Skip to main content

The Bachelorette

Just listening to Fitzy and Wippa (got a fright at first because the station said news time it's 8 o'clock and I thought I was late getting ready for work lol. Derr stupid daylight savings).

Anyway regarding the spoiler pics Sam said she was really upset and they were 10 FLOORS UP!!! I didn't think they would be allowed legally to peer into people's hotel rooms like that.

Ps Sam and Sash bounce off each other so well, they pay each other out and both are funny together. He has great sense of humour.
 
Are there different rules governing online "news" as compared to proper newspapers? Maybe it's just an etiquette thing, but normal papers pretty much never spoil the results of anything, they just tease and preview it. The online ones go out of their way to ruin people's enjoyment of their favourite shows.
 
Are there different rules governing online "news" as compared to proper newspapers? Maybe it's just an etiquette thing, but normal papers pretty much never spoil the results of anything, they just tease and preview it. The online ones go out of their way to ruin people's enjoyment of their favourite shows.

The thing is, DM is part of Channel 9 so it's in their interest to spoil a rival's show, especially when they have been getting more ratings than them lately.
 
They're not :(
I think they're looking at doing that next year for the shows.

Oh okay. That's a shame but in all honesty I would have been way more interested in watching that type of special after the Bachelor season with the girls anyway. Emily's antics alone would have made me tune in. It probably would have just been a bunch of "love you guys" and them all being happy for one another with the boys anyway which is nice but not as interesting to watch lol.
 
On KiisFm this morning they were being interviewed by Kyle and JackieO ... the fact they were 10 floors up was mentioned ... Sam said "they're not allowed to take photos like that - in your private space" and Jackie said something about it apparently being ok if "it is in the public's interest" ... anyway interview continued then suddenly there was an announcement that the radio station had been "dumped" and it went to non-stop filler ads for about 5 mins - at this point I had to get into the office (was sitting in car waiting to hear rest of interview) ... but when I signed in to stream KiisFm it was still ads and then they came back and said they were trying to find out why they were dumped and how that even happened ... but no more Sam and Sash ... whether they had to move on for next interview I don't know ... but wondering if commenting on rights or wrongs of them being papped 10 storeys up

regardless someone in production or from the hotel staff obviously tipped off the papps because they'd have had to get into an office/apartment with view of the specific room they were filming the Hi message and taking happy snaps - or maybe they had one of those drone cameras - but you'd think they might have seen that because they're not exactly small or quiet - AND they'd used them themselves over in NZ on the finale show

I guess lesson learnt now - close curtains because other outlets are never going to play nice if it means them spoiling a finale

btw KiisFm had used a drone on the Hughsey and Kate segment .... Kate and Hughsey's wife conspired to have drone take photos of him ... inside their home ... so they would be all over the rules/regs about drone use and legalities
 
http://mumbrella.com.au/the-bachelo...l-damage-in-a-billion-dollar-media-war-326238

The Bachelorette spoiler: When viewers are collateral damage in a billion dollar media war

Tim-Burrowes-234x136.png
The Daily Mail’s spoiler story about the winner of The Bachelorette may seem trivial. But it’s a skirmish in a billion dollar business battleground where viewers end up as collateral damage, argues Mumbrella’s Tim Burrowes.


It’s easy to sneer about fans of a silly reality TV show getting upset about hearing a result before they can watch it.

But the actions of Daily Mail Australia in what looked like a calculated attempt to ruin the outcome of The Bachelorette for viewers, means more than it may seem.

It shows a misjudgement on the part of a young brand in putting what looks like the interests of its owners ahead of the interests of its audience.

As followers of free TV will be aware, last night marked the climax of The Bachelorette on Ten.

The show marked a turning point for the troubled network. After building a franchise with three series of The Bachelor, The Bachelorette was where Ten really capitalised on an audience that had bought into the dramas of the unhappy ending which had seen Blake Garvey choose, then reject, Sam Frost in the second series.

