Skip to main content

Ben is a NASTY piece of work!

  • Thread starter Thread starter alizarine
  • Start date Start date
Joanie said:
So you think actions such as these, which are considered bullying, funny?
Click to expand...

Serious? Who considers knocking inanimate objects into pools labelling them with the names of absent people as bullying? I'd suggest they need re-education.
 
Jo-bot said:
productive feedback, obvious distress? maybe you are talking about bradley who copped his fair share of shit. It was a stupid fake horse. No emotional attachment, the SECOND horse (did you see the shot of the broken horse next to the new horse)....she was not bullied, she was bitched about. so was bradley, ryan, zoe, layla, michael, josh, ava.....she doesn't quite fit in and she's a big enough girl to acknowledge it. It's not like she was going to ride her cockhorse to banbury cross, she was evicted and left the stupid fake horse behind. They hated the stupid horse, we all hated that stupid horse. It's not worth crying over.
Click to expand...
Okay this made me laugh! We all hated the horse indeed. :)
 
torifrog said:
Because you'd know him so much better than the people he's just spent 24/7 with for 3 months, right?
Click to expand...

Are you saying one has to live with someone 24/7 to be able to offer an acceptable character description? Is not watching hours and hours of Ben on television every night for three months not good enough for you? With that logic, your opinion of Ben and your attempts to defend his abhorrent behaviour is just as pointless!

So, Torifrog, unless you live with someone you don't really know them! I would hate to get your opinion on anyone as it would be as futile as attempting to understand why Ben won. Also, how do you vote in elections? How do you choose your friends? Do you sleep over at new workplaces when you are looking for a job just to make sure you really know you're making the right choice? For how could you make a right choice about anyone or anything, unless you live with them/it for 24/7! Torifrog logic go!

And Estelle did point out on numerous occassions that Ben was behind most of the bullying and gossiping in the house, and she did live with him 24/7.
 
torifrog said:
Serious? Who considers knocking inanimate objects into pools labelling them with the names of absent people as bullying? I'd suggest they need re-education.
Click to expand...

You are the one who needs re-education, Torifrog. Example one - voodoo dolls. Example two - burning books. Example three - tearing down the statue of Saddam Hussein. I'm sure if I was so inclined I could find much more evidence that refutes your silly claim, and teach you that it is not the object itself that carries the burden of hatred, but the intention behind it.
 
Joanie said:
So you think actions such as these, which are considered bullying, funny?

Spreading rumours and gossiping about Estelle? Preying on other housemate's weaknesses to successfully encourage them to direct their frustrations at Estelle, thereby ostracising her from the group? Repeatedly damning her character and degrading her sense of self while justifying it as positive and productive feedback from a friend, despite her obvious distress? Physically standing over Estelle and squealing victory after a three month campaign of cruelly vindictive behaviour directed squarly at her? Biting comments during the Grand Finale designed to humiliate Estelle on national tv ("you play the victim so well"), despite having just verbally attacked her ("I meant everything I said" in response to the playback of comments Ben had made about Estelle behind her back)? Breaking the horse and throwing it over the wall (could you imagine someone doing that with Layla's rollers or Zoe's stuffed toy or anything special that meant a lot to one of the other housemates, and saying what Ben did as they were evicted)?

And do you really think throughout all of this Estelle just laughed it off because she's a "pretty good sport" and saw the "lighter side"?
Click to expand...

Casper's mum is right. We've done this to death. I even posted official definitions of bullying but it makes no headway. Some people just think cruelty is funny and don't understand what bullying really is in law. Estelle was very resilient and seemed to handle it with great strength. BB is claiming it wasn't bullying because it is in their interests to do so. Otherwise they would have had to really pull them up on it and that would have effected the storylines in the house. Some people were ashamed in the end and some people kept away from it but the exclusion meant that they were evicted fairly quickly. Other people were targeted, Angie for example - moving her stuff and then saying that it was too trivial to discuss for example but Estelle just rode above it all. Pun intended.
 
v-tone said:
Ben was master of dishing out the venom but became fractious and volatile dealing with any criticism directed at him. When Estelle called him out in one of her nominations as being the instigator of a lot of the unpleasantness in the house, he was seriously rattled, even though a truer word had never been spoken. To borrow a phrase from Corporal Jones in Dad's Army, he doesn't like it up him. (Oh hang on... that can't be right, but anyway...!)

If he is having to face a backlash from some of the wider community now that he is out of the house, it will be interesting to see how this unstable manipulator will handle it.
Click to expand...

Vale Clive Dunn. Don't PANIC!
 
ness said:
Casper's mum is right. We've done this to death. I even posted official definitions of bullying but it makes no headway. Some people just think cruelty is funny and don't understand what bullying really is in law. Estelle was very resilient and seemed to handle it with great strength. BB is claiming it wasn't bullying because it is in their interests to do so. Otherwise they would have had to really pull them up on it and that would have effected the storylines in the house. Some people were ashamed in the end and some people kept away from it but the exclusion meant that they were evicted fairly quickly. Other people were targeted, Angie for example - moving her stuff and then saying that it was too trivial to discuss for example but Estelle just rode above it all. Pun intended.
Click to expand...

Of course it was bullying. If the shoe was on the other foot all these morons who are adamant what ben and clique did to Estelle would change their tune very very quickly.

Unfortunately this is exactly what takes place in real life as well. It's hilarious when it is happening to somebody else but when the blow torch is applied to one of the clowns laughing it up at the victim's expense, suddenly it ain't so funny anymore.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top