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Drew = young Keanu Reeves

This board turns on people so fast that Drew will be the golden boy again in a week if Tully is evicted.

Drew is basically a nice guy, but he is particularly vulnerable to Tully's evil spell. She knows how to mess with his head, and he doesn't seem have the right defense mechanisms. In fact when he gets pissed with her, she is then able to use that against him, because she knows how to play the victim. She is a master manipulator in very a toxic way. I suspect her girlfriend in real-life may have made a lucky escape from that relationship. Drew will be a different person again when Tully finally leaves the house.
 
So much for Drew being my favourite male in the house - that is no longer the case.

Firstly, what makes him think what he's doing is okay? Just because Tully says she's comfortable doesn't make it not immoral or wrong in any way. She has a girlfriend, dude, put 2 and 2 together. What you are doing is being "the other", even if her girlfriend may potentially be okay with it. You don't know that she will be, so back off, yeah?

Secondly, his loyalty to the thing is purely disgusting on many levels. I'm so sick of people defending Tully and saying she's getting flack for being a girl. No. She's getting flack because she's an awful human being. I don't actually know her, and I used to say I didn't hate her, but I genuinely think I despise her (or at least her presence). She's negative, an asshole, hypocritical, a cheater, manipulator, backstabber, and on top of all of that? Definitely crazy.

Thirdly, the way she treats other housemates sickens me. I don't even like Mikkayla and I still feel bad for her about how Tully acts about her.

Fourthly, Drew is an idiot for associating himself with her. I didn't really approve of his lusting after Jade either (as it wasn't reciprocated enough), but he's a major moron for turning to Tully. He comes off as so desperate, it's sad.

Fifthly, his personality has just gotten worse and worse. He's gone from being potentially misunderstood and quiet to simply seeming shallow and disrespectful.

GTFO, Drew. I said this was your game to lose, and looks like I was right. You shot yourself in the foot. Adios.

^ I concur with this. Bravo!
 
You know what I was thinking. We have the so called "girl code" meaning women that hit on taken men are violating that code but you do not hear that with men. When they hit on a taken woman it is also the woman's fault.

Now about Drew. (I am always playing catch up but I have nearly caught up.) The thing is reading this thread I thought Drew had done more despicable things but with only 6 minutes of last night's episode to watch,I do not think he was that bad.

Maybe I missed downloading an ep cause I read he had made fun of Jade in front of Tully? Yes I do not like that he is so involved with her and I also do not like how he talked behind Tim's back, but he is not that bad as I expected him to be reading here.
 
i don't care that he said he'd save tully (even if i think he must be brain dead) but the conversation in the kitchen with tully telling him what he should have said, and complaining that jade shouldn't take it personally and totally telling him what to think....once again made him look like a limp noodle. Not just because of the way she reacted when tim didn't pick her (and drew knew this), or the fact that she was being hypocritical again, or for the fact that she was waaaaay more interested in what jade said than anyone else was, but because he is so friggen blind and weak that he doesn't pull her up on any of her bullshit and agrees with everything she says. So unattractive in a man to see him being led by the penis by someone who is manipulating him so easily. Good God man where is your spine?

There you go. I apparently did miss an episode.

I would very much appreciate it if one of you can tell me how many episodes there are per week. That would help.

I know there is one that is very short 18 minutes or so.
 
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So much for Drew being my favourite male in the house - that is no longer the case.

Firstly, what makes him think what he's doing is okay? Just because Tully says she's comfortable doesn't make it not immoral or wrong in any way. She has a girlfriend, dude, put 2 and 2 together. What you are doing is being "the other", even if her girlfriend may potentially be okay with it. You don't know that she will be, so back off, yeah?

Secondly, his loyalty to the thing is purely disgusting on many levels. I'm so sick of people defending Tully and saying she's getting flack for being a girl. No. She's getting flack because she's an awful human being. I don't actually know her, and I used to say I didn't hate her, but I genuinely think I despise her (or at least her presence). She's negative, an asshole, hypocritical, a cheater, manipulator, backstabber, and on top of all of that? Definitely crazy.

Thirdly, the way she treats other housemates sickens me. I don't even like Mikkayla and I still feel bad for her about how Tully acts about her.

Fourthly, Drew is an idiot for associating himself with her. I didn't really approve of his lusting after Jade either (as it wasn't reciprocated enough), but he's a major moron for turning to Tully. He comes off as so desperate, it's sad.

Fifthly, his personality has just gotten worse and worse. He's gone from being potentially misunderstood and quiet to simply seeming shallow and disrespectful.

GTFO, Drew. I said this was your game to lose, and looks like I was right. You shot yourself in the foot. Adios.
You just nailed it. :)
 
Ok. After the all the updates, I just feel sorry for him. Clearly, he has been brainwashed and is not of sound mind since his thoughts are Tully's thoughts. This is a dire situation to behold.
 
You know what I was thinking. We have the so called "girl code" meaning women that hit on taken men are violating that code but you do not hear that with men. When they hit on a taken woman it is also the woman's fault.

Nope. He's at fault here. Tully is clearly crazy and at fault as well, but he knows she's taken and he doesn't care how it comes off. Matt commented on it, saying he lacked character for going after a taken girl and how it made HIM look bad. I completely agree with him. Drew is being a moron right now.

