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Michael's perception of himself...

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Christina said:
Yeah, I've already mentioned the booze factor. Estelle was definitely a little pissed and very merry in the diary room after the post nom drinks.
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I knew I had read the booze, and I think you may just be correct.
 
la`cat said:
I knew I had read the booze, and I think you may just be correct.
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Yeah, at first I thought it might have been strategy on Mikey's part but nah, I just reckon they were both on a bit of an emotional high after the friend/family visit and may have drunk a little more than usual as a result.
 
TMoney said:
... I don't know who he thinks he is. But he seems to be disgusted by any girl who shows him any attention or romantic interest. He needs to get a grip. He is so far from being attractive it isn't even funny. Its also a little pathetic when people rate themselves a little too highly looks and personality wise!
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I agree. I never found him attractive at all, in fact the opposite. IMO he is also nasty in his bitchiness.
 
Christina said:
Yeah, at first I thought it might have been strategy on Mikey's part but nah, I just reckon they were both on a bit of an emotional high after the friend/family visit and may have drunk a little more than usual as a result.
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If that's the case, and booze played a part in starting all this, it could well be that the next morning Michael woke up thinking OMG what have I done, but Estelle woke up thinking hey, that was nice.

It would explain why she continues to cuddle up to him (as she did on the lounge outside). She should know he can't be trusted but still, Michael is being completely uncouth and passive-aggressive by allowing it to continue whilst bitching to Ben & Stacey about it.

That is, unless Estelle is completely aware of what's going on and is just fucking with them. IDK, she's not made any real strategic moves before now so it goes against the general perception of her, but it would be good to know that this is her strategy: that messing with Michael's mind will cause the power group to disintegrate.
 
If that's the case, and booze played a part in starting all this, it could well be that the next morning Michael woke up thinking OMG what have I done, but Estelle woke up thinking hey, that was nice.


For sure. I definitely see it that way.
Don't think Estelle knows how to strategize....
 
Michael's trying to play all sides of the fence - not wanting to reject Estelle's desire to spoon, and not wanting his clique to think he's being nice to Estelle. All he's doing is making himself look like an idiot. Genius my arse.
 
Last nights footage gave me the biggest laughs of the series. Bens head popping up like a meerkat on crack, trying to see what Michael and Estelle were doing in bed, and the tweet that appeared when michael was saying he regretted it, saying that Michael should go for it as he was "punching above his weight".
 
Last nights footage gave me the biggest laughs of the series. Bens head popping up like a meerkat on crack, trying to see what Michael and Estelle were doing in bed

;) Yeah, that was a classic.
And then the next day Ben feigned innocence to Mike and Stacey by pretending he didn't know that they had been spooning.

Yeah, right!
 
Yumq said:
Michael is clearly conflicted about Estelle though. When they cuddled in bed he was certainly touchy-feely - we saw him stroking her hair and her arm, and he was the one we saw motioning to Estelle to come over to join him in his bed. The guy's a fuckwit. If he is so turned-off by the whole thing - as he keeps telling Stacey & Ben - then he should just back off from Estelle, just tell her he doesn't want to keep cuddling. She would be totally cool with it.
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I find it interesting that he lied to the others about how the spooning came about. He clearly gave Estelle the okay to move over into the bed with him. But he explained to Zoe that it was because Estelle was worried about unwanted house guests turning up in the night. I am not sure exactly what is going on there.
 
aieee said:
You stated in your original post ANY girl, ANY girl refers to ANY girl. You also stated he SEEMS to be disgusted by ANY girl, which would indicate a wider sampling than those in the house, since apparently you are Nostradamus and a fine back-pedaller. So no, Nostradamus, it's related. It's also completely related since it's extrapolating from your original assertion which was this:

So failing to reciprocate 'romantic interest' = 'rating oneself highly'.

