Examples of Estelle being bullied

[CASEYBB]

It's the classic female style of Bullying, Isolating someone, rude and unwarranted statements or remarks, belittling her in front of everyone, Ignoring her, People roll their eyes if she speaks and cut her off, the bitching behind her back ( Telling her to her face that the weirdness is lovable and endearing but hating on her and calling her a weirdo behind her back.) Enough Said.

 

[yukikodancer]

Relational aggression, also known as covert aggression,[1] or covert bullying[2] is a type of aggression in which harm is caused through damage to one’s relationships or social status.[2][3] Although it can be used in many contexts and among different age groups, relational aggression among adolescents, in particular, has received a lot of attention with the help of popular media including movies like ‘’Mean Girls’’ and books like ‘’Odd Girl Out’’ by R. Simmons (2003) and ‘’Queen Bees and Wannabes’’ by R. Wiseman (2003). Relational aggression can have various lifelong consequences. This type of aggression has been primarily observed and studied among girls.[3] However, research shows that it is quite commonly used by boys as well.


Definition
Relational aggression is defined as a type of aggression that is "intended to harm other adolescents through deliberate manipulation of their social standing and relationships." [13] Relational aggression, according to Dan Olweus [14] is a type of bullying. Bullying in general, is defined as physically or psychologically violent re-occurring and not provoked acts, where the bully and victim have unequal physical strength or/and psychological power.[15] These key conditions apply to all types of bullying: verbal, physical, relational.[14]
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Forms

The main three forms of relational aggression include:[13]

Excluding others from social activities;

Damaging victim's reputations with others by spreading rumors and gossiping about the victim, or humiliating him/her in front of others;

Withdrawing attention and friendship.

Psychological manipulation and coercion can also be considered as a type of relational aggression.
Most recent research has been focusing on cyber-bullying, which is a relatively new yet increasingly popular way of engaging in both verbal and relational aggression due to growing importance of various communication and technology devices in modern societies.[16] Some studies show that internet meanness is more common among girls than boys.[12]

Oh and that was examples not definitions of bullying. Thanks

Those definitions are exactly what has been happening. I hadn't seen them before and reading them all I can think of it yes, that is what has been going on in the house since very early on. Michael admitted he "had to choose his enemy" and he chose Estelle and influenced everyone in the house to do the same. I genuinely believe he regrets that now, but that doesn't stop it from being true for the majority of the time they have been in there.

 

[cattle_and_cane10]

Thanks for all the definitions of bullying, though I'm still not convinced that they apply to Estelle. Maybe they do, but I haven't seen enough footage to be convinced.

- Estelle was not in the "cool group" and it was deliberate that she was not given entry, but that's not bullying.
- Estelle was mocked, but so are many of the others e.g. Layla and her lack of knowledge of geography.
- If we say that Estelle was bullied you have to say that Charm was bullied as well. Also Ryan. Probably others.

Does anyone remember Nobby???? It's laughable saying Michael is/was a bully when thinking of nobby.

 

[katrina10]

Bullied might be a little extreme. But the housemates ganged up on her, and continuously bitched about her.

 

[Melore]

She doesn't have to know about it for it to be called bullying, so all of the nasty stuff behind her back counts. As far as in your face bullying goes, there have also been plenty of examples, but I seriously can't be bothered dredging them all up. Two recent and obvious examples are Ben cracking it about Zoe and the horse, and eating her danish knowing full well what he was doing (and planting the idea that she hoards stuff in the heads of Layla and Zoe.)

Er, she does hoard stuff. Ergo, it's not just an' idea'. We, the viewer, have seen her hiding the honey for her own later use.

And I have not once, ever, seen a single one of these 'plenty of examples' listed. A concrete example. Not a load of descriptions of what can constitute bullying. A concrete example.

 

[eye]

. A concrete example.

Ask and ye shall receive...

 

[Bonny]

Three types of bullying worth considering.


1. Physical bullying

Physical bullying includes hitting, kicking, tripping, pinching and pushing or damaging property.

2. Verbal bullying

Verbal bullying includes name calling, insults, teasing, intimidation, homophobic or racist remarks, or verbal abuse.

