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Examples of Estelle being bullied
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duckie
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The silence is deafening.
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riddim
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trolling thread is trolling
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duckie
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How is this a "trolling" thread? It is asking a pertinent question. How has Estelle been bullied in the Big Brother House?????
Melore
Tiny Member
It is a pertinent question. This same question was asked on Whirlpool weeks ago, and there was the same deadly silence.
Eventually someone came up with (repeatedly) the time Ben was bitching about her in the dark, and Estelle was actually awake and overheard them. Right!
People are so invested in their storyline re Estelle they have lost touch with actuality.
Eventually someone came up with (repeatedly) the time Ben was bitching about her in the dark, and Estelle was actually awake and overheard them. Right!
People are so invested in their storyline re Estelle they have lost touch with actuality.
eye
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Look there was obvious collusion going on from the voting patterns.
Michael has repeatedly notarised his bitching about Estelle in the diary room. It's no secret.
Bullying doesn't always involve beating up or visible aggression.
Things like saying she's an "outsider" by Michael, that she should be in her own corner, that she's weird constantly, being called an "idiot" behind her back by Zoe and so on all point to a systematic SHUNNING by the dominant group.
To be confronted by Ben over her relationship with Ava which was nothing of his concern to the point of crying shows plainly bad behaviour that we witnessed with our own eyes.
The emotional bullying and shunning as well as visible and audible demonstrations of it are plain enough.
In the end no one can be bothered arguing about it. You either saw and acknowledged it, or you didn't.
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cattle_and_cane10
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This is a legit thread. Posters have repeatedly stated that Estelle has been bullied, so what are these instances of bullying?
Real bullying is a very serious matter. Don't confuse it with people merely gossiping and bitching. Mostly HMs have at least been decent to Estelle's face,
There was a real case of bullying on BB a few years ago, which BB did nothing about. Nobby (I think that was his name) was the head bully. I can't remember the name of the guy who was bullied. Nobby was a nasty piece of work. Classic bully. BB just sat back and let it happen. Really horrible.
Real bullying is a very serious matter. Don't confuse it with people merely gossiping and bitching. Mostly HMs have at least been decent to Estelle's face,
There was a real case of bullying on BB a few years ago, which BB did nothing about. Nobby (I think that was his name) was the head bully. I can't remember the name of the guy who was bullied. Nobby was a nasty piece of work. Classic bully. BB just sat back and let it happen. Really horrible.
yukikodancer
Active Member
She doesn't have to know about it for it to be called bullying, so all of the nasty stuff behind her back counts. As far as in your face bullying goes, there have also been plenty of examples, but I seriously can't be bothered dredging them all up. Two recent and obvious examples are Ben cracking it about Zoe and the horse, and eating her danish knowing full well what he was doing (and planting the idea that she hoards stuff in the heads of Layla and Zoe.)
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riddim
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search for threads about estelle and bullying then. it's been discussed to death - both with those who believe it has happened posting quotes, video links and descriptions of events as well as references to legal and psychological definitions of bullying, and with postings by detractors who attack the posters, their sources and scream "nuh uh" as their counter arguments.
this thread has already shown it will be no different, ergo it's just a sandpit for estelle haters to troll from. enjoy.
eye
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Social rejection occurs when an individual is deliberately excluded from a social relationship or social interaction. The topic includes both interpersonal rejection (or peer rejection) and romantic rejection. A person can be rejected on an individual basis or by an entire group of people. Furthermore, rejection can be either active, by bullying, teasing, or ridiculing, or passive, by ignoring a person, or giving the "silent treatment." The experience of being rejected is subjective for the recipient, and it can be perceived when it is not actually present. The word ostracism is often used for the process (in Ancient Greece ostracism was voting into temporary exile).
Although humans are social beings, some level of rejection is an inevitable part of life. Nevertheless, rejection can become a problem when it is prolonged or consistent, when the relationship is important, or when the individual is highly sensitive to rejection. Rejection by an entire group of people can have especially negative effects, particularly when it results in social isolation.[2]
The experience of rejection can lead to a number of adverse psychological consequences such as loneliness, low self-esteem, aggression, and depression.[3] It can also lead to feelings of insecurity and a heightened sensitivity to future rejection.
