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Rylangate - BBUK Live Feed Scandal (SPOILERS)

Kingston

Kingston

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I haven't been keeping up with the series, but given the controversy surrounding Rylan I thought I'd pop in to share my thoughts...

I have said previously that I don't see a need for CBB to fully adhere to the fundamental BB rules, as for me it is just mindless entertainment intended to fill a gap and lead in to the regular series... HOWEVER given what I just said, the producers need to be honest with their intentions... I have absolutely no problem with Rylan leaving the house to rehearse, however the fact that they've kept it hidden from us is completely unacceptable... The fact that the driver would give Rylan the time is another issue and makes me wonder exactly what other bits of information he picked up while he was outside the house... It also raise questions about other secret provisions other HM's (Celebrity or otherwise) are given while in the house...

When the live feed was not picked up by Channel 5, I was outraged but I figured that they at least had the integrity to do right by the viewers... I have a feeling that should a dedicated feed not return for the regular series, that sadly it's going to be the final nail in the BB coffin... Hopefully this story gets coverage in Australia, I think it's great leverage for fans to push for a reinstatement of the live feeds for their series...
 
I'm only posting this here because it's pretty relevant to BBAU and the Live Feed Debate...

Celebrity Big Brother: Rylan secretly exiting house for 'X Factor'

Celebrity Big Brother star Rylan Clark has been regularly leaving the house for X Factor tour rehearsals, according to former contestant Gillian Taylforth.

The ex-EastEnders actress, who was voted out of the show on Friday (January 18), made the revelation during an appearance on Channel 5's The Wright Stuff today (January 21), seemingly unaware that Clark's exits go against a major principle of the show - that contestants live in complete isolation.

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The ex-EastEnders actress, who was voted out of the show on Friday (January 18), made the revelation during an appearance on Channel 5's The Wright Stuff today (January 21), seemingly unaware that Clark's exits go against a major principle of the show - that contestants live in complete isolation.

Speaking on the programme about how housemates were not allowed to know the time, Taylforth said: "Rylan went out to do X Factor rehearsals... obviously he wasn't allowed to talk about it, but when he came back he'd just ask somebody the time very quickly like [his] driver, and we said to him when he'd get in, 'What's the time?'"

Meanwhile, Wright Stuff 'Mic Man' Eric Johnson claimed that Taylforth had confirmed the details to him about Rylan's secret exits.

"Recently evicted housemate just told me Rylan has been leaving the CBB house for XFactor tour rehearsals EVERY SUNDAY. Ooops!" he wrote on Twitter.

In the past, housemates who have broken out of the Big Brother compound and into the 'outside world' have not been permitted to return.

On rare occasions where contestants have been escorted out of the house, steps have been taken by the Big Brother production team to prevent them from being exposed to people and press coverage in the outside world.

Clark is the current favourite to win this series of Celebrity Big Brother, which comes to an end on Friday (January 25).

The X Factor tour begins the following evening at Manchester Arena.

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Channel 5 has since confirmed Taylforth's remarks, releasing the following statement: "Rylan has rehearsed for his tour on site with a choreographer, escorted by a Big Brother producer."

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s150...ylan-secretly-exiting-house-for-x-factor.html
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Another issue a lot of BB fans have brought up in relation to the Live Feed is that Big Brother Canada recently announced that they would offer their Live Feeds to fans completely free and with a heap of additional features... The Canadian version is very closely tied to the American version, and is highly regarded by both fans and the producers as an essential and integral component of the show...

Here are some links to articles that will give you a better insight:

http://www.bbspy.co.uk/cbb11/news/0116/big-brother-canada-to-have-free-live-feed

http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/big-brother-canada-gives-fans-180000443.html

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/big-brother-canada-live-stream-413348
 
They're obviously copping a lot of flack about this. They were at pains on BOTS to explain that he was only allowed out on two occasions to attend dance rehearsals 50 metres from the BB house and that he was under strict instructions not to discuss the show etc with anyone.

But let's face it that could all be bs... the HMs may all be staying in a five star hotel for all we know.

