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Is Jades behaviour disturbing?

AM_092 said:
It takes two to tango. Ed's a loser. He can't even draw the line for himself, let alone Jade. She's foolish, but he's the one leading her on!
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In what way has he led her on?

I dont watch live feeds or tweets so maybe i missed something

I can only go by whats on the daily show
 
The10thDoctor said:
Was the whole bed talk the time when Ed took jade outside at night for a chat? I think he made is very clear.


I can only relate it back to when i was 20. there was a girl who liked me a lot. I also liked her a lot, but couldnt go there due to me not a good person at the time. I told her i wasnt interested even though we both knew differently. We managed to stay great friends and hugged a lot and was very close..and she never harrassed me for more.

Ed is doing what i did - didnt cut her off and kept her as a close mate.
A mature Adult like Jade should be able to see that and handle it. But she isnt. And thats whats disturbing.

If it was the other way 'round then the general public would be up in arms.

Maybe Ed does need to be tougher..but im guessing he has never faced this situation before and doesnt know how to handle it. I am wondering wether the BB psychologist needs to intervene before Jade gets out of hand and makes her situation worse.

I do think Drew needs to man up and act like a friend and say something
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No Way!! Sorry (not sure if your trolling here) but I think you are seriously reaching to make what Jade is doing out as that bad.

Agree Jade should have figured it out but she hasn't. Ed can clearly set the matter straight by a firm 'Look I'm not interested so please stop cuddling up to me etc' until he does that he is leaving the door open and he knows it. If tables were turned and it was a guy coming onto a girl the girl would most likely give a firm NO earlier on in the piece (we all learn the necessity of that from an early age).

Its illogical to me to bag Jade for her actions 'as an Adult' but the give leeway to Ed who is 4 years older by saying 'maybe he hasn't experienced it before'. Maybe Jade hasn't experienced having such an infatuation before.

Maybe Bb psychologist should take Ed aside and have a chat to him about communication skills
 
Interesting how no one thinks this might be a strategy for her. She obviously is well aware of how she is perceived as being a beautiful model. What better way to gain sympathy from the public than to be the poor rejected girl.
 
The10thDoctor said:
Was the whole bed talk the time when Ed took jade outside at night for a chat? I think he made is very clear.


I can only relate it back to when i was 20. there was a girl who liked me a lot. I also liked her a lot, but couldnt go there due to me not a good person at the time. I told her i wasnt interested even though we both knew differently. We managed to stay great friends and hugged a lot and was very close..and she never harrassed me for more.

Ed is doing what i did - didnt cut her off and kept her as a close mate.
A mature Adult like Jade should be able to see that and handle it. But she isnt. And thats whats disturbing.

If it was the other way 'round then the general public would be up in arms.

Maybe Ed does need to be tougher..but im guessing he has never faced this situation before and doesnt know how to handle it. I am wondering wether the BB psychologist needs to intervene before Jade gets out of hand and makes her situation worse.

I do think Drew needs to man up and act like a friend and say something
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But we agree in Drew! I was starting to lose respect for Drew as being too much of a pussy ...but his argument with Tully has helped and now he could try being a decent friend to Jade.
 
Chump said:
No Way!! Sorry (not sure if your trolling here) but I think you are seriously reaching to make what Jade is doing out as that bad.

Agree Jade should have figured it out but she hasn't. Ed can clearly set the matter straight by a firm 'Look I'm not interested so please stop cuddling up to me etc' until he does that he is leaving the door open and he knows it. If tables were turned and it was a guy coming onto a girl the girl would most likely give a firm NO earlier on in the piece (we all learn the necessity of that from an early age).

Its illogical to me to bag Jade for her actions 'as an Adult' but the give leeway to Ed who is 4 years older by saying 'maybe he hasn't experienced it before'. Maybe Jade hasn't experienced having such an infatuation before.

Maybe Bb psychologist should take Ed aside and have a chat to him about communication skills
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So the Victim is to blame?

The only thing Ed should maybe do is be stronger....

Perhaps i missed him continually stalking her and her telling him no?
if i did miss that, then im happy to admit that Jade is in the right for pursuing someone who has knocked her back..

Oh, and contrary opinions dont equal trolling. Please dont attack me like that as it is not needed
 
Chump said:
No Way!! Sorry (not sure if your trolling here) but I think you are seriously reaching to make what Jade is doing out as that bad.

Agree Jade should have figured it out but she hasn't. Ed can clearly set the matter straight by a firm 'Look I'm not interested so please stop cuddling up to me etc' until he does that he is leaving the door open and he knows it. If tables were turned and it was a guy coming onto a girl the girl would most likely give a firm NO earlier on in the piece (we all learn the necessity of that from an early age).

Its illogical to me to bag Jade for her actions 'as an Adult' but the give leeway to Ed who is 4 years older by saying 'maybe he hasn't experienced it before'. Maybe Jade hasn't experienced having such an infatuation before.

Maybe Bb psychologist should take Ed aside and have a chat to him about communication skills
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd-22sVAryY
 
The10thDoctor said:
So the Victim is to blame?

