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Trala said:
It is the closest they have happily been together.

Frank is so horribly nippy, and it really hurts. He nips excitedly at Billy's heels and it understandably really upsets him. I have started bathroom time outs when he nips. Fingers crossed it works.

Frank is a full terrorist.
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Is the nippy from his, I gather, nasty background? Hopefully it will work out. That's if you have fingers left :)
 
Trala said:
Absolutely. For me, I like to save indignant outrage for things that actually matter.
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I'm usually fairly placid and choose to say nothing. Silence can speak volumes at times, but this just grabbed me as I have never come across anyone else who's seen it in a similar vein.
 
I don't get offended by pet names as such, I think they can be totally OTT though like the examples I gave which (possibly irrationally?) I found annoying. It does seem a common complaint though, not just on here in the past hour, but in general with people I know and I guess it's not up to us what other people can and can't get offended about. I don't know though, like most things it depends on so many variables including the context and the rest of the message precluding it which usually make the intent fairly clear.

Anyway.
 
Trala said:
Crikey! What a pack of misery some of you are! The lengths you go to to feel outraged are just sad.

While I personally only use terms of endearment to those I love, I never feel offended when they are served up to me. I think terms of endearment come from a place of kindness, which helps me find happiness in my day considering in the nursing wards I am constantly referred to as darl/love/babe/sweetie by patients and co workers alike.

Just last week I was tending to the pressure area care of a geriatric with a #NOF, and as we were repositiong her my young AIN said "it's okay darlin' I've got you.." And it warmed my heart to see someone so young try to nurture through language.

And just to put a cherry on top, I am a huge name shortener when I like you. I love it when I get called Tra or Trace. It makes me feel liked.

So stick that in your uptight arses!! Ha!
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fair enough Tra - however when someone is addressing me over the phone, has never met me, will never meet me, couldn't give a rats a$$ about me I do not want to hear an endearment like Love, Darling, Sweetie coming out of their mouths towards me. Its rude and disrespectful - its uncaring - its a total misuse of the words ... and basically - its laziness. They haven't taken the time or care to note my name which I gave at the start of the conversation so just pluck some stupid term out of the air as a form of address. I always take down the name of the person I'm dealing with and make sure to address them by their name when I'm thanking them at the end of the call. No matter who it is. (well ok - Mumbai IS an exception!)

whilst in your line of work - when showing respect, caring and love towards a patient - fair enough ... in mine - not so much.

Different strokes for different folks :)
 
crimmy said:
fair enough Tra - however when someone is addressing me over the phone, has never met me, will never meet me, couldn't give a rats a$$ about me I do not want to hear an endearment like Love, Darling, Sweetie coming out of their mouths towards me. Its rude and disrespectful - its uncaring - its a total misuse of the words ... and basically - its laziness. They haven't taken the time or care to note my name which I gave at the start of the conversation so just pluck some stupid term out of the air as a form of address. I always take down the name of the person I'm dealing with and make sure to address them by their name when I'm thanking them at the end of the call. No matter who it is. (well ok - Mumbai IS an exception!)

whilst in your line of work - when showing respect, caring and love towards a patient - fair enough ... in mine - not so much.

Different strokes for different folks :)
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I don't like impersonally used terms like that from those I don't know in any situation, but I do get where Trala is coming from looking at it from the nursing point of view, so fair point Trala.
 
jessy_girl said:
I don't get offended by pet names as such, I think they can be totally OTT though like the examples I gave which (possibly irrationally?) I found annoying. It does seem a common complaint though, not just on here in the past hour, but in general with people I know and I guess it's not up to us what other people can and can't get offended about. I don't know though, like most things it depends on so many variables including the context and the rest of the message precluding it which usually make the intent fairly clear.

Anyway.
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We have an OTT'er at work, and I truly believe her 'pretty face" "cheeky bunny" come from a place of kindness. I would much rather be called a random term of endearment than a cunt. The complaint can't be that common, because I am reading it here first. Maybe we just swim in different ponds because I didn't even realise using a term of endearment could be offensive. Sweet flaps, or hot arse I get, but love, sweetie, darl or dear, until today I didn't realise there could be a possible issue.

