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If people in the forum are calling HMs out for playing both side or fence sitting, or under the radar etc, please give examples, Good ones, and preferably more than one because a one off isn't a pattern.
The HMs like Jane are calling these things out without giving examples. I tend to think they were just using buzz words not actually noticing specific things.
 
Affable said:
Yeah… I’m not buying that. We have Alannah who does the exact same thing as him by jumping into the mediator role, sitting on the fence, and actively playing both sides, but yet nothing.

It is clear what the agenda by those criticising him here is.
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I fully see what you are saying. But I actually do see Alana in a similar way I see Vinnie, actively playing both sides. She just has better cover for it behind the "mum" thing, with more life experience too. Emily comes across as just not caring, whether or not it is fake. We will have to agree to disagree but something about Vinnie just comes across as more disingenuous to me personally. He is young, open about wanting to be famous, open about wanting to win. Nothing wrong with that but it does rub some people the wrong way compared to Emily and Alana who have never said that (even if they have thought it)
 
Conor to me is the biggest game player there.
He knows his tourettes is going to garner him positive and negative interest, this is just a fact.
So last night after evictions, he walked the garden speaking to himself (and the however many listeners on the live stream) as he methodically went through his list of who is left and what he thinks of them.
Now doing so in solitude outside means none of the others knows what he really thinks but all the voting viewers do and he could plant seeds of doubt about people using HIS theories/views. And everyone knows there are gullible people who will see something on TV and believe it to be true, even subconsciously.
So when he said that Vinnie was a game player, without anything to back that up because why would he explain 'to himself' I wonder how many people picked up on that? He too is just labeling people for the sake of the game.
He then went back inside and was nice to people he just cut down in his soliloquy.

And if that my fellow forumers is what a two faced game player looks like!
 
Brumbee said:
Conor to me is the biggest game player there.
He knows his tourettes is going to garner him positive and negative interest, this is just a fact.
So last night after evictions, he walked the garden speaking to himself (and the however many listeners on the live stream) as he methodically went through his list of who is left and what he thinks of them.
Now doing so in solitude outside means none of the others knows what he really thinks but all the voting viewers do and he could plant seeds of doubt about people using HIS theories/views. And everyone knows there are gullible people who will see something on TV and believe it to be true, even subconsciously.
So when he said that Vinnie was a game player, without anything to back that up because why would he explain 'to himself' I wonder how many people picked up on that? He too is just labeling people for the sake of the game.
He then went back inside and was nice to people he just cut down in his soliloquy.

And if that my fellow forumers is what a two faced game player looks like!
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So true!
 
Brumbee said:
Conor to me is the biggest game player there.
He knows his tourettes is going to garner him positive and negative interest, this is just a fact.
So last night after evictions, he walked the garden speaking to himself (and the however many listeners on the live stream) as he methodically went through his list of who is left and what he thinks of them.
Now doing so in solitude outside means none of the others knows what he really thinks but all the voting viewers do and he could plant seeds of doubt about people using HIS theories/views. And everyone knows there are gullible people who will see something on TV and believe it to be true, even subconsciously.
So when he said that Vinnie was a game player, without anything to back that up because why would he explain 'to himself' I wonder how many people picked up on that? He too is just labeling people for the sake of the game.
He then went back inside and was nice to people he just cut down in his soliloquy.

And if that my fellow forumers is what a two faced game player looks like!
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He is a massive game player. After Vinnie took the money people were talking about how Coner just feels entitled or something to winning the show.

Vinnie is also a massive game player though. He does have a level of fakeness. He is playing up more and doing bits for the camera. In conversations on the live stream he seems very much aware he's on camera. Often says things, catches himself. Walks them back.
 
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