Housemate #5 TULLY!

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BBfan- said:
Yes I'm very aware by now that you don't like cheating. :rolleyes:
I just don't see how it ruins your viewing experience. I would understand if it was you that Tully was cheating on but do you really have that much empathy for Tahlia, someone you've seen for 2 seconds on TV and a few of her tweets, that you can't enjoy watching Big Brother anymore because she's being cheated on?
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As you said you have never been cheated on yourself. Wait until you have then we can discuss about this as you can't possibily understand it until you experince it yourself. I hope you won't ever have to experince it though but in this world it is unlikely unfortunately.
 
fivecougars said:
I just cannot respect either Tully or Drew when they both know Tully is in effect cheating on her (now-apparently-ex) girlfriend
They're both in the wrong. Cheating on your partner doesn't get much more vanilla than this.

and bazooka, i'm confounded by your statement that "this isn't cheating, because they haven't had sex" ... ooooookay.
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"My mistake", she has been emotionally cheating for some time, though when reading some comments people place more emphasis on sex as cheating.
personally i class emotional attachment as cheating.
 
crimmy said:
yes but in the past week they have visibly been making more of an effort to separate themselves on occasion and not be quite so joined at the hip

yes they still gravitate towards one another but I don't see the screechers/Jade/Mikkayla being criticised for doing the same ...

and Tully is being nominated mostly for the emotional outbursts which are draining and for being stuck together like glue with Drew thus not allowing THEM to form friendships with him or her ... I think only Matt has mentioned the cheating in nomination reasoning ... everyone has stayed clear of it as a reason I think ... they may have brought it up in DR - Tim, Tahan and Ed ... but that;s about it)
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Yes, yes they have. Drew even got up and managed to get himself pain medication for his migrene without Tully holding his head and hand. But only after Ed and Matt bullied him to do it because he's not a child and should be able to himself without his mother! Right? :D
 
TullyLovesDrew said:
She is a very interesting part of the show whether you love her or hate her she brings so much more to the show than the Sugar Sisters do.
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Absolutely. The sisters are nice ladies, very patient and easygoing, but great Big Brother housemates they are not.

Whilst I do think Tully keeps things interesting, and would prefer to see her stay over the sisters, I do think she needs some professional help to cope with her emotional responses, for her own sake. And I do worry, a lot, about how she will cope when she gets out the house and sees the terrible tirade of hatred that has been voiced (not here, on facebook etc.), by people who have really gone overboard and far beyond the usual love / hate for housemates that is expected. Yes, she can be bloody annoying but threatening to have her harmed and so on is just outrageous.
 
Please try and remember that there is more than one person at fault here.
The producers, the psychiatrists on the show and drew are all also equally to blame.
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I agree Drew is just as at fault as Tully in regards to cheating on Tahlia, but I don't get how you're also blaming their relationship on producers or psychiatrists!?!?!???

and I agree with koo -- Tully seriously does need some professional help, it's just not mentally healthy to be crying every single day of the week over trivial things. She does my head in, but I can't even begin to imagine how much she must do her own head in... :( ... life's too short to cry over it!
 
lollalisha said:
just found this comment from tully's friend on twitter, apologies for reposting the letter from her but she quoted it in her post:

I am Tullys friend who ran that site and i have certainly not abandoned her. It is Katie who attends the eviction shows, she has no idea how to use twitter or a page on Facebook so it is me ( a different friend) who does this for Tully. Please don’t pass judgment over me before you know the whole story. I 100% am going to be there for Tully but that does not need to be done publicly. She needs to come out of the house now so how can I continue to tweet and tell almost 3000 people to save her week after week. Please read my post on the big brother forums from today –
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I just don't get how after reading this anyone could still be saying to vote for Tully. Tully haters maybe because they want to see her continue to dig a hole but surely not anyone who claims to be a fan or find her entertaining? It's just so selfish to me.
 
chads said:
As you said you have never been cheated on yourself. Wait until you have then we can discuss about this as you can't possibily understand it until you experince it yourself. I hope you won't ever have to experince it though but in this world it is unlikely unfortunately.
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Well you've never been on Big Brother so you can't possibly understand it, therefore we shouldn't discuss what the HMs do?
 
crimmy said:
yes they still gravitate towards one another but I don't see the screechers/Jade/Mikkayla being criticised for doing the same ...
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Hardly the same! Sisters/Jade/Mikkayla are group who also interact with Ben, Tim and Ed. Drully interact with themselves and themselves only.



chads said:
What's for the dinner?
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MADONNA said:
[MENTION=11846]Sorceress[/MENTION]
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I thought French was your current appetite? :p
 
Mrs Butterface said:
I just don't get how after reading this anyone could still be saying to vote for Tully. Tully haters maybe because they want to see her continue to dig a hole but surely not anyone who claims to be a fan or find her entertaining? It's just so selfish to me.
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Because with all due respect to her friends, if Tully still wants to be there, it may not be for them to decide?
 
