Thank you for articulating this so eloquently. You are spot on the money. These have been my thoughts too.
The fact Seven have entirely eliminated past seasons and refer to the current series as “seasons 1 and 2” says it all.
Despite the producers and Sonia harping on and on about the “old version” not working for today’s audiences, the original can and would absolutely stand up on its own if done properly. Especially in 2021 where the possibilities to execute it even better than before are endless. For a list of reasons, the networks are just too afraid to invest in it and do so.
Now more than ever, however, I do believe Ten will bring it “home” and revive the original one day. Even if it’s a decade from now.
I relate to this so much, before the revival last year I binged 2003-2007 and a few CBBUK series from 2008, 2015 and 2016 to get myself pumped. It was like watching a brand new season and going in blind, there’s so much gold and it’s really sad that 7 can’t get over themselves and just broadcast content that actually divides viewers and provoke audiences to change the narrative and course of the show each Sunday night.Rewatching the series as an adult compared to when I initially watched them as a child was a really enjoyable experience for me and even sufficed as a regular new series in all honesty. I've binged all of the US seasons and I'm working my way through BBUK. There is a load of BB out there that I can still enjoy and watch at my viewing pleasure.
Which disappoints me further considering the great respect to the past they showed DWTS:AS, from the snippets I managed to catch. Granted, it was primarily Seven during those years, but still.tbh it wasn't at all surprising. Seven have gone to great lengths to distance the show from it's past, so it would make no sense to undo that effort and acknowledge anything that came prior.
Which disappoints me further considering the great respect to the past they showed DWTS:AS, from the snippets I managed to catch. Granted, it was primarily Seven during those years, but still.
Worldwide, BB series’ have always acknowledged their past and built upon that. It’s part of the brand.
No, because I believe Endemol still failed to deliver anything worthwhile in the first place for the the execs to hack.
Nice try though.
Edit: I’ll expand, since I’m pretty sure you still won’t get it. Is Seven’s vision shit? Yes. Does it hamper the the production? Sure.
But it’s still, literally, Endemol Shine’s job to produce a good show that’ll satisfy both Seven’s vision and the general audience.
Clearly you just don’t “get it”. Endemol can’t only do so much with one hand tied behind their back while having the entire show dictated to them by the network. We’re also only seeing what the network has approved of us to see so we have no idea what was left on the cutting room floor. Endemol are producing the product they were contracted to produce.
You’re wrong. Endemol are a business... If a network is interested in buying one of their formats they aren’t going to say no and if a network wants changes they aren’t in a position to decline. While there may be some negotiations between the two ultimately the network has the final word.I think you're both right, and both wrong. Ultimately, Ch7 and Endemol have agreed to produce this altered version of BB.
This is how I recall it as well. In reality there was probably a lot of compromising/tweaking between the two companies which ended up in this mess we're currently enduring.I read somewhere that it was actually Endemol who pitched the revamped BB format to 7 as they were busting to get any form of BB back on the Australian TV airwaves.
It may have been Endemol that initially pitched overall concepts based on the North American format. That said it should be clear that Seven were behind most of the other changes made to the format.I read somewhere that it was actually Endemol who pitched the revamped BB format to 7 as they were busting to get any form of BB back on the Australian TV airwaves.
I’m not sure compromise is the right word there. A lot of the changes made are decisions that only the network can make. Seven were looking for cost savings, a limited episode run, as well as an extremely polished and compact finished product. Endemol looking to sell the format has little room to do anything but agree to those terms. The current format is such a drastic departure from the original and seems to be unique to Australia that I have serious doubts the current product was devised without a list of demands from the network.probably a lot of compromising
Episode 7 - 5th May 2021
Five City Metro - Total People
#10 - Big Brother 556k
25-54 demos #3 (Nine News #1 & 2)
18-49 demos #1
16-39 demos #1
Still beaten by Travel Guides (644K), Hard Quiz (633K) and just in front of Masterchef (535K)
With a show like BB total viewers are not that important but demos. I think 7 wouldnt be too stressed at the moment as its doing well in the younger demos unlike most of their other shows.
For example Dancing With The Stars did not make the top 5 in any demo after its premiere episode.