Twitchstix
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Also I noticed her friend Katie seemed a bit tired today.
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Housemate #5 TULLY!
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Hope4Rain
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riddled with anxiety. it don't seem as if she WANTS to be there at all.
oddjob
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Can't imagine anyone wants that job right now, but good on her for supporting a friend.
Twitchstix
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Honestly I have a lot of respect for her in supporting Tully despite all the flak she is receiving atm, I find it quite refreshing to see.
yukikodancer
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This! It must be so hard to get someone to represent Tully. Her mum doesn't know who she is, her dad would be under way too much stress. Her girlfriend has dumped her. Someone has to be there to stand up under enormous pressure. I think Katie deserves a medal. And a stiff drink.
That's what true friends do
Tully's behavior is not what make her friends and ex girl friend suffer. The public moralistic attitude is responsible for the hurt.
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Hope4Rain
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If there is a Joan of Arc award of the year, I say we vote for her, cause DANG! She was shakey but was there~
Plus, Tully chose to go on tv, not her poor friend. She was there despite what she'd seen, and the thought of copping it simply for being Tully's friend would be so intimidating. It was brave of her and you could tell that she didn't want to justify or explain Tully, she just wanted to be there for her.
GalPal
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That's what true friends do
Tully's behavior is not what make her friends and ex girl friend suffer. The public moralistic attitude is responsible for the hurt.
So true. I admire her.....friends through thick and thin.
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In regards to friends not noticing this sort of behaviour... This is quite personal, and definitely does not paint me in a good light. I'm not trying to give Tully a diagnosis, but I thought sharing this might show that sometimes outside of that particular situation a person can seem, for all intents and purposes, quite normal and well adjusted, but be batshit crazy within it...
I've spoken a couple of times about how I have BPD (borderline personality disorder), and in general I have always been prone to depression, but that full blown crazy that is almost identical to Tully's behaviour only came out in romantic - usually unrequited or instances where it was never going to work out for whatever reason. I had this one particular friend who I was obsessed with, and that obsession largely came about because there were unrequited feelings and I could not let that go. If he had feelings for me, chances are I would have forgotten about him in an instant. While we didn't have the touchy feely relationship, he was a VERY nice but insecure man, and did care about me. I started being able to confide in him things that I'd kept long buried and he listened and didn't judge and I came to completely depend on him for any sort of validation. Over time he and I grew very close, I would get jealous over the smallest thing and absolutely crack it, make threats (suicide, not always a manipulation tactic, sometimes it genuinely did feel like I could not cope without his undivided attention.) I somehow made him feel like I was the person who cared about him most in the world and like he would not know what to do without me in his life. He was constantly apologising for upsetting me. Almost identical to what I see happening with Drew and Tully. He was not the first that I behaved like this towards, but he was the first that actually bought into it and didn't just tell me to fuck off. It wasn't necessarily a conscious decision to manipulate him, but it was manipulation nonetheless and it worked. The thing is, I have friends that I have known for 15+ years, and I'm close to, but they've never seen me like that. It's not a conscious decision, but I've always tended towards being like that around people (men) that have no connection with my friends/family. All the while I knew what I was doing was wrong whenever I took a step back from it (and then I'd self harm due to hatred at my behaviour) but I had such poor emotional regulation that when I was around this person (and the men that came before him) I was overpowered by irrational emotional responses. It took a long time and a lot of therapy and medication trials for me to be able to break that and be able to have some sense if control over my emotions and responses, and whenever I've spoken to people that have known me (my family, friends) they are go smacked at my diagnosis because they've NEVER seen that behaviour.
So it doesn't surprise me that Tully's friends and family may not have seen this behaviour before, but I'd be very surprised if this is the first time it's come about. I'm not saying she is exactly like me or has the same diagnosis, but it's clear to me that she's troubled and doesn't surprise me that people close to her may not have noticed (or noticed the extent of it).
Ps. I hope all of that actually made sense!
