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Happy to be corrected and informed. Just putting the thought of a straight man out there.
I am not gay. But Tully and moreso her reasonings offended me. Obviously im basing this all on snapshots from the show without knowing the person whatsoever.
It always struck me as strange that she said often she was "off men". As in they offended her. Nothing really about appreciating women. Bad experiences no doubt. But even before the Drew situation, she was always surrounding herself with the new "pretty and sensitive" boys she stated she never met on the outside. Always referring them as to her boys and really seeking and pushing for their attention. Moreso than any female in the house. Im not questioning her sexuality as it once was or is or will be...but it seems odd that she seemed to gravitate towards women after in her own words of "being put off men". Like that was the primary reason. That seems oppostional to me. Almost "going to the other side" cos she was driven there. But not a natural intent. The speed of which she glued onto Drew was quite astonishing. Im no prude and each to their own but that was a very quick slide. I am completely clueless to such matters but id be interested in others thoughts here who would be far far more qualified than me who has little to no insight into gay relationships. Is the common consencus is that she was bi-sexual? Confused? Never really gay to start with except for a phase? I literally have no idea. I know we all dont have enough information to make a definitive conclusion but id be interested in peoples thoughts?
I stress I bring this up not to be offensive confrontational or invoke nasty debate but to truly learn the the thoughts of others far more qualifeid than me to answer.
I have a genuinely honest open mind as I think most who read me on this forum know to be so.
 
Fuzz said:
Is the common consencus is that she was bi-sexual? Confused?
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I looked at her as bi. She definitely had poor experiences with males and possibly chose to stick to women only. I don't doubt she was/is attracted to both men and women, but at the time she probably leant towards the side that hurt her less. Hearing her talk about her mother it seems Tully experienced some emotionally damaging times in her life, she possibly was in a stage of life where she wanted to find stability. Regardless of where it came from. Her girlfriend was also younger than her by a few years. 25 and 21 is not a large gap but both people of those ages are at different stages in their lives. Meeting Drew who was similar in age, and probably very different to the regular guy who had hurt her in the past, probably resorted some faith in her own attraction to men. Her unwarranted reactions towards Drew come across to me as how she was used to dealing with male partners in the past. I am merely speculating based on what I am watching of her. I think Tully was struggling in different aspects in her life at the time of the show.
 
Makes sense Z. 21 and 25 is a large gap at that stage of ones development. I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I think the bold and forthright social media analyst persona was just that . A personna who was internally deeply insecure and conflicted. I credited her with a lot of intelligence but her EQ was severely lacking. She wasnt ever one of my faves but I didnt hate her. I cant hate anyone on a show with limited exposure and without meeting them personally. She could be emotionally vampriric almost. Perhaps explained by turning a tense situation into her own misery almost by emotional default rather than a contrived action. Im not sure of that though..I found it a bit uncomfortable tho when initially interviewed after eviction she downplayed it. But on the return interview just stated it was because she wasnt aware the cameras caught it all. Thats a bit cold. Blase almost.
But it was plain to see her blatant attraction to men even before the drully thing eventuated.
C'est la vie.
For me, I just asked the question about the nature of her sexuality. What really annoyed me was more the " me me me me I I I " reaction to every single situation in the house. Which kinda contradicted her ongoing ethos of being this deep compassionate and empathetic individual and explaining her outbursts for being upset for other people. That is blatantly untrue in my opinion.
 
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Sexuality and sexual attraction is a spectrum and is subject to change. Much in the same way that a persons personality can change based on the environment and the people they interact with.
 

8:16 Tahan speaks about the sugar sisters and how Lucy does all the talking and Katie just nods in agreement. There's multiple times throughout the series where the same claim is made by others and a clip is shown to emulate the claim. It's funny how Lucy and Katie were both very different people.
 
Tully is definitely bi, or maybe she would be classed as pansexual. She said herself in the house that when she is with a guy she says she is bi and when she is with a woman she says she is a lesbian. That’s a little annoying but I guess she struggled with labels. If she is committed to her partner then I suppose maybe she thinks her sexuality is irrelevant, so being committed to a female it felt right right to say lesbian but didn’t want to abandon that side of her when it a male maybe.

At a guess, being a straight presenting female she was constantly asked about her sexuality, her dating history etc so other people forced her to put a label on it.

But she did say a weird comment about being a thrill when a guy checks her out, which is odd for a lesbian but also odd for a bi girl to say. But at that time she had a long term gf, she was running in the lesbian circles, going to lesbian events etc.
 
The gender she has mostly been connected with since her first time in BB has been male, but I am pretty sure I have read somewhere she would label herself as pansexual. (not sure where I read that though sorry).
 
Zcsund1234 said:
8:16 Tahan speaks about the sugar sisters and how Lucy does all the talking and Katie just nods in agreement. There's multiple times throughout the series where the same claim is made by others and a clip is shown to emulate the claim. It's funny how Lucy and Katie were both very different people.
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Had forgotten what an amazing housemate Tahan was - probably the best female housemate of the Nine era.
 