Mrs Butterface said:
I just don't get how after reading this anyone could still be saying to vote for Tully. Tully haters maybe because they want to see her continue to dig a hole but surely not anyone who claims to be a fan or find her entertaining? It's just so selfish to me.
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I'm not voting but I still hope she stays in because she wants to. Tahlia's already broken up with her, so I don't know how much more damage she can do.
 
BBfan- said:
Well you've never been on Big Brother so you can't possibly understand it, therefore we shouldn't discuss what the HMs do?
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Yes, let's delete the forums?

Btw. You think I'm obsessed with this but why do you have Tully's photo as your avatar and your screenname is BBfan?
 
littlebear said:
Because with all due respect to her friends, if Tully still wants to be there, it may not be for them to decide?
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Of course it's not for her friends to decide...I was more referring to the specific justifications Tully fans have been giving for them voting for her. They are saying the complete opposite to what several of her friends have now said and I just don't see how they presume to know what's better for her than her loved ones do.
 
chads said:
As you said you have never been cheated on yourself. Wait until you have then we can discuss about this as you can't possibily understand it until you experince it yourself. I hope you won't ever have to experince it though but in this world it is unlikely unfortunately.
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that's very cynical of you Chads ... and a little unfair to say that to BBfan who tries very hard to be reasonable ... she isn't a 'die-hard, one-eyed, never-going-to-listen-to-any-criticism' type of fan

also one doesn't need to experience something personally in order to empathise & understand the hurt involved

the thing none of us really know is exactly what shape the broken relationship was in when she entered the house ... NOT that that in any way excuses the situation ... but it might help to understand in some part WHY ... or HOW ...

also the power of a relationship built up when you are in the company of the other person 24/7 from the start should not be ignored in this ...it must take their focus off the outside world and bring it sharply into their little microcosm the BB house ... allowing them to in some part forget the outside for a while ...

I don't think what is going on can be realistically compared to life outside of the house ... the basic fact that they are unable to have contact with anyone outside is what has made this so bad

would you have seen this relationship in a better light if Tully had picked up the phone, called the ex and dumped her before moving into the relationship? or would you have still found reason to criticise her for hurting the ex?

no matter how it was dealt with the ex was / is going to get hurt. Nothing prevents that.

But at least the ex has stated life goes on. she didn't murder anyone. move on <or words to that effect - I'm not going to waste half an hour trying to find her tweets to quote verbatim - we know the essence of them by now so well - she's very hurt, she wants to move on, she doesn't want people hating on Tully>
 
chads said:
Yes, let's delete the forums?

Btw. You think I'm obsessed with this but why do you have Tully's photo as your avatar and your screenname is BBfan?
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I was using your logic and came to that conclusion.

I have a stupid crush on Tully that won't go away, but luckily it hasn't clouded my judgment so much that I can't see her faults. I just don't think they're as bad as people make them out to be.
 
Thank you [MENTION=34950]crimmy[/MENTION] for noticing that I do try to be reasonable and see things from both sides. :)
 
I don't know why we're even arguing about this ..... 1) Tully has CHOSEN to hook up with Drew (and therefore cheat on her partner on national TV) (and dont give me any crap about "they havent had sex yet") because thats the only thing they havent done together yet, 2) Tahlia has CHOSEN as a result to part ways with Tully (and kudos for her for doing it in a very respectful manner, for which she should hold her head high, especially as Tully didn't show her any respect when she hooked up with Drew)

Keep in mind that Tahlia never signed up for BB!

So there's nothing to argue about ... Tully has chosen to cheat, her (ex)-gf has chosen to part ways as a result ...

ps. Drew is just as guilty as Tully though, he knows the story but is still pursuing, and that is completely disrespectful to Tully's gf.... not that she seems to care tho :(
 
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