Viewers of The Bachelorette – more than a million of them nationally – chose to go on the journey as Sam Frost began the hunt for love again.

One can be as cynical as one likes about people who choose to watch reality television. But it is a fact that many bought into this show, whether ironically or otherwise, and planned to tune in for its finale last night.

Enter Daily Mail Australia.

Relevant here is that the operation is a joint venture with Ten’s rival Nine. Also relevant is that Ten is now aligned with Foxtel, which got the okay yesterday to take a 15% stake. And Foxtel is of course half owned by News Corp.

TV is competitive, and I’m sure Nine hated seeing Ten getting a successful franchise up after four or five years in the doldrums.

And this is where the misjudgement (or cynicism) from Daily Mail Australia came in.

There’s something of an etiquette about the online reporting of TV shows. If news emerges of a plot development, and there’s a risk that readers might not want to know about it before viewing, the over-used “spoilers” phrase is deployed as a warning.

It’s a signal to readers to go no further if they don’t want their viewing spoiled by revelations about the show.

And the abandonment of this protocol by Daily Mail Australia was what was so unusual, and perhaps cynical. For anyone who stumbled upon the Mail’s home page, the winner of The Bachelor was immediately obvious, without needing to click through to read the story.

Plans for a harmless night in watching Frost choose Sasha Mielczarek were ruined, or at the very least made less fun.

The-Bachelorette-S1-Ep10-Sam-and-Sasha-2-468x311.jpg


To me, it looked like this was the deliberate intention.

A reasonable person may well conclude that an obvious explanation for such behaviour was to discourage viewers from watching the show, as they now already knew the result.

Which makes a scoop (of a sort) for the Daily Mail, and a point scored by the Nine family against Ten.

And of course, against the viewer.

The collateral damage in this is Daily Mail Australia’s audience, of which I’m sure there is a large crossover with The Bachelorette.

Given the choice between hurting a rival and avoiding spoiling its own readers’ night, Daily Mail seemingly chose self interest.

It’s hardly surprising there’s been a backlash.

To me it seems a misjudgement. In the UK, the Daily Mail gets to throw its weight around because it’s a 119 year-old brand. In Australia, it’s less than two years old and still finding its place.

Then there’s the matter of the Press Council. The invasion of privacy of long lens photographs taken into a high rise hotel may earn censure for breaching privacy principles. (There’s a public interest defence, but not an interesting-to-the public defence.)

Regardless of whether the pair were alone in the room together or, as has been suggested, doing a photoshoot for a newspaper, there’s still a reasonable argument that they are entitled to privacy from third party photographers. Plenty of business takes place privately. It will be interesting to see what the Press Council does with it, if there is a complaint.

By the looks of the picture credit, by the way, the images were taken by a paparazzi agency and bought by the Daily Mail, which may well not have commissioned them ahead of time.

But this is still business. Ten is a half billion dollar company. Nine Entertainment Co is worth $1.3bn. Millions of people consume these fast moving consumer goods every day. It just so happens that the products are TV shows, where advertisers spend millions of dollars on the products that attract the biggest audiences.

Even if the editors were not acting under instructions from management – and I’m sure they weren’t – the competitive business environment won’t have escaped them.

Imagine if this was any other sector but media, and one ASX listed company used surveillance techniques against another. If that information was then used to damage the rival’s product before it could be launched, it would look a lot like the unconscionable behaviour that the Australian Competition and Competition Commission usually such takes a dim view of.

But because this is media, the argument could well come down to whether the Daily Mail was simply doing its job to tell its readers the news, or whether its main motivation was to engage in sharp business practices.

In a highly unusual move, Ten succeeded last night in getting an emergency injunction against the Daily Mail, despite the horse having bolted.

While the reasons for granting this unusual type of injunction have not yet been shared, it suggests that the judge was at least persuaded that Ten had an arguable case.

