Drew is a scumbag

[Jo-bot]

You know what, it's perfectly fine to go after someone if they have a partner.

It's not cool if they are married, have kids and those kind of things. However if you meet someone, you like them. Why should you not try?

It's not like he pestered her. She was up for it, they went for it. The wrongness is on her side.

well that just fucking sucks....you do realise not everyone is legally allowed to "marry" their partner.

and even if they could marry and haven't yet, i wouldn't marry a piece of shit that gave it to the town slut because she could because it wasn't "official". Your partner must love live, i hope he/she is banging the town nag because he/she can....

 

[Sweet_Geek]

You know what, it's perfectly fine to go after someone if they have a partner.

It's not cool if they are married, have kids and those kind of things. However if you meet someone, you like them. Why should you not try?

It's not like he pestered her. She was up for it, they went for it. The wrongness is on her side.

Are you effing serious! What Stone Age year are you from? What the hell does marriage have to do with respecting the person you are with? So it is ok to be a disrespectful scumbag as long as you are not married?

Some people irritate me with stupidity. I don't even know why I'm responding to this post.

 

[chads]

That's a good point. Tully can't even marry her girlfriend in Australia so it must be ok to cheat according to up_all_night...?

Edit: up_all_night, I think that was a really low blow against LGBT people...

 

[up_all_night]

That's a good point. Tully can't even marry her girlfriend in Australia so it must be ok to cheat according to up_all_night...?

Edit: up_all_night, I think that was a really low blow against LGBT people...

Oh don't be stupid, you know I'm using the term as in a level of a serious relationship.

Unless someone is in a certain level of relationship. Whether legal or not.

 

[up_all_night]

Are you effing serious! What Stone Age year are you from? What the hell does marriage have to do with respecting the person you are with? So it is ok to be a disrespectful scumbag as long as you are not married?

Some people irritate me with stupidity. I don't even know why I'm responding to this post.

Level of commitment. That's all I'm referring to.


If you're out and meet a girl, should you automatically check if they're casual dating someone, in a relationship or not. no you just hit on them and get a response.

If you like someone and they have a partner, there's nothing wrong with letting them know.

 

[up_all_night]

I'm glad I don't know you. Good luck on your dishonest life.

What makes it different if they are married and have kids? They can always divorce right?

I don't have a dishonest life at all.


Think about how many people you know in good relationships where one or both were in a relationship when they met. Should they have never given that relationship up for something better?



I think you shouldn't morally get involved in trying to break someone up, actively going about it when it's a serious relationship because the consequences for that other person, as well as kids, partners can be quite steep.

If someone's just dating someone, then yeah the other person loses a partner, but their life isn't crushed and isn't really dramatically affected for the long term.

 

[Veronica2005]

From what I read once on twitter about Tahlia, and what Tully has said in the house, I dont think her GF actually wanted to get married.(not everyone wants to get married but should have the right too)
Tully seems to want to get married, whether it's to a male or female, and maybe that's one of their relationship problems that they've had, and why Tully thinks ppl dont love her like she loves them.

On the outside you would break it off with a partner if you found someone else, or realised you weren't in love with them anymore.
I wonder if Tully wants to be with her GF now, even though she has already been dropped a few weeks ago? Tully certainly isnt acting like she has a GF. Tully used to mentioned her a lot but I dont think she has for a while?

 

[Sweet_Geek]

Level of commitment. That's all I'm referring to.


If you're out and meet a girl, should you automatically check if they're casual dating someone, in a relationship or not. no you just hit on them and get a response.

If you like someone and they have a partner, there's nothing wrong with letting them know.

Well say that from the beginning! I got so worked up as it was understood completely differently.

There is nothing wrong with communicating your feelings. But if the other person is still in a relationship and hasn't actually left their partner and suddenly you are behaving like a couple with that person, then as far as I'm concerned it is wrong!

Tully has not broken it off with her gf, and drew knows she has not broken it off yet, so the both of them are wrong for kissing, being to touchy, sleeping in bed together, basically acting like a couple.m

 

[chads]

Oh don't be stupid, you know I'm using the term as in a level of a serious relationship.

Unless someone is in a certain level of relationship. Whether legal or not.

According to your logic bi or gay women can't get serious enough for you to respect their relationship and the other partner. Read that slowly and think again who's the stupid here? A trinket and a piece of paper do not guarantee anything.

 

[tilliii]

I don't have a dishonest life at all.


Think about how many people you know in good relationships where one or both were in a relationship when they met. Should they have never given that relationship up for something better?

they should break up first. it's that simple. cheating is just always cowardly and wrong imo. eve if the relationship is not serious.