3. Covert bullying

Covert bullying is often harder to recognise and can be carried out behind the bullied person's back. It is designed to harm someone's social reputation and/or cause humiliation. Covert bullying includes:

lying and spreading rumours
negative facial or physical gestures, menacing or contemptuous looks
playing nasty jokes to embarrass and humiliate
mimicking unkindly
encouraging others to socially exclude someone
damaging someone's social reputation or social acceptance.


All the above pretty much relates to Estelle.

 

[Michka26]

I think it's been proven that the fallacy of Estelle being bullied has been built on hype as presently there's been two examples from 12 weeks given...oh and a giant concrete penis from the threads 12yr old, thanks for your contribution.

 

[duckie]

Three types of bullying worth considering.


1. Physical bullying

Physical bullying includes hitting, kicking, tripping, pinching and pushing or damaging property.

2. Verbal bullying

Verbal bullying includes name calling, insults, teasing, intimidation, homophobic or racist remarks, or verbal abuse.

3. Covert bullying

Covert bullying is often harder to recognise and can be carried out behind the bullied person's back. It is designed to harm someone's social reputation and/or cause humiliation. Covert bullying includes:

lying and spreading rumours
negative facial or physical gestures, menacing or contemptuous looks
playing nasty jokes to embarrass and humiliate
mimicking unkindly
encouraging others to socially exclude someone
damaging someone's social reputation or social acceptance.


All the above pretty much relates to Estelle.

Now I would like you to list point by point as to how these definitions apply to Estelle's time in the house. Now I don't want any sweeping generalisations but a carefully worded response to the topic supported with lots of concrete examples. Word limit: 250 words.

 

[duckie]

Ask and ye shall receive...

I know I shoudn't tell you this because you are an Estelle fan, but this image cracked me up. There's something endearing about you Eye.

 

[cattle_and_cane10]

Three types of bullying worth considering.


1. Physical bullying


3. Covert bullying

Covert bullying is often harder to recognise and can be carried out behind the bullied person's back. It is designed to harm someone's social reputation and/or cause humiliation. Covert bullying includes:

lying and spreading rumours
negative facial or physical gestures, menacing or contemptuous looks
playing nasty jokes to embarrass and humiliate
mimicking unkindly
encouraging others to socially exclude someone
damaging someone's social reputation or social acceptance.


All the above pretty much relates to Estelle.

Fair enough Bonny. I withdraw my "attempted bullying" comment. I still can't see why it DEFINITELY applies to Estelle. Michael, Stacey and Ben repeatedly bitched about her among themselves but I didn't see a deliberate plan to influence others.

Many of the things on your list could be said to apply to a number of the HMs. Apart from Josh and Estelle, no one liked Ava. Was she bullied? Ryan was repeatedly referred to as stupid to his face and behind his back. Was that bullying? Charm, in particular got a lot of negativity. I wouldn't call it bullying, but she was clearly the most unloved HM. Has anyone ever suggested that she was bullied?

Again, I say, compare Estelle's experience with that of the guy bullied by Nobby - there is no comparison. The latter was a classic case of bullying.

 

[Autobahn]

The people who believe Estelle has been bullied : bravo! There's been some great posts to read.

It's not worth lowering your intelligence to discuss this topic as you'll never get anywhere.. give up now and save your sanity! Some people will never live to see in colour.

 

[v-tone]

I'm not convinced Estelle herself would see it as bullying, even if she knew all that had been going on. Contrary to what some people like to claim, she has never played the victim card. Sure, she's been upset at getting 18 nomination points and being nominated so many times, but so would anyone. No one can deny that she has been the object of more vitriol than others in the house, especially behind her back. She has been the underdog and at the same time she has a lot of admirable qualities, and that's why she has such a huge cult following.

Call it bullying or not, but if she wins, she will certainly have earnt it the hard way!

 

[Someone]

I'm a massive fan of Estelle and I personally wouldn't use the word "bullying" to describe her treatment in the house, simply because for me, "bullying" is a term I would only use when I believe that some sort of action must be taken by authority figures (teachers, employers etc) to put a stop to the behaviour.

A lot of people were calling on Big Brother to intervene when the housemates were treating her very badly earlier on in the season, but I was adamantly against this. If Big Brother started intervening whenever a housemate was excluded and bitched about then the entire premise of the show would be undermined. Big Brother's only responsibility should be to ensure that next year, they pick a bunch of housemates who will actually engage in CONFLICT rather than perpetual bitchiness.