Although humans are social beings, some level of rejection is an inevitable part of life. Nevertheless, rejection can become a problem when it is prolonged or consistent, when the relationship is important, or when the individual is highly sensitive to rejection. Rejection by an entire group of people can have especially negative effects, particularly when it results in social isolation.[2]
The experience of rejection can lead to a number of adverse psychological consequences such as loneliness, low self-esteem, aggression, and depression.[3] It can also lead to feelings of insecurity and a heightened sensitivity to future rejection.
eye
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Relational aggression, also known as covert aggression,[1] or covert bullying[2] is a type of aggression in which harm is caused through damage to one’s relationships or social status.[2][3] Although it can be used in many contexts and among different age groups, relational aggression among adolescents, in particular, has received a lot of attention with the help of popular media including movies like ‘’Mean Girls’’ and books like ‘’Odd Girl Out’’ by R. Simmons (2003) and ‘’Queen Bees and Wannabes’’ by R. Wiseman (2003). Relational aggression can have various lifelong consequences. This type of aggression has been primarily observed and studied among girls.[3] However, research shows that it is quite commonly used by boys as well.
Definition
Relational aggression is defined as a type of aggression that is "intended to harm other adolescents through deliberate manipulation of their social standing and relationships." [13] Relational aggression, according to Dan Olweus [14] is a type of bullying. Bullying in general, is defined as physically or psychologically violent re-occurring and not provoked acts, where the bully and victim have unequal physical strength or/and psychological power.[15] These key conditions apply to all types of bullying: verbal, physical, relational.[14]
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Forms
The main three forms of relational aggression include:[13]
Excluding others from social activities;
Damaging victim's reputations with others by spreading rumors and gossiping about the victim, or humiliating him/her in front of others;
Withdrawing attention and friendship.
Psychological manipulation and coercion can also be considered as a type of relational aggression.
Most recent research has been focusing on cyber-bullying, which is a relatively new yet increasingly popular way of engaging in both verbal and relational aggression due to growing importance of various communication and technology devices in modern societies.[16] Some studies show that internet meanness is more common among girls than boys.[12]
Definition
Relational aggression is defined as a type of aggression that is "intended to harm other adolescents through deliberate manipulation of their social standing and relationships." [13] Relational aggression, according to Dan Olweus [14] is a type of bullying. Bullying in general, is defined as physically or psychologically violent re-occurring and not provoked acts, where the bully and victim have unequal physical strength or/and psychological power.[15] These key conditions apply to all types of bullying: verbal, physical, relational.[14]
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Forms
The main three forms of relational aggression include:[13]
Excluding others from social activities;
Damaging victim's reputations with others by spreading rumors and gossiping about the victim, or humiliating him/her in front of others;
Withdrawing attention and friendship.
Psychological manipulation and coercion can also be considered as a type of relational aggression.
Most recent research has been focusing on cyber-bullying, which is a relatively new yet increasingly popular way of engaging in both verbal and relational aggression due to growing importance of various communication and technology devices in modern societies.[16] Some studies show that internet meanness is more common among girls than boys.[12]
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cattle_and_cane10
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Of course bullying can be psychological. In fact maybe that is what it is most of the time. But bitching behind someone's back is not necessarily bullying, and not with respect to Estelle. Plenty of other HMs have been bitched about as well. Are you saying they were bullied too?
Estelle has always had friends to play with in the house. Even those that didn't like her much were usually ok to her face from what I could see. It is just that she was never part of the "cool group" (until maybe now?). Does that mean she was being bullied? Don't think so.
About Ben: that was just one of Ben's weird D and Ms wasn't it? Something about Estelle needing to let the HMs get to know Ava. Really silly on Ben's part but I wouldn't call it bullying.
Estelle has always had friends to play with in the house. Even those that didn't like her much were usually ok to her face from what I could see. It is just that she was never part of the "cool group" (until maybe now?). Does that mean she was being bullied? Don't think so.
About Ben: that was just one of Ben's weird D and Ms wasn't it? Something about Estelle needing to let the HMs get to know Ava. Really silly on Ben's part but I wouldn't call it bullying.
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cattle_and_cane10
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You can't call it bullying if she doesn't know about it. "Attempted bullying" at best.
Ben and the horse toy: did anyone back him up? No. He just came across as a tool. No one criticised him for it but I suspect they all thought his reaction was strange.
I don't know about the danish. We have seen Estelle hoarding honey though, so who knows, maybe he is right. (That is still no excuse to eat something of hers. Ben needs to have a long hard look at himself in the mirror. He does admit to his bad side, but not enough).