You are so right, it is up to us to choose what we get offended over, and I am amazed on a daily basis on the choices people around me make.
 
Do people call each other 'Sweetie' and other stuff because they have forgotten the other person's name and are too embarrassed to ask the other person their name? Or maybe it is an indication that they like and care for the other person? Who knows. It doesn't really matter that much anyway as there are much worse things to be upset about. All a matter of perspective.
 
Trala said:
We have an OTT'er at work, and I truly believe her 'pretty face" "cheeky bunny" come from a place of kindness. I would much rather be called a random term of endearment than a cunt. The complaint can't be that common, because I am reading it here first. Maybe we just swim in different ponds because until today, I didn't even realise using a term of endearment could be offensive. Sweet flaps, or hot arse I get, but love, sweetie, darl or dear, until today I didn't realise their even could be a possible issue.

You are so right, it is up to us to choose what we get offended over, and I am amazed on a daily basis on the choices people around me make.
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I think because I don't come from a background that uses those terms is why it has never sat well with me when they've been used. Always felt uncomfortable. I won't be offended from anyone on here from using them towards me if they're used in a friendly manner, except for cunt. That's just not on, lol. :)
 
reepbot said:
Do people call each other 'Sweetie' and other stuff because they have forgotten the other person's name and are too embarrassed to ask the other person their name? Or maybe it is an indication that they like and care for the other person? Who knows. It doesn't really matter that much anyway as there are much worse things to be upset about. All a matter of perspective.
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Quite possibly it's because they have temporarily forgotten a name. Good point. Another good point is the caring/liking side of it. I do have affectionate names for people as they do for me but it's a mutually acceptable name. None of us would use it if the other one didn't like it.
 
Trala said:
We have an OTT'er at work, and I truly believe her 'pretty face" "cheeky bunny" come from a place of kindness. I would much rather be called a random term of endearment than a cunt. The complaint can't be that common, because I am reading it here first. Maybe we just swim in different ponds because I didn't even realise using a term of endearment could be offensive. Sweet flaps, or hot arse I get, but love, sweetie, darl or dear, until today I didn't realise there could be a possible issue.

You are so right, it is up to us to choose what we get offended over, and I am amazed on a daily basis on the choices people around me make.
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Oh yeah, I have no doubt that this particular OTTer I dealt had only the kindest intentions and I wasn't offended or thinking she meant poorly, it just caught me off guard having a stranger call me such an elaborate nick name. I think anyone would choose a term of endearment over an insult if those are the only 2 choices, some people probably just prefer the middle ground with strangers.

I feel like I hear this complaint relatively frequently though, so it's interesting to me that you don't, but it shows the great diversity of people out there in a way. Maybe as a Queenslander you are surrounded by relaxed and easy going people while I just have Sydney stress heads.
 
reepbot said:
Do people call each other 'Sweetie' and other stuff because they have forgotten the other person's name and are too embarrassed to ask the other person their name? Or maybe it is an indication that they like and care for the other person? Who knows. It doesn't really matter that much anyway as there are much worse things to be upset about. All a matter of perspective.
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Definitely in some cases. My friend has the worst memory with names and after years of calling everyone by the wrong name she just adapted a sweetie/hun/babe system for girls and mate/buddy/champ etc for guys.
 
Khun Khun said:
I think because I don't come from a background that uses those terms is why it has never sat well with me when they've been used. Always felt uncomfortable. I won't be offended from anyone on here from using them towards me if they're used in a friendly manner, except for cunt. That's just not on, lol. :)
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also a fair point - my family don't call each other sweetie etc ... my parents were always affectionate towards one another but not with sugarysweet endearments that casually rolled off the tongue .. I guess I feel that overusing the word darling takes away some of its meaning when I want to use it towards someone I love

having said that I use a wonderful boot maker nearby ... Pete the Pom ... and he greets customers with "Hello me lovely! & how are you today?!" in his delightful accent. and I love it! (you just can't win with crimmy!! for every rule I have an exception ... or two or three! lol)

my sister lived in the UK for 15 years and I have to admit "yes my love" and "jolly" became part of her vocabulary ...
 
