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And people complain that Ben/Michael & Stacey are nasty.

It's a reality tv show.

You lookin for a fight, biatch?

Because I can be naked oiled and ready to go, within 5 minutes notice.
 
No idea how you've come to that conclusion. There's so much missing, how can any of us know what motivates any of them to do whatever they do?

I think he probably apologises because he judges himself very harshly (as per the "I'm a terrible person" diatribes he seems to go on semi-regularly) and understands the need for tolerance in this very weird situation. He vents and bitches, then apologises for doing so, so he can reinforce his "good person" desire.

But that's just my take on it, obviously.
The problem is Ben does some very considerate things in one-on-ones with people offering good advice and support and then craps on them the next chance he gets often using the vulnerability he created to do so.

At first I might have thought he was fighting to be a better person but now I think he just sets up this convos as part of his cray cray game to attack other people and diminish them.

Essentially the only redeeming thing about him is simply a mechanism for him to be an even bigger ahole.

By the way Ben did say he was a bitch when he came in, but for a while you might think he was being dramatic. That being said you don't get off the hook for being an ahole just because you tell everyone you are an ahole.
 
The problem is Ben does some very considerate things in one-on-ones with people offering good advice and support and then craps on them the next chance he gets often using the vulnerability he created to do so.

At first I might have thought he was fighting to be a better person but now I think he just sets up this convos as part of his cray cray game to attack other people and diminish them.

Essentially the only redeeming thing about him is simply a mechanism for him to be an even bigger ahole.
There's no point trying to argue it, it's been said so many times but I think people just don't want to hear/believe it.
I saw this very early on, yes he appears very sincere and considerate but these are for his motives alone, like I've stated before....once the series ends, he will wash himself clean of any hm (even Stacey) because they were tools for him to use in his game to win.
 
By the way Ben did say he was a bitch when he came in, but for a while you might think he was being dramatic. That being said you don't get off the hook for being an ahole just because you tell everyone you are an ahole.
No, not at all. The point I am trying to make when I say that is that at least Ben isn't being fake. At the end of the day I support the housemate who entertains me the most and this series it has been Ben. I always have been a fan of the villains. Michael2006 is my favourite housemate of all time and PaulBB04 is a close second.
 
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