The only thing Ed should maybe do is be stronger....

Perhaps i missed him continually stalking her and her telling him no?
if i did miss that, then im happy to admit that Jade is in the right for pursuing someone who has knocked her back..

Oh, and contrary opinions dont equal trolling. Please dont attack me like that as it is not needed
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That truly wasn't intended as an attack hence I put it in brackets and said 'not sure'. I'm just honestly flabbergasted by your views so had to wonder if I was being taken for a ride. I haven't had my morning coffee yet so my gullibility levels are high!

To be honest Im still flabbergasted because you are now calling Ed a victim! Well this post calls for a coffee! :o
 
The10thDoctor said:
In what way has he led her on?

I dont watch live feeds or tweets so maybe i missed something

I can only go by whats on the daily show
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Ah... He agreed to share a bed for the night with her, and in the morning, had his arms around her. While they were in their undies. Seems like a pretty big sign to me.
 
Chump said:
That truly wasn't intended as an attack hence I put it in brackets and said 'not sure'. I'm just honestly flabbergasted by your views so had to wonder if I was being taken for a ride. I haven't had my morning coffee yet so my gullibility levels are high!

To be honest Im still flabbergasted because you are now calling Ed a victim! Well this post calls for a coffee! :o
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Don't bother arguing with this one, deep seated issues.
 
The10thDoctor said:
It was a couple weeks ago when he took her outside and said he wasnt interested in whatever..it was after that that she seemed to have some issue with not accepting rejection

As for her not being a good person...she may very well have nice qualities, but the discovery of these isnt part of a sexual harrasment discussion.


As for germaine Greer and her ilk... I am friends with a number of prominent feminists. Two of them work for Melbourne radio and are well known people. One thing they fight for is equality for women and men. People like Greer want this equality and more. She fights for womens rights which is good, but then she doesnt care who gets hurt in the process. The fight should be for ALL people to be equal. She doesnt want equality
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Did you get banned again?
 
Chump said:
Righto .... And thanks

So many posters to become familiar with. Trying to keep some form of sanity in the world is quite the full time job.
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Haha yeah.
Also thinks Tahan is supposedly a horrible person for wanting a hairdryer:/
 
Sorceress said:
Go and watch the video of Ed kissing Jade (not in the least pulling away), then tangling himself with her under the covers.....sexual harassment my arse, you embarrass yourself.
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I agree!

I think some people in here wouldn't recognise true sexual harassment if they had their panties pulled down and were publicly spanked on their bare arse by their boss.

It amazes me that some people in here don't have their own life experiences to draw on. Surely most can identify. I know full well what it feels like to be Jade ie be the adoree of the man who is not interested, and I also know what it is like to be in Ed's position and have an adorer who dribbles after me in pathetic lusty love.

Neither can be deemed as sexual harassment, it is in fact normal human interaction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
It would be interesting to know if Ed is this wishy washy in his attempts to give a clear message to someone on the outside world, or is it just massive camera awareness in the house. He took Jade outside for a private word the night of the sharing a bed debacle....and awkwardly and half heartedly tried to get the words out... its not happening. The message seemed to get through at the time....she even said the next day how she felt dumped.

Had that been me...... I would have been cringing on the inside, mortified, humiliated, but smiling on the outside.. saying... no problem.... and that would have been that. Under no circumstances would I have gone in a second time. Then the second time came.... the lying on his chest while he lay on the sofa... arms so far behind his head in case he touched her. On the one hand she told him she respected his boundaries (while lying on his chest !!!!) and then told him that should he initiate anything , she would not push him away. :eek: Cringefactor off the charts. !!

Third time was the night the guys spoke of how she got into bed withe Ed and he was lying so close to the edge of the bed he nearly fell off. Desperately trying to keep the physical distance as far as he could.

The fourth time was up there with number 2...... the man was in a single bed.... as good as asleep.... when Jade comes by. She just got into that bed with him without as much as a do you mind..... or can I...... !!! At this point Ed faked his own death .....and no amount of giggle giggle... wake up... wake up... tell me a story was going to revive him. After another mortifying episode... she eventually retreated out of the bed and back to Heidi.

Now......when a beautiful blond model slides into bed next to a hunky man.... and the man prefers to fake his own death rather than even turn around to face her......you have to start thinking........ Could it possibly be that this man is not interested in me !!!!!!!

For some inexplicable reason this simple logic is not happening with Jade. Again and again and again.... she goes in to be rejected over and over again. It could be said that the worst she is guilty of is fancying a man and just deciding to try over and over and over.. in the hope that he will give in. For a beautiful girl who should be full to the brim of confidence... .she simply displays massive insecurity and neediness. its continuing because of the lack of any presence of a spinal cord in Ed.....the man is so vertebrally challenged, its a wonder he can stand up unaided at all.

So.. misguided..needy and insecure yes... disturbing no.... That tag belongs to the Tully/Drew behaviour ! I still think overall Jade is a lovely girl...not bitchy at all... tries her best and hopefully will stay at next eviction
 
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