Benjamin HM 2012 - Officially joins Behind Big Brother.

Kaz said:
Because she came 3rd & there wasn't much movement in her votes.
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And how the hell would you know that given only percentages are shown not the actual number of votes? Do you know something we don't? 😳

smurfette said:
The comment about Estelle believing in unicorns was in response to a poster who had stated that they believed that the voting was rigged because Estelle had said it was. The reason for mentioning that Estelle believed in unicorns was to highlight that just because someone (Estelle in this case) believes something, does not necessarily mean that belief is correct.
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That much is obvious but it goes beyond that. It was also having a go at her 'cos how can you trust someone's intellect or what they have to say if they believe in silly children fairytales. hehehehe Hilarious. 😗

Not that she ever did, it was clear she was being lighthearted and playful whenever she brought the unicorn stuff up.
 
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Kaz said:
Your 'fans' became complacent, people on this forum & other BB forums who supported other HM's said they were sending in heaps of votes to either Layla or Ben to stop you from winning.

The auditing process is done by professionals, who have nothing to do with BB.

You do know, you have defamed & slandered them & if someone found out who audits the votes & sent them this link, they can sue you.

Tahan came 3rd because voters wanted Jade & Tim in the final.
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Winner winner chicken dinner.

Sure they can try and manipulate the way people vote through biased editing or tricks (showing the voting graph when Estelle way ahead in the finale)...but they can't/don't actually fudge the voting numbers. If they could do that there'd be no need for the complete biased editing we see because they wouldn't need to manipulate the way people voted. They could just fudge the numbers to get whoever they wanted to win.
 
Kaz said:
Because she came 3rd & there wasn't much movement in her votes.
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Did you know any Estelle fans who became complacent in the final week? I mean she was nominated many times during that season, and during a couple of evictions she was a few percentage points getting evicted. So why would have Estelle fans been complacent? Wouldn't they have been voting twice as hard in the final week?
 
reepbot said:
Did you know any Estelle fans who became complacent in the final week? I mean she was nominated many times during that season, and during a couple of evictions she was a few percentage points getting evicted. So why would have Estelle fans been complacent? Wouldn't they have been voting twice as hard in the final week?
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Um, Estelle voter here. I wouldn't say I got complacent but by the end I had certainly already spent way too much money saving her (she was up every week remember) and I wasn't prepared to go crazy at the end and spend all my money to secure her the win. I know a lot of people that are the same.

Believe it or not we're not all millionaires here and don't have unlimited resources to vote for a TV show. Estelle fans were mostly drained by the end while Benjamin and Layla fans probably had more money since they weren't up nearly as much.
 
Gemini said:
Um, Estelle voter here. I wouldn't say I got complacent but by the end I had certainly already spent way too much money saving her (she was up every week remember) and I wasn't prepared to go crazy at the end and spend all my money to secure her the win. I know a lot of people that are the same.

Believe it or not we're not all millionaires here and don't have unlimited resources to vote for a TV show. Estelle fans were mostly drained by the end while Benjamin and Layla fans probably had more money since they weren't up nearly as much.
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Cool. I just thought complacent was a weird word to use when describing why Estelle lost. But I can certainly understand that people are not made of money. But thank you for your kind reply, @Gemini.
 
Gemini said:
Winner winner chicken dinner.

Sure they can try and manipulate the way people vote through biased editing or tricks (showing the voting graph when Estelle way ahead in the finale)...but they can't/don't actually fudge the voting numbers. If they could do that there'd be no need for the complete biased editing we see because they wouldn't need to manipulate the way people voted. They could just fudge the numbers to get whoever they wanted to win.
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There was nothing in that post that hadn't been covered before.

Misspudding sez:
FWIW I don't think the voting was rigged in the way she thinks it was, but there are more ways of rigging voting than purely miscounting or whatevz. Alex Mav could have purchased a few phones and thrashed the voting and wrote it off as a business cost etc. Not that I'm saying that THAT happened because Ben did have a pretty strong direct and indirect fan base (Ala Stacy #anyonebutestelle etc.)

Also, regardless, unicorns are real.
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People get that it would be too risky to blatantly meddle with the voting process and expose themselves unnecessarily for criminal charges. But as many others have pointed out numerous times, there are other methods of getting around that so it's not that ridiculous to fathom. Individuals have broken the law when a lot more than a reality winner was at stake. GFC, Enron etc.. anyone?

There's no doubt in my mind that the producers were hell bent on making sure Ben ended up the winner (for the gay marriage and first gay winner angles) and were prepared to do anything it took to achieve that outcome without 'crossing' the ethical line, although I suspect they came very close.

smurfette said:
Because that is your perception of the comment, doesn't mean it was the way it was intended 😗😗😗😗😗😗😗😗😗😗😗😗
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That's what I said about my Jade comments but it never did go down well. What's good for the gander...😗
 
Connoisseur said:
There was nothing in that post that hadn't been covered before.

Misspudding sez:


People get that it would be too risky to blatantly meddle with the voting process and expose themselves unnecessarily for criminal charges. But as many others have pointed out numerous times, there are other methods of getting around that so it's not that ridiculous to fathom. Individuals have broken the law when a lot more than a reality winner was at stake. GFC, Enron etc.. anyone?

There's no doubt in my mind that the producers were hell bent on making sure Ben ended up the winner (for the gay marriage and first gay winner angles) and were prepared to do anything it took to achieve that outcome without 'crossing' the ethical line, although I suspect they came very close.



That's what I said about my Jade comments but it never did go down well. What's good for the gander...😗
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Seriously, what's your point?

Estelle and some of her fans here seem to think that the producers must have deliberately changed the votes because that's the only way she could have lost from that position.

There are obviously millions of ways she could have, the most likely being her fans just ran out of money by the end of felt they could relax when they saw she she was in front in the voting combined with it spurring on her haters.

Sure they wanted Ben to win, just as they wanted Tim to win last year. Doesn't mean they performed an elaborate voting rig to make it happen though. Showing the voting graphs was enough to get their end result.
 
Klaudia Eisenberg said:
The voting is rigged. How did you think Benjamin Norris won Big Brother Australia 2012? Also, the money you spend on voting to save housemates goes towards the $250,000 cash prize. You may want to take a look at a Facebook page called 'Behind Big Brother Australia' where they shed light on what goes on behind the scenes.
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WOW u are my new fav member LOL 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
 
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