not tuned in totally to all the political waffle,but "opening up" can have many definitions. It can mean no more lockdowns, it can mean no more working from home, it can mean going back to normal (no masks, no social distancing). it can mean traveling and having tourists. Have we had it defined what is meant by opening up? Or are the politicians using this lose term and then we are all talking at cross purposes depending on how we define it, and whether that makes sense to us? Because some or all of those things may sit right for each person.

I really want to be able to travel, but some of that is not entirely within the Australian governments control - it will depend on the country you want to travel to and thier restrictions. If we are travelling to a country we can probably ony do so if we are opening our boarders to tourists from there too, which the govt then have to work out if they are just going to allow these people to bring covid in, or are they going into iso first? If the latter when will we have better facilities built for that than the faulty system we currently have?
 
hmmm... As you have said this I have just realised that it may be that I have just not tuned in totally to all the political waffle,but "opening up" can have many definitions. It can mean no more lockdowns, it can mean no more working from home, it can mean going back to normal (no masks, no social distancing). it can mean traveling and having tourists. Have we had it defined what is meant by opening up? Or are the politicians using this lose term and then we are all talking at cross purposes depending on how we define it, and whether that makes sense to us? Because some or all of those things may sit right for each person.

I really want to be able to travel, but some of that is not entirely within the Australian governments control - it will depend on the country you want to travel to and thier restrictions. If we are travelling to a country we can probably ony do so if we are opening our boarders to tourists from there too, which the govt then have to work out if they are just going to allow these people to bring covid in, or are they going into iso first? If the latter when will we have better facilities built for that than the faulty system we currently have?

 
"Australia is set to go from one to four dedicated quarantine facilities, but not until part-way through 2022." So another 12 months before we can really have tourism back in Australia. And therefore probably another 12 months before some countries will allow us to be tourists in thier country. Some may allow us to go there without the recipricol (especially if they are a tourist driven country) but not all.
 
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