I've spoken a couple of times about how I have BPD (borderline personality disorder), and in general I have always been prone to depression, but that full blown crazy that is almost identical to Tully's behaviour only came out in romantic - usually unrequited or instances where it was never going to work out for whatever reason. I had this one particular friend who I was obsessed with, and that obsession largely came about because there were unrequited feelings and I could not let that go. If he had feelings for me, chances are I would have forgotten about him in an instant. While we didn't have the touchy feely relationship, he was a VERY nice but insecure man, and did care about me. I started being able to confide in him things that I'd kept long buried and he listened and didn't judge and I came to completely depend on him for any sort of validation. Over time he and I grew very close, I would get jealous over the smallest thing and absolutely crack it, make threats (suicide, not always a manipulation tactic, sometimes it genuinely did feel like I could not cope without his undivided attention.) I somehow made him feel like I was the person who cared about him most in the world and like he would not know what to do without me in his life. He was constantly apologising for upsetting me. Almost identical to what I see happening with Drew and Tully. He was not the first that I behaved like this towards, but he was the first that actually bought into it and didn't just tell me to fuck off. It wasn't necessarily a conscious decision to manipulate him, but it was manipulation nonetheless and it worked. The thing is, I have friends that I have known for 15+ years, and I'm close to, but they've never seen me like that. It's not a conscious decision, but I've always tended towards being like that around people (men) that have no connection with my friends/family. All the while I knew what I was doing was wrong whenever I took a step back from it (and then I'd self harm due to hatred at my behaviour) but I had such poor emotional regulation that when I was around this person (and the men that came before him) I was overpowered by irrational emotional responses. It took a long time and a lot of therapy and medication trials for me to be able to break that and be able to have some sense if control over my emotions and responses, and whenever I've spoken to people that have known me (my family, friends) they are go smacked at my diagnosis because they've NEVER seen that behaviour.
So it doesn't surprise me that Tully's friends and family may not have seen this behaviour before, but I'd be very surprised if this is the first time it's come about. I'm not saying she is exactly like me or has the same diagnosis, but it's clear to me that she's troubled and doesn't surprise me that people close to her may not have noticed (or noticed the extent of it).
Ps. I hope all of that actually made sense!
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Queen Alla
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No worries
In typical BPD fashion I've brought the whole thing back to myself 
but I'm finding the parallels between Tully and Drew and me and this person almost unbelievable. I've found it quite confronting to watch on many levels. I really dislike Tully and HATE her behaviour, but then I reflect and it's almost exactly the same as I was which is quite confronting. And then I've been 'the Drew' in the situation with another person and I remember SO clearly how that felt and it nearly destroyed. People will probably laugh because its 'just' Big Brother, but I've found it confronting on many personal levels and its bringing up a lot of different emotions for me and connecting a lot of dots in regards to my own experiences. I waver between feeling an intense hatred toward Tully (more likely what she represents of myself and of the person who treated me like that) and then a desperate sadness for her that she's like that and I remember what it felt like on that end too. Very confusing for me and I think I need to step back from it for a while, because while her behaviour is disturbing, I'm sure I'm projecting personal experiences on to her character as well.
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She could have just lived most of her life in that little bubble of hers where she can shut out anything that's not cool enough for her at the moment and pick and choose who she interacts with. Now Tully adventured out and right into a really challenging place where she can't choose anything and the people aren't chosen to cater to her, she has no base and can't just ignore everything. It's easy to be all sunshine and rainbows when things go your way for the most part.
She's lucky to be Australian, though. This version of the show seems to cast pretty tame people, can you imagine Tully in this year's BBUK or BBUS? Especially the women(because she doesn't seem to make friends with them) would put her in her place or rip her apart.
She's lucky to be Australian, though. This version of the show seems to cast pretty tame people, can you imagine Tully in this year's BBUK or BBUS? Especially the women(because she doesn't seem to make friends with them) would put her in her place or rip her apart.
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gleeful83
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Very insightful............
lafirenze
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Yes? If that's what you find beautiful, you clearly aren't surrounded by beautiful people lol.
No wonder she is still around.. she is just too funny and entertaining to watch a trainwreck in the making
p.s. notice the devils horns between her eyebrows (noticed by some tweeters)
UGH. Every time she cries when someone ELSE leaves, I want to punch her in the face!
crispypotato
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i wonder if they had to draw straws cos no one wanted to go and poor Katie got the short straw
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