Anyway, how soon til this awful, awful season is over?
 
timmydownawell said:
They're obviously copping a lot of flack about this. They were at pains on BOTS to explain that he was only allowed out on two occasions to attend dance rehearsals 50 metres from the BB house and that he was under strict instructions not to discuss the show etc with anyone.

But let's face it that could all be bs... the HMs may all be staying in a five star hotel for all we know.

Anyway, how soon til this awful, awful season is over?
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I agree with you 100%... Now had you said this a year ago I would have been more inclined to disagree... I'm really hoping I'm right that without a live feed in the summer series, they've pretty much killed what little ratings they have... I'm also wondering if someone would be so kind as to give us a ratings rundown post Rylangate...
 
The CBB Aus season that Kyle Sandilands was in -each night he still continued to be on his radio show. They had a seperate room set up for him
 
Moved to International - I get why you posted it in the main forum but it does include a spoiler for those not quite up to date.

I've made my views known about it in various places over the last couple of days - should never have happened and C5 know that otherwise they wouldn't have covered it up. They still don't seem to understand why it's wrong (their defence is along the lines of "it's in his contract!"), and Lacey has revealed today all HMs were sworn to secrecy on it.
 
In Aus CBB at least they didn't hide the fact that Kyle was still doing his radio show and they had intruders and houseguests coming and going every 2nd day that who knows what the Celebs were finding out from the outside world. I know they were trying to explain it away on BOTS, but they were so flippant about it - "its all good, it was only 50 metres away" etc etc. To me that wasn't the point, it was that they tried to hide it from viewers is what I'm more annoyed about.
 
erinstar said:
In Aus CBB at least they didn't hide the fact that Kyle was still doing his radio show and they had intruders and houseguests coming and going every 2nd day that who knows what the Celebs were finding out from the outside world. I know they were trying to explain it away on BOTS, but they were so flippant about it - "its all good, it was only 50 metres away" etc etc. To me that wasn't the point, it was that they tried to hide it from viewers is what I'm more annoyed about.
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Quoted for truth... This just goes to show exactly how Channel 5 view both the show and the viewers... That being said the stance on the viewer side of the argument that it "violates" fundamental rules isn't helping... I can't argue that it doesn't, but the argument is just as you've said that Channel 5 was clearly deceiving and manipulating it's audience... Channel 5 can be as flippant as they want in regards to whether or not Rylan should have been allowed to leave in the first place, one of the fundamental rules also states that BB can change the rules at any time...

Does OFCOM have any grounds to go after Channel 5 for this? They clearly can't force Channel 5 to bring back a live feed and I'm not normally one that likes OFCOM getting involved in BB business, but Channel 5 deserve a good slap for this...
 
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But don't you think what has gone on prior has played a part in the uproar? The most recent season knowing Conor and the like had done stuff and it hadn't aired and hadn't been published, housemates mentioned stuff after they got out. Same as Jay shitting in the freezer, that wasn't common knowledge until an ex housemate mentioned it without realising. Stuff has been covered up for the past several seasons and people are jack of it! They treat viewers like fools. If they'd been more transparent in previous seasons there wouldn't be that much of a fuss about Rylan going 50 metres to sing or dance or whatever it does.

Blah I haven't watched this season. I'm glad.
 
Exactly! That is the point that I'm trying to make, it bothers me more that the producers are trying to hide it, than the fact that Rylan needs to leave the house for rehearsals, i completely understand why he would need to. If the producers has explained the situation at the beginning of the series, i would be a little bit more forgiving because now, i'm wondering what else they are covering up? No wonder people start to think a chef comes in and cook them dinner each night or that the celebs don't even sleep in the house!
 
Cowie said:
But don't you think what has gone on prior has played a part in the uproar? The most recent season knowing Conor and the like had done stuff and it hadn't aired and hadn't been published, housemates mentioned stuff after they got out. Same as Jay shitting in the freezer, that wasn't common knowledge until an ex housemate mentioned it without realising. Stuff has been covered up for the past several seasons and people are jack of it! They treat viewers like fools. If they'd been more transparent in previous seasons there wouldn't be that much of a fuss about Rylan going 50 metres to sing or dance or whatever it does.