I worked briefly in the building industry when I was much younger and HATED being called 'love' by builders/tradesmen when they were ordering something or making a query over the phone. They'd never call one of my male colleagues 'love'. I felt it was used as a patronising put-down. It certainly wasn't coming from a place of kindness.

Apart from that, though, I have no problem being called lovely names by family, friends, colleagues or strange women in shops, hospitals, police stations or brothels. ;)
 
Trala said:
I went to a palliative training day last week, and the thing I took away from it is you only get one shot at a dignified death, a traumatic palliative death can haunt families for a life time. Before my career is over, I will serve some time in palliative. It is a beautiful area to work.

Hey quick question:-

Which symptom is the most common in palliative care?

A) nausea
B) pain
C) drowsiness
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Oh it is a great area to work in Trace, and I think you would do well in it. So many palliative care units now are going acute palliative care, and with the heavy workload, it is sometimes hard to spend that extra time with patients that really need you. Thats the only downfall I had with it. Nothing more fulfilling than being there for someones last breath. Knowing that you were able to support them and the family, and making sure that they have the most dignified of deaths. I would say all three symptoms. And i would include more, constipation, delirium. Pain certainly is very common, and needs to be managed properly, a lot of anxiety too.
 
Hmm I think it depends on the tone and context one says darl, love, sweetie etc.

I don't mind being called any of those, but if it is used to patronise me, then yeah it's annoying, but of course I would most likely give it back then.
 
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Oh it is a great area to work in Trace, and I think you would do well in it. So many palliative care units now are going acute palliative care, and with the heavy workload, it is sometimes hard to spend that extra time with patients that really need you. Thats the only downfall I had with it. Nothing more fulfilling than being there for someones last breath. Knowing that you were able to support them and the family, and making sure that they have the most dignified of deaths. I would say all three symptoms. And i would include more, constipation, delirium. Pain certainly is very common, and needs to be managed properly, a lot of anxiety too.
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According to the palliative nurse who headed our training day the answer is nausea!

I was genuinely shocked as I thought it would be pain.

The other thing I learned, Haliperidol is often used to treat nausea in palliative care. Would you agree with that?

Hey and do you manually prime your Nikki pump or do you use the automatic function?

I am still undecided if this palliative expert is a loon...
 
Saw the new Star Wars trailer on the big screen today. Looked very impressive, and more importantly didn't give away the plot in the trailer. I hope it does do better critically than The Phantom Menace.

Has anyone seen this?

 
Trala said:
According to the palliative nurse who headed our training day the answer is nausea!

I was genuinely shocked as I thought it would be pain.

The other thing I learned, Haliperidol is often used to treat nausea in palliative care. Would you agree with that?

Hey and do you manually prime your Nikki pump or do you use the automatic function?

I am still undecided if this palliative expert is a loon...
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Yeah I would of thought pain, but I think it is all of them really. Oh halo is great for nausea, and also for anxiety etc. Yeah actually come to think of it, yes Nausea would be up there with the pain. Automatic all the way. We use to have other pumps, and u could manually prime it, but the nikki pumps are good to do it auto. You should really consider Palliative care, I think you would be great at it. :)
 
Trala said:
It is the closest they have happily been together.

Frank is so horribly nippy, and it really hurts. He nips excitedly at Billy's heels and it understandably really upsets him. I have started bathroom time outs when he nips. Fingers crossed it works.

Frank is a full terrorist.
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Time Outs are the Key ;) Oh, and a big Growl - I use a deep BARRRRRRR - at the same time ;) Then, in the future you can warn through the growl to stop and if it doesn't - timeouts ............ Seems to work around here!
 
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