Brekkie said:
Had forgotten what an amazing housemate Tahan was - probably the best female housemate of the Nine era.
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I like her more now than I did. She is one of the very few people who understood how to properly nominate strategically. She understood that she could beat Mikkayla and desired to keep her so that there was at least one person at the end who she could beat in a public vote. She didn't just nominate "Ben because he is a threat because he can win" she actually took the time to develop a strategy that made sense and wasn't a cop out.
 
LOL.
Look. Tahan was a fave of mine. Obviously attractive attributes to a male and she had spirit. Still doesnt cloud my judgement that she was immature. Im not ever a fan of of those who "tell it like it is" and when confronted, adds the "just jokes" byline.
Entertaining-for sure. Prefer her over a whiny self appointed bossy type like mikka. Her reveal when Justin was in the house. I cant quote word for word but it was about the dog. Just an outburst spittle finished with blah blah " but he;s mine".
At least T was what she was.
But hardly great status. Actually, Ill revise that. With some of the dross females over the years she probably was by default.
One thing I admired about her that she really did carry a lonely sword. Still doesnt excuse some pretty ordinary behaviour.
 
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Fuzz said:
LOL.
Look. Tahan was a fave of mine. Obviously attractive attributes to a male and she had spirit. Still doesnt cloud my judgement that she was immature. Im not ever a fan of of those who "tell it like it is" and when confronted, adds the "just jokes" byline.
Entertaining-for sure. Prefer her over a whiny self appointed bossy type like mikka. Her reveal when Justin was in the house. I cant quote word for word but it was about the dog. Just an outburst spittle finished with blah blah " but he;s mine".
At least T was what she was.
But hardly great status. Actually, Ill revise that. With some of the dross females over the years she probably was by default.
One thing I admired about her that she really did carry a lonely sword. Still doesnt excuse some pretty ordinary behaviour.
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Immaturity. She was only 24 in the house. I know for me in those mid-twenties years I’d had a few years of independence but still hadn’t figured out my place in the world or what it meant to be an adult. I was a bit drunk on power as I had all the privileges or adulthood but lacked the maturity and figured I was owed respect I hadn’t earned yet.
 
All ones opinion Kingy. For me 24 years of age is enough to know not to say vindictive things and then backtrack when called out by the lame premise of "im only joking". Thats teenage stuff at best imo.
 
on the topic of Tahan and immaturity there is a scene relevant to the conversation topic. At the week 7 late night feast Mikkayla and Tahan have their infamous blow up, and Tahan very cruelly mocks Mikkayla eating and then makes a weight comment. I am all for agreeing that if one is to make poor health decisions then they shouldn't question the consequences, but Tahan's comment did speak a lot of her immaturity.

I also don't fully disagree with @Fuzz about a 24 year should knowing what is mature to say, but I also can relate to @Kingston about being in that awkward age where you're gifted with independence. I am at that stage of life right now, I am not in any way a person who would say the things Tahan did, but early-mid twenties is a really awkward time in life.

Also at 15:50, Drew and Tully fight and Ben was in the pool awkwardly listening. It's a scene that makes me laugh still to this day. As cringe as Ben could be, there was some really funny dry moments from him nonetheless.
 
Fuzz said:
All ones opinion Kingy. For me 24 years of age is enough to know not to say vindictive things and then backtrack when called out by the lame premise of "im only joking". Thats teenage stuff at best imo.
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People mature at different rates. At 24 if you’d have told me I couldn’t do or say something that almost always meant I’d go out of my way to do it even more.
 
Kingston said:
People mature at different rates. At 24 if you’d have told me I couldn’t do or say something that almost always meant I’d go out of my way to do it even more.
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For sure. Especially when I left school I found a new world where I could do what I wanted with my day, I could talk without being told to stop talking and I could socialise with those who I chose to. It's a very different world in your twenties and it takes some getting used to. Some may get caught up in it, others see it for what it is. We're all different and we're all human, there's no one way to experience anything.
 
Zcsund1234 said:
Also at 15:50, Drew and Tully fight and Ben was in the pool awkwardly listening. It's a scene that makes me laugh still to this day. As cringe as Ben could be, there was some really funny dry moments from him nonetheless.
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I could just imagine being Ben in that situation thinking wtf do I do! Like him or not he said something at the perfect time!
 
Kingston said:
People mature at different rates. At 24 if you’d have told me I couldn’t do or say something that almost always meant I’d go out of my way to do it even more.
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Happily agree to disagree on tahan Kingy. Its not just general "immaturity" but treating fellow people with respect and courtesy. Immature acts which dont involve others I can understand but treating people with respect and courtesy is one of the first things we learn. From childhood.
Thanks for the discussion all. Really enjoying the thread Z.
 
Fuzz said:
Its not just general "immaturity" but treating fellow people with respect and courtesy. Immature acts which dont involve others I can understand but treating people with respect and courtesy is one of the first things we learn. From childhood.
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I do see this point as well. I don't there is one way to look at this situation in my opinion. I do firmly believe you are a product of upbringing, which is not isolated to just parents. Your upbringing includes other care givers, teachers and educations, peers and anyone else you surround yourself with. I struggle to get along with people like Tahan, I get taken back by people who are upfront and don't care about taking people by surprise with their honesty. But for a lot of people, it's a skill we learn at different stages.
 
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