I've heard of the bro code much more than the girl code, btw.
 
Nope. He's at fault here. Tully is clearly crazy and at fault as well, but he knows she's taken and he doesn't care how it comes off. Matt commented on it, saying he lacked character for going after a taken girl and how it made HIM look bad. I completely agree with him. Drew is being a moron right now.

I've heard of the bro code much more than the girl code, btw.
Yes, yes and yes.
This is the part of Matt I loved. Tim also has mentioned it to drew. He knows and he is still continuing, so no one else to blame.
 
Lights Out
Day 41 - 11:16 PM

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It’s an early night for the HMs, who are all asleep now except for Drew and Tully.

“What are we going to do when we get out of here?” Tully asks anxiously.

“We can’t answer it,” Drew says.

“I see you every day. I see your tantrums, and your mood swings, and I still think you’re amazing,” she tells him.

“I have my tantrums and my mood swings and every day you keep coming back…” Drew says, stroking her face.

Gaslighting. That's a behaviour of NPD and Borderline but my money is on Borderline.

My mother has NPD (narcissistic personality disorder). Tim is def. on the spectrum but probs just N traits. Haven't seen overt gaslighting from him, deceptions but not to harm individuals, he's on the group deception level, to propel himself forward, e.g. fake birthday. So more program management than project.


So the big question is why is Drew so easily manipulated? He's obvs pre-disposed. He's pretty avoidant. Obviously terrified of conflict, poor love. Something must have happened to him. He's been controlled before because his resistance is so low.

Where the fuck is the house shrink? At least give her some meds ffs.
 
Gaslighting. That's a behaviour of NPD and Borderline but my money is on Borderline.

My mother has NPD (narcissistic personality disorder). Tim is def. on the spectrum but probs just N traits. Haven't seen overt gaslighting from him, deceptions but not to harm individuals, he's on the group deception level, to propel himself forward, e.g. fake birthday. So more program management than project.


So the big question is why is Drew so easily manipulated? He's obvs pre-disposed. He's pretty avoidant. Obviously terrified of conflict, poor love. Something must have happened to him. He's been controlled before because his resistance is so low.

Where the fuck is the house shrink? At least give her some meds ffs.

Wow. I am learning some interesting stuff from these forums. Gas lighting. Too weird. The BB people couldn't script this stuff!
 
Gaslighting. That's a behaviour of NPD and Borderline but my money is on Borderline.

My mother has NPD (narcissistic personality disorder). Tim is def. on the spectrum but probs just N traits. Haven't seen overt gaslighting from him, deceptions but not to harm individuals, he's on the group deception level, to propel himself forward, e.g. fake birthday. So more program management than project.


So the big question is why is Drew so easily manipulated? He's obvs pre-disposed. He's pretty avoidant. Obviously terrified of conflict, poor love. Something must have happened to him. He's been controlled before because his resistance is so low.

Where the fuck is the house shrink? At least give her some meds ffs.
That makes perfect sense to me. There should be house psychs for the hm's. might help them understand themselves better and also help them identify issues they may have.
 
It's a term adopted from the play and movie Gaslight where a man tries to drive his wife insane but brainwashing her that her experiences can't be trusted. It's to confuse the victim and keep them disorientated and compliant.
 
That makes perfect sense to me. There should be house psychs for the hm's. might help them understand themselves better and also help them identify issues they may have.

Last year they had a consultant in Brisbane but not on set.

BPD is not so easy to diagnose I venture in the psych screening. She lacks insight and is delusional so her psych responses would be skewed to how she perceives herself not her actual behaviour. No doubt she was bubbly and positive and BB were so keen for a prima facie attractive lesbian (who knows Ruby Rose so that would have a bit of play with the execs) they didn't probe enough.
 
Yeah, when Tully first appeared on screen, I honestly thought I'd like her a lot! It's easy to fool people with shallow meetings. It's the 24/7 stuff that makes you see how crazy they are.
 
Yeah, when Tully first appeared on screen, I honestly thought I'd like her a lot! It's easy to fool people with shallow meetings. It's the 24/7 stuff that makes you see how crazy they are.

Exactly. We've all had shit flatmates. How they perform in the interview bears little resemblance. I've lived with some real psychos that presented as considerate.
 
Last year they had a consultant in Brisbane but not on set.

BPD is not so easy to diagnose I venture in the psych screening. She lacks insight and is delusional so her psych responses would be skewed to how she perceives herself not her actual behaviour. No doubt she was bubbly and positive and BB were so keen for a prima facie attractive lesbian (who knows Ruby Rose so that would have a bit of play with the execs) they didn't probe enough.

I agree, there is definitely an existing disorder. I'm just not sure BB cares too much about the emotional abuse that is clearly going on (from Tully towards Drew AND Tahlia... Tully is playing mind games with her as well as I see it).

All it would take to sort this girl out would be a diary room session, with BB asking her lots of implied questions about her GF; how does she think Tahlia feels about her and Drew having such an exclusive relationship, is she still missing her GF... Plant some seeds of doubt in her head. Watch her squirm then...Manipulative people don't like being played at their own game.
 
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