Blah I haven't watched this season. I'm glad.
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I really don't have much to say on the Jay/Freezer/Shit incident because I don't really care to... However I honestly believe that if it did in fact happen, it wouldn't have gone unpunished and therefore whether or not Channel 5 tried to hide it or not is irrelevant... They made the right decision in that respect... It didn't affect the shows outcome and this type of thing has no place on TV... Real or not...

The Connor/Deena saga is another story... People forget that the underlying theme of BB is that it is intended to represent society in a fish bowl environment... While we should make every attempt to oppose bullying, it is often a buzz word that is both overused and often used incorrectly... Anyone that actually believe that there was any genuine intent to cause Deena any real physical harm needs their head examined... Bullying happens all the time in the real world and therefore as an exaggeration of real life, it is only natural that such incidents would happen in the BB world... I truly believe that Deena was just as instrumental in provoking Connor as well as hamming things up for the cameras... Channel 5 aside from leaving out portions that were deemed unacceptable for TV broadcast, really did nothing to deliberately deceive viewers... Anyone who doesn't watch the show with a clear understanding that virtually every event that is included in the daily show is edited in one way or another perhaps shouldn't be watching the show... As I said before an act of human nature, that occurs on a show about human interaction should be no reason to complain to a TV regulatory body...

Basically what I'm getting at is that there is no correlation between Rylangate and either of those incidents...
 
erinstar said:
No wonder people start to think a chef comes in and cook them dinner each night or that the celebs don't even sleep in the house!
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I think those assumptions are blowing things WAY to far out of proportion... Channel 5 may be a lot of things but I believe they still have some integrity... It would be a logistical nightmare if the HM's were being shuffled back and forth from the house to an off site hotel on a daily basis... If that were the case I'm 100% certain such information would have leaked a long time ago... As for the crap about a chef cooking dinner on a daily basis... Given that Channel 5 seem to enjoy pimping cross promotion and special guests, I think it would be insane to suggest that they'd do something like this under the viewers noses...
 
Kingston said:
I think those assumptions are blowing things WAY to far out of proportion... Channel 5 may be a lot of things but I believe they still have some integrity... It would be a logistical nightmare if the HM's were being shuffled back and forth from the house to an off site hotel on a daily basis... If that were the case I'm 100% certain such information would have leaked a long time ago... As for the crap about a chef cooking dinner on a daily basis... Given that Channel 5 seem to enjoy pimping cross promotion and special guests, I think it would be insane to suggest that they'd do something like this under the viewers noses...
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I'm joking - even i think those rumours are ridiculous!!! But given what we know they have hidden from viewers, you can't blame us for wondering what we are missing!
 
erinstar said:
I'm joking - even i think those rumours are ridiculous!!! But given what we know they have hidden from viewers, you can't blame us for wondering what we are missing!
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I figured that... My comments weren't really directed at you personally but I'm just saying... I have my own doubts that everything they've done to date has been on the level, however some people have really just let their imaginations get the best of them...
 
Kingston said:
I'm really surprised the Australian media haven't picked up the story at all... This is great leverage for Australian fans to argue for a reinstatement of their own live feed...
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I would love the Australian media to pick it up, but unfortunately they don't even really care about our local season, let alone international, be great if [MENTION=1]Tim[/MENTION] and co could do a story and possibly even David from TVTonight, then maybe mainstream media might take some notice!
 
This is what I said in the BBSPYUK comments and I pretty much stand by them.

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Is it really that bad?

BB has always manipulated and twisted each series…
The old “Big Brother holds the rights to change the rules at any time” theory always applies.

As the dreaded Speidi would say “Its just a game”
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Meh. I just don't get invested in the Celebrity version except character wise...

I think Rylan was pretty much the favourite from day one so IMO his leaving the house didn't really have much of an impact in the short bursts that he did.

It has to be realised that all *reality* shows are manipulated by the producers and editors. They place people in certain tasks for certain reasons so people see the character that they expect. They desperately wanted a character who was incredibly "current" in his popularity and were willing to stretch the rules to accommodate him.
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