Housemate #5 TULLY!

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For you to be able say that she believes that she is hiding her actions from the audience you need to believe that is a plausible outcome. So, put yourself in her position - do you think, applying the straight face test, that if you were acting like her you could expect to escape notice?

I've not heard the other contestants say they have had no idea what is going on (whatever it is that is occurring). On the contrary I've heard just about all of them complain about Drew and Tully - because they see it as a weakness to attack.

And "just friends" is typical friends talk. What's your point?

I do not know of any attempts to find camera dead spots.

I repeat if there has been a breakup then Tully cannot possibly know about it. So, when she say she has a girlfriend she is not lying. However, as I've said, the whole scenario is part of a strategy. The evidence for this is Tully.
Heidi said on Twitter that until she was out of the house and watched BB the night after she was evicted, she had no clue Tully and Drew had even kissed before. That's why she made the comments she did during her eviction iv with Sonia. As for camera dead spots, the most recent time was shown on the Late Night Feast. This is why they went into the bathroom to hide under the towel to kiss.
 
I think its more likely they had a moment and made out or something. That would make her friends very upset and disappointed
 
oh i say im tending to agree with you here perhaps thats why she seemed happy in clips yesterday after showdown and we thought it was maybe cos she won or was saved

After watching today's show her seeming happy in the kitchen was because Drew told her to be happy.
 
I think that kiss under the towel in the bathroom was just done spare of the moment, jokey kinda thing but that quick kiss by the toilet was Tully trying to hid from the camera.
I'm not sure if they've had sex because its easy to get caught out and trying to use condoms might be obvious but maybe something else with wandering hands under the doona? or they had a proper pash, we've only seen quick kisses here and there.
I think a cameraman/crew must give some inside info away...didn't Tullys exGF dump her before the 'I love you's' and quick kiss under doona was shown on air. We had a little warning in a thread as well that something was going to be shown that night.

maybe Tullys friend is just fed up with all the negative feedback and trying to keep up with it all?
 
Heidi said on Twitter that until she was out of the house and watched BB the night after she was evicted, she had no clue Tully and Drew had even kissed before. That's why she made the comments she did during her eviction iv with Sonia. As for camera dead spots, the most recent time was shown on the Late Night Feast. This is why they went into the bathroom to hide under the towel to kiss.

They're sleeping in the same bed and hanging around all day together and Heidi didn't know that they had kissed? Sorry, not believable.

In any case nobody in the house can claim to be under a similar illusion now.

And you saw what went on in the camera dead spot? I don't think so. You saw them go into the bathroom. Sounds open to me.
 
They're sleeping in the same bed and hanging around all day together and Heidi didn't know that they had kissed? Sorry, not believable.

In any case nobody in the house can claim to be under a similar illusion now.

And you saw what went on in the camera dead spot? I don't think so. You saw them go into the bathroom. Sounds open to me.
You said you hadn't heard a HM say they didn't know what was going on. I've proven you wrong. Heidi didn't have a clue. If she had she wouldn't pretend she only found out after leaving the house as there's no benefit to be gained by her lying. It just makes her look more stupid than she already does.

And EVERYONE saw what went on when Tully steered Drew into the bathroom after realising they were still in view of the cameras. Do you not watch the Late Night Feasts or something?
 
You said you hadn't heard a HM say they didn't know what was going on. I've proven you wrong. Heidi didn't have a clue. If she had she wouldn't pretend she only found out after leaving the house as there's no benefit to be gained by her lying. It just makes her look more stupid than she already does.

And EVERYONE saw what went on when Tully steered Drew into the bathroom after realising they were still in view of the cameras. Do you not watch the Late Night Feasts or something?

As you say Heidi (and many others) saw Drew and Tully on her TV. And you saw them in the bathroom. So Tully cannot be accused of lying. They are doing what they are doing in front of Heidi, you and many others.
 
The (ex) girlfriend had probably been informed. At least I'd assume close family and friends would have more access to information than us.

And I don't think they'd tell them about things they weren't going to show (or if not show, at least make clear happened).
 
As you say Heidi (and many others) saw Drew and Tully on her TV. And you saw them in the bathroom. So Tully cannot be accused of lying. They are doing what they are doing in front of Heidi, you and many others.
As [MENTION=36011]chads[/MENTION] already explained, Tully nor any of the other HMs have a clue what we see. They are not making out in front of other HMs hence them hiding under the doona and in the bathroom. And the lies chads was referring to was Tully telling her fellow HMs that her and Drew are just friends and that nothing is going on beyond that. So yes, she is lying. The only people "they are doing what they are doing in front of" are viewers at home and she has no way of knowing if that footage is even aired.
 
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As [MENTION=36011]chads[/MENTION] already explained, Tully nor any of the other HMs have a clue what we see. They are not making out in front of other HMs hence them hiding under the doona and in the bathroom. And the lies chads was referring to was Tully telling her fellow HMs that her and Drew are just friends and that nothing is going on beyond that. So yes, she is lying. The only people "they are doing what they are doing in front of" are viewers at home and she has no way of knowing if that footage is even aired.

And as I have said before for your proposition to be valid you must believable. So put yourself in Tully's current position. Do you honestly believe that we would not be seeing what we are currently seeing. Since you believe what you are seeing represents some representation of the truth then your answer can only be no.

So, if you believe what would be shown about you in the situation would represent a truth why do you think Tully would think otherwise? She is perfectly capable of coming to the same conclusion that you yourself have come to.
 
And "just friends" is typical friends talk. What's your point?
Read a book NOT "Just Friends" by Shirley Glass if you really want to understand this. Others addressed the rest of your post so I won't bother repeating them to you.
 
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And as I have said before for your proposition to be valid you must believable. So put yourself in Tully's current position. Do you honestly believe that we would not be seeing what we are currently seeing. Since you believe what you are seeing represents some representation of the truth then your answer can only be no.

So, if you believe what would be shown about you in the situation would represent a truth why do you think Tully would think otherwise? She is perfectly capable of coming to the same conclusion that you yourself have come to.
You're talking in circles now.
 
Tully tried to stay on the fence and wanted to be true to her GF but she fell in love with Drew and now more and more she is embracing it. She is a very interesting part of the show whether you love her or hate her she brings so much more to the show than the Sugar Sisters do.
 
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