As the Fairfax Media versus Joe Hockey libel case demonstrated, when a media brand can be shown to have acted with malice, rather than in the public interest, many of the usual legal protections for journalism are lost.

If The Bachelorette spoiler ever goes to a full court hearing (and of course, these things are almost always settled first) the legal arguments will be fascinating.

Not least, it may be hard for Ten to prove what the damages were – the winner announcement still got a healthy 1.5m national viewers and Ten won the night, although we’ll of course never know whether it could have got more.

The cheap points that the Daily Mail scored may prove to be quite expensive.

The show may have been lightweight, but the wider issue is not.

  • Tim Burrowes is content director of Mumbrella
Related:

 
Let's all just hold hands again and take a moment to pray for Richie who has to endure the real pain here...not from having lost...but from having to be cousins with Lisa and also having Jake in his sphere.

#iwillnotgototheformalwithyou
You didn't just bag Lisa!!!
How could anyone not like that sweet princess!?



Although she's had too much face work now.
 
You didn't just bag Lisa!!!
How could anyone not like that sweet princess!?



Although she's had too much face work now.

She's probably one of the most awful people I've ever seen on BB and that's saying something! Acted like the worst high school mean girl despite being 29 (and I remember she was 29 because she literally told us every 5 minutes lol).
 
You didn't just bag Lisa!!!
How could anyone not like that sweet princess!?

Although she's had too much face work now.

You mean tiny brunette Lisa, Blake's runner up, don't you? That's who I thought people meant when they said something about Richie and Lisa - then I saw the photos and I thought who the hell is that blonde woman. (It's saggy-boobs Lisa off BB.)
 
Oh okay. That's a shame but in all honesty I would have been way more interested in watching that type of special after the Bachelor season with the girls anyway. Emily's antics alone would have made me tune in. It probably would have just been a bunch of "love you guys" and them all being happy for one another with the boys anyway which is nice but not as interesting to watch lol.

With special guest Warwick?
 
She's probably one of the most awful people I've ever seen on BB and that's saying something! Acted like the worst high school mean girl despite being 29 (and I remember she was 29 because she literally told us every 5 minutes lol).
I've followed Lisa since she left the BB house - and she's not like that at all on SM - she's the most positive person and interacts really well with people who leave comments ... there is no negativity at all around her
 
I've followed Lisa since she left the BB house - and she's not like that at all on SM - she's the most positive person and interacts really well with people who leave comments ... there is no negativity at all around her

I'm happy it seems like she's changed then post BB (or has she? it's easy to control how you come across on SM) but I found her really nasty on BB. I actually remember her going around saying who was and wasn't allowed to be part of her special "group" and trying to isolate people.
 
Sam Frost's Bachelorette finale dress is identical to gown worn by The Bachelor's Rachel Moore... and is worth THOUSANDS less than Snezana and Lana's finale gowns
By Jacques Peterson For Daily Mail Australia
  • The Bachelor became the butt of jokes earlier this year for its low budget finale, which saw Sam Wood offer his final rose to Snezana Markoski in Sydney - instead of in an exotic foreign location like the previous season's South African getaway.

    Now Channel Ten is cutting finale costs once again, this time by giving The Bachelorette's Sam Frost an identical dress to one worn by another Bachelor contestant.

    Sam's hand-beaded Philippa Galasso gown is the same as the one worn by The Bachelor intruder Rachel Moore, who vied for Sam Wood's heart alongside eventual runner-up Lana Jeavons-Fellows.


    2DA703A800000578-3284170-image-a-1_1445497861017.jpg

    Cutting costs: Sam Frost's hand-beaded Philippa Galasso gown is the same as the one worn by The Bachelor intruder Rachel Moore

    2DA703A400000578-3284170-Double_take_The_Bachelorette_s_stylist_Charmaine_De_Pasquale_was-m-1_1445503727199.jpg

    Double take: The Bachelorette's stylist Charmaine De Pasquale was told that the Philippa Galasso gown hadn't been worn before, but 29-year-old food blogger Rachel Moore wore the same design when meeting The Bachelor's Sam Wood

    The 29-year-old food blogger wore the designer gown when she entered the mansion to meet Sam Wood in August.