Having said that, I still believe that the treatment of Estelle was pathetic, vile and cruel, and I hope that a lot of the housemates look back on the way they behaved in a decades time and feel ashamed at what they did.

 

[kbomb247]

Now I would like you to list point by point as to how these definitions apply to Estelle's time in the house. Now I don't want any sweeping generalisations but a carefully worded response to the topic supported with lots of concrete examples. Word limit: 250 words.

Now I would like you to list point by point as to how these definitions apply to Estelle's time in the house. Now I don't want any sweeping generalisations but a carefully worded response to the topic supported with lots of concrete examples. Word limit: 250 words.

1. Zoe & the horse

2. Being shut down by Sarah "Look at moi, you're going to listen, and you're going to LOVE it!"..."Estelle, it's my turn now...my turn to talk now...no, it's my...my turn to talk now"

-"hahaha I hope you get evicted..." "what?" "oh sorry not you I love you"

3. - Ben telling Zoe & Layla that Estelle hoards food
- 'Go to the weird corner'
- "I'm eating tofu tea today, meow"
- Michael saying the whole house hates her
- Ben in particular trying to separate Ava from Estelle & discourage their friendship
- Michael nominating "the perennial" Estelle
- Michael "choosing his enemy"
-"Why is she still here?"
- Ben/Stacey/Zoe reactions to Estelle being safe last week
- "Estelle's glad someone's come from another school so she can have a friend"
- Ben blatantly lying to Estelle about nominating her, and denying being the instigator of much of the nastiness
- Ben referring to Ava & Estelle behind their backs as the Bobbsey Twins

 

[up_all_night]

There were conversations in the house about her to separate and socially isolate her until she is evicted. If that isn't bullying then i don't know what is?

This is even what the whole initial "Estelle's a flirt" thing was. It was aimed to socially isolate her from Michael, Layla and Sam. It's even evidenced by it starting to have that reaction on Sam.

They went nuts when Ava came in because Estelle was no longer socially isolated. That she was no longer sitting in the weird corner by herself. Actively trying to destroy her friendship.

She was friends with Bradly and he turned against her to fit in the group. He even attested to this.

There's no denying this is what was going on for most of the time she was in the house. As it was said, they had been making her a pariah.

I think there's also a bigger picture of the environment they were creating for her to live in. One where they all hate her and she knows it. One where she enters a room and they stop their conversations, where she was not meant to feel welcome. With all this talk of hierarchy and she doesn't know the social cues. Which basically was, don't come to us, we'll come to you. Only speak when spoken to. Imagine living in such a hostile environment 24/7, where she was constantly aware that were bitching behind her back. They were being horrible to her and two faced.

This is bullying, and she handled it was class. Anyone that denies creating a hostile unwelcome environment for someone, where they are isolated and alone in a crowd. Simply doesn't understand bullying.

 

[Connoisseur]

It's not your typical physical bullying but it is bullying never-the-less.

It's the type of psychological bullying favoured by females and male gays, the kind indulged in workplaces through maliciously gossiping about someone and tarnishing their reputation among their colleagues.

Those with a modicum of intelligence can see it, it isn't really that subtle although the perpertrators would to like think it is.

 

[gold]

It's not your typical physical bullying but it is bullying never-the-less.

It's the type of psychological bullying favoured by females and male gays, the kind indulged in workplaces through maliciously gossiping about someone and tarnishing their reputation among their colleagues.

Those with a modicum of intelligence can see it, it isn't really that subtle although the perpertrators would to like think it is.

Spot on assessment.

 

[torifrog]

She doesn't have to know about it for it to be called bullying, so all of the nasty stuff behind her back counts. As far as in your face bullying goes, there have also been plenty of examples, but I seriously can't be bothered dredging them all up. Two recent and obvious examples are Ben cracking it about Zoe and the horse, and eating her danish knowing full well what he was doing (and planting the idea that she hoards stuff in the heads of Layla and Zoe.)

Of course she does, because true bullying forces the bullied person to feel abused or intimidated. If the "victim" is unaware of a behaviour by others, they can't be being bullied, logically.

 

[Maddy]

Of course she does, because true bullying forces the bullied person to feel abused or intimidated. If the "victim" is unaware of a behaviour by others, they can't be being bullied, logically.

So an abused child that doesn't know any better, isn't abused? A battered wife that believes her husband is doing it for her own good, isn't battered?