By your reckoning, since Michael is so far from being attractive it isn't even funny he should therefore be a) grateful for all romantic interest and/or attention and b) reciprocate that romantic interest and/or attention. In the Big Brother house. In a laundromat. In a police line-up. On an internet forum.

PS http://thesaurus.com/browse/pathetic?s=t (some alternative insults for you, because you're dead right, if there was a drinking game for 'pathetic' after reading your posts I would be sloshed)
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" ANY girl, ANY girl refers to ANY girl." What a terrible generalisation, neither of us know Michael besides for the snippets of him in Big Brother. So clearly the statement was regarding the Big Brother house and the women within it. You quite obviously have taken this way out of context which proves your idiocy. Trying to type "witty" discussions on a forum...... pathetic. Its the internet. Relax and stay on topic.
 
he THINKS he is smart with a big IQ, we KNOW he is stupid, pathetic, dirty, rude,revolting , and perhaps a bit of a liar ,that being in a way he will say what suits him.
 
TMoney said:
... I don't know who he thinks he is. But he seems to be disgusted by any girl who shows him any attention or romantic interest. He needs to get a grip. He is so far from being attractive it isn't even funny. Its also a little pathetic when people rate themselves a little too highly looks and personality wise!
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He has very low self esteem. I am no Michael fan any longer but it is pretty clear. That or he is really gay.
 
aieee said:
Ok. Try this. Ugly Michael is on a train. Random woman gropes him. Since Michael is so unattractive it isn't even funny, he should be honoured by that attention and romantic interest.
Better? That's a completely related example, in the context of exactly what you said.
PS Is there a drinking game for 'pathetic'?
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You certainly are not a straight guy. If you were you would know that no straight man would repulsively freak out if a girl who looked like Estelle whom they did not know got touchy feely with their thigh. Just wouldn't happen.
 
marksman said:
You certainly are not a straight guy. If you were you would know that no straight man would repulsively freak out if a girl who looked like Estelle whom they did not know got touchy feely with their thigh. Just wouldn't happen.
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That's a pretty broad generalisation right there ^^^

A lot of men would be taken a back if that happened to them. Estelle is very good looking, nice body ect, but any woman comes up to a man on a train and starts doing that then she's either a hooker or its a con.
 
TMoney said:
What a terrible generalisation, neither of us know Michael besides for the snippets of him in Big Brother.
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Ohhhhhhhhhhh...I see. So let me get this straight then. You know nothing about Michael 'besides the snippets of him in Big Brother' but you generalise that he is 'disgusted' by any girl who gives him attention and/or romantic attention. You also know he rates himself highly on his looks and personality due to your bona fide scientific psychoanaylsis via the snippets from BB.


In the words of yourself...what a terrible generalisation!

PS Speaking of idiocy...your original post.
 
marksman said:
You certainly are not a straight guy. If you were you would know that no straight man would repulsively freak out if a girl who looked like Estelle whom they did not know got touchy feely with their thigh. Just wouldn't happen.
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Slotting everyone into neat little boxes. Spoiler alert: not everyone is the same. Michael didn't repulsively freak out. He did not freak out at all with her in fact. What he did do was speak privately to his close friend about it making him uncomfortable, about feeling terrible.
 
aieee said:
Slotting everyone into neat little boxes. Spoiler alert: not everyone is the same. Michael didn't repulsively freak out. He did not freak out at all with her in fact. What he did do was speak privately to his close friend about it making him uncomfortable, about feeling terrible.
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Actually it was a humble brag and Michael is full of it.

Michael has had a crush on Stacey and since he saw her boyfriend felt inferior so brought up the Estelle thing to put it in Stacey's face. We don't even know if Estelle did anything.

For all we know Estelle scratched herself, brushed Michael, and Michael popped wood

By the way your reply was totally out of context of the conversation.
 
so Michael's secret was that he was a gay sex worker. What a disgusting slob

That probably explains why he is growing his ass, tits and hair, so he can continue the work when he gets out of the house.
 
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