    In addition to wearing a recycled ensemble, Sam's gown is also worth thousands of dollars LESS than the dresses Snezana and Lana donned on The Bachelor finale.

    Sam's gold gown goes for $6,320 online while Lana's Philippa Galasso number cost $8,000, but Snez scored the most expensive outfit of the bunch with her custom-made Ixiah gown - worth a whopping $20,000.


    2DA700DB00000578-3284170-Spending_less_Sam_Frost_s_finale_gown_was_worth_almost_2000_LESS-a-26_1445499975656.jpg

    Spending less: Sam Frost's finale dress was worth almost $2000 LESS than Lana Jeavons-Fellows's Philippa Galasso gown

    2DA700D600000578-3284170-image-m-11_1445498531722.jpg
    2DA700CB00000578-3284170-image-a-12_1445498542552.jpg

    Downgrade: Lana's luxurious Philippa Galasso number cost $8,000, compared to the $6,320 for Sam Frost's ensemble

    But the Bachelorette's official stylist Charmaine De Pasquale was told by the designer herself that the gold-trimmed creation hadn't been worn before, despite being identical to Rachel Moore's dress.

    'When I asked Philippa, she said [this dress] hadn't been worn,' Charmaine told the Daily Mail Australia.


    However, Charmaine disagrees that the outfit was 100% recycled, saying that their custom alternations to the strapless ensemble made it unique to Sam.

    'We did our own alterations to it,' she told DMA.


    2DA700EB00000578-3284170-image-a-7_1445498509276.jpg
    • Big spender: Snezana's custom-made Ixiah gown broke the bank at a whopping $20,000

      2DA700E100000578-3284170-image-a-9_1445498519346.jpg
      2DA700E700000578-3284170-image-a-10_1445498520219.jpg

      Runway ready: Snezana's bridal inspired dress is from Ixiah's latest collection, and was paraded on the catwalk at the label's Mercedes Benz Fashion Week Australia runway show in Sydney earlier this year

      'It's like anything, you go to any designer and you'll grab a certain dress and you'll like that style and you make alterations to it because at the end of the day they are all sample dresses that we use for the show and we gave it our own little touch.

      'We got Philippa to add more layers of netting and more of a silk underlining to build it up so it was romantic because it was sheer when we first got it.'

      On the bright side, Sam at least got to travel overseas to New Zealand for her final episode, while Lana and Snez had to settle for another fancy house in Sydney.


      2DA8305000000578-3284170-image-a-25_1445499563571.jpg

      'We did our own alterations to it:' Stylist Charmaine De Pasquale says that altering the dress for Sam made it unique to her


How about they quit spending thousands on dresses and instead bring back better locations/dates and ditch the couch/wine/cheese/fruit repetitive crap next year?

Spending $20000 on a dress for Snez is just outrageous

Mind you - designers SHOULD be giving these dresses to them for the show to get their name/designs out there
Fair enough that Channel 10 pays them something for them but Channel 10 should set the amount they'll pay and then its up to the designers what they want to show on national tv to a massive audience in what comes down to "free" advertising


I don't think Sam would give 2 hoots whether her dress cost more/less than Snez - but I don't think she'd be thrilled to know it had been worn by someone else before on the sister show ... whether it had been "altered" or not
of all the designers in Australia who would be thrilled to have their designs showcased on National TV - this stylist needs her bum kicked for laziness that she couldn't find Sam a UNIQUE dress of her own for HER FINALE night

timthumb.php
2DA9270E00000578-0-image-a-2_1445552198490.jpg
 
Back
Top