 

[up_all_night]

According to your logic bi or gay women can't get serious enough for you to respect their relationship and the other partner. Read that slowly and think again who's the stupid here? A trinket and a piece of paper do not guarantee anything.

That's not at all what I think. Don't be so quick to assume the worst about peoples attitudes when it comes to this.

 

[up_all_night]

they should break up first. it's that simple. cheating is just always cowardly and wrong imo. eve if the relationship is not serious.

It is scummy running around behind someones back.

However regardless, they are isolated and people are people.

 

[chads]

I don't have a dishonest life at all.

Think about how many people you know in good relationships where one or both were in a relationship when they met. Should they have never given that relationship up for something better?

I think you shouldn't morally get involved in trying to break someone up, actively going about it when it's a serious relationship because the consequences for that other person, as well as kids, partners can be quite steep.

If someone's just dating someone, then yeah the other person loses a partner, but their life isn't crushed and isn't really dramatically affected for the long term.

And who are you to judge who is in a serious relationship and who is not? You are one of those ignorant people who don't understand that a ring and a piece of paper mean nothing to dishonest people. They just put the ring away and they're not married anymore. You just hide behind the ring as an excuse to cheat.

All information we know points that Tully was very much in a serious monogamous relationship. They have a house and a dog together. They would be considered common-law married where I live. They would file joint taxes for example. Drew knew this in advance and yet he "morally got involved in trying to break someone up, actively going about it when it's a serious relationship because the consequences for that other person, as well as kids, partners could be quite steep." Thank you for that it fits Drew perfectly.

 

[chads]

However regardless, they are isolated and people are people.

No. There are people and there are cheaters. Honest people and liars. Please don't drag others down to your level just because you don't respect other people's relationships.

 

[yukikodancer]

You can't help who you fall for, and they are in a totally unique space. Judging them does no one any good. They are not the first couple to be in this situation on BB, but back when Marty and Jess were on, there was very little social media, so they weren't faced with the massive backlash that these two have been.
They are living in a bubble where this house and these people are their whole life. Tully has had no chance to have things out with her gf. A day is like a week in there. Sharon walked out after 2 weeks telling them she loved them and them telling her the same. 2 weeks and they loved one another. Tully and Drew have been there for more than 2 months now. They are as close as any two hms have ever been on BB. Calling them horrible names and judging them when you have never been in their situation is unfair. I am not looking forward to either of them coming out of the house and having to face all of the negativity.

 

[chads]

It doesn't matter if they are first or not. You can't maybe help who you fall for but you can control yourself. In fact only you can control yourself. Did you see many of the guys hitting on Tahan for example?

And actually almost every housemate has complained about Drew and Tully that they have isolated themselves from the others and are impossible to talk to because the other is always around. So no they are not like any other housemate. No one forced Tully to sleep in Drew's bed.

 

[yukikodancer]

It doesn't matter if they are first or not. You can't maybe help who you fall for but you can control yourself. In fact only you can control yourself. Did you see many of the guys hitting on Tahan for example?

I saw Caleb hitting on Tahan. Not really the point though. Look, I don't want to be in this conversation anymore. Last time I looked I saw my name under the thread heading title and I really didn't enjoy the sight. I'm sure someone else will comment and that wont happen anymore. I am out of here.

 

[chads]

Look, I don't want to be in this conversation anymore.

The most logical action then is to post in the thread containing the discussion you don't want to participate, of course...

 

[mslat92]

Just because people are in a house for a month or so does not mean morals - what is right and wrong - become bendable and even non-existent. Do we think murder is okay just because they've been cooped up for a while?

All the other HMs seem to be doing okay without developing unhealthy, emotionally co-dependent relationships. I think Ed had it wrong when he said Tully would've just found someone else to cling to if Drew weren't there. Because in the initial weeks when Drew was technically "off-limits" because of the marriage sham, she chose Matt. And while he gave her support and she called him her House Husband, there was no shady business going on.

With Drew, it's completely different. She just couldn't help herself. And fresh off a Jade rejection, he lapped up her attention. We have since learnt that he thrives off the drama, so I don't buy any of that shit he's trying to sell in the Diary Room about being all frustrated about Tully. PLEASE, it's clear he loves that shit. And so does she. They are perfect for each other.

Funny thing is, I reckon they will fall apart as soon as they leave the house - they won't have the safe confines of the house anymore. The reality of their situation will come crashing down around them when they realise how much the public hate them. They can't hide behind a camera, and they will have to deal with the consequences of their actions; they will nowhere to run when they are forced to explain their despicable actions.

 

[Veronica2005]

It was actually Tim and Heidi's suggestion that Tully slept in Drews bed when the halfway fence first went down but I was hoping that was only until the next week and new nominees bedswap but yeah no one forced Tully to go there, she went on her own free will.