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Hmm okay. Could be a pic of a friend, that has agreed he can use her pic for his GF ruse? lol Yeah it will be interesting to watch how it all pans out from now. If Sam totally backs off then I'll be convinced the GF is real.
Yeah but do you get what I'm saying though? Anyone can tell that sort of a story. What I'm asking is, is there any proof other than what comes out of Sams mouth?
I think a lot of people in the house don't understand people can be close friends and there not be more. So Sam being friends is apparently mixed messages. As no guy would ever be close to and friendly with a girl if he wasn't interested in a sexual way. That kind of non sense.
I think from Sam's point of view, he is probably just friendly like this on the outside but it's the 24 hour nature of BB which is the problem as there is no space or break. He can have his rock in there be a girl and it just be as friends.
I believe firmly that males and females can be just friends. Absolutely.
Sam however is extremely touchy feely to go along with this - I don't see him kissing, hugging, slapping the other guys on the butt.
Especially now he knows that Sandra has a crush on him, he needs to consider things like that.
cj93
Well-Known Member
She had a full blown tantrum in the bathroom.
This.
Dion for example - he's friends with girls in the house and you don't have to touch them. You can be friends without touching them, kissing them, calling them your 'house GF' etc. Massaging them on the couch, sleeping beside them... I don't blame her for getting mixed signals (from what we can see) but she should know enough to not get involved with a taken man.. Purely on the basis that if he can cheat on his GF, what makes her think he wouldn't do it to her in a heatbeat?
He may just be that way with female friends. Some people are more touchy feely than others.
I have given platonic friends massages and vice versa.
Also a lot of the touchy feely stuff is in the context of him trying to make her feel better. I think he's just in a bad spot and no one is prepared for how to deal with the 24 hour nature of this.
Also there is a whole feature of the official site of how Travis loves to cuddle with the girls.
He may very well be - I think now though he knows that Sandra may be getting the wrong idea he probably shouldn't continue without clearing it up.
Yeah I think we have to judge from now on. He undoubtedly has been made clear on the situation now. We saw nothing of him discussing that he is well aware. He was taken off guard by her comment and yeah.
I chose to give him the benefit of the doubt until now. From now on though...
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Kittty Kat
Guest
^^ This
Sam is just a genuinely nice guy. Although he does have a girlfriend on the outside, one of his best friends is a female. He is extremely comfortable around female company. He has two sisters, one close in age and some close female cousins.
All this talk of his "cheating" is ridiculous. Remember you are seeing a tiny bit fom 24 hours where there is controlled editing.
If you knew him personally, you'd have a very different opinion.
Sandra does need to back off and I think Sam will now try to find the right time to tell her to let her down nicely, like the nice guy he is.
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Kittty Kat
Guest
You are seeing 30 minutes from 24 hours. If the guys were up for it and he was comfortable with them, then yes, he probably would.
He is an affectionate guy who is very comfortable in his own skin.
I have no problem with that, as long as people are on the same page (which it seems like he thought they were) - now though he knows that she has feelings he has to be aware of how she's interpreting it as well though don't you think?
Incognito
Active Member
Sandra is a bit of a dreamer with her Mils & Boon collection, so I can easily see her wistful imagination getting the better of her and thinking she may be a lovelorn protagonist in her own books that falls in love with the taken guy but it all works out somehow.
Also, we're only seeing a drop in the ocean of interactions and what the producers deem to be the best narrative. We haven't seen Sam's reaction yet, and I think he is also being inappropriate, as has been noted by others with all the ambiguous physical affection.
Let's not be too quick to brand her with that scarlet letter just yet.
Also, we're only seeing a drop in the ocean of interactions and what the producers deem to be the best narrative. We haven't seen Sam's reaction yet, and I think he is also being inappropriate, as has been noted by others with all the ambiguous physical affection.
Let's not be too quick to brand her with that scarlet letter just yet.
I find it amusing how whenever the mysterious Ryan pops up he actually comes out with some non-word vomit shit.
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PublicHysteria
Guest
This ^^^
I honestly don't think Sam had any idea that Sandra had these feelings for him. I think all the stuff with her being his 'house girlfriend' and 'queen' is all just part of their friendship - they are extremely close and I can't imagine how hard it would be to be away from all of your loved ones and stuck with a bunch of strangers for so long; obviously close friendships like this will be made. One of the guys at work is my 'work hubby', but there is absolutely nothing romantic going on between either of us (both of us are in happy, committed, long term relationships). Sometimes extremely close friendships blossom quickly when you're together for such long periods of time - in BB's case, 24 hours a day every day.
And remember we're only seeing a half hour (if that) of an entire 24 hour block of time. We don't see Sam or Sandra interacting with the other housemates much, the producers of the show are editing to cause as much 'drama' as they possibly can. Nothing has actually happened between the two of them. Sandra has been acting inappropriately, but again, in such close quarters and shut off from everything, I can't really put myself in her position and even begin to understand what she's thinking. But most importantly, Sam hasn't cheated. I think this is just the type of guy he is, and he doesn't see his actions as being flirtatious, just friendly.
As others have said, now that Sam is aware it will be interesting to see how things play out. I think he's going to let her down gently, and explain that nothing can happen. He seems like a genuinely nice guy, and has just been trying to cheer Sandra up because she's in a really negative place right now. All of what is going on just seems to be a friendly person trying to help a friend out. I mean seriously, his face when she said 'you'll always belong to someone else' pretty much summed it all up. He was just like wtf, I really don't think he saw that coming at all. Just a clueless male.
I have a hard time buying everyone in the house knew about her blatant feelings but Sam, even with guys being oblivious sometimes, because the house talks. Now, he has no more excuses. So, absolutely, he'd have to be aware from now on. It will be interesting to see if things change. I doubt they will.
Another thing, about this idea that we only see parts. Nothing to do with what you wrote, Insomniac, just things I've read. Yes, we are all aware we only see parts. But, if I see someone punch someone else, in the little parts we get to see, do I not get to form an opinion on what I saw? If Sam were my boyfriend, do I not get to form an opinion based on the little bit I've seen and heard? Would most women ask Sandra for context, after seeing them interact and hearing what she's said to him, and sometimes him?
I appreciate some people are touchy feely. But, there is also a distinction with seeing your partner hug someone or rub someone's back and hearing private moments between them.
I also appreciate people giving insight about housemates they may know personally. However, people are voting off what they see. People are also judging/forming opinions based on their own standards for themselves. So, no one can take into account how they'd be off the show, because that's not most viewers reality. I can't imagine participants not realizing perception is damn near everything. It's not a new show. So, in Sam's case, why give people a reason to vote you off prematurely? Again, we'll see how it goes from here.
I don't know if anyone else has posted this, but I did a bit of a recon mission (as suggested by someone unnamed), and this is Sam's gf:
http://instagram.com/michaelamurray1
He's done VERY well for himself.
http://instagram.com/michaelamurray1
He's done VERY well for himself.
