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Episode BBAU 2022 - Episode 26 Discussion (4 July, 7:30pm)
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freddy
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Agree. I do enjoy interacting with HMs and reading their insights and opinions. But, the fact the show is pre-recorded does mean that things that would otherwise not receive too much attention with a live show can linger based on the time viewers (and former HMs) have to wait before the next episode airs; and that in turn means that events can end up getting too much contemplation, too much deliberation and too much debate. In short, yes, having the show pre-recorded can, and does, create and/or fuel hostility and drama.
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It's always fascinating on here how people can just make up narratives of what is going on and others just jump on and agree. I watch Estelle's live streams, follow her on the socials and the idea she is inciting hatred towards other housemates is absurd.
Shackles
The pen is mightier than the sword.
As someone who is rooting for her, I agree. She can get a bit feisty and even truculent (so different to how she was in 2012).
I do admit, I loved the "shut the fuck Tim".
I still hope that she wins (if she will be in top 3).
Fuzz
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What a circus.
Two words about the very nature of this game to simplify the issue.
"Everybody lies"
From your dirtiest perceived villain to even Queen Reggie herself..
Key word being perception. You will look the other way way if your fave lies or build it as a neccessay noble lie. For your villain, you will breathe fire about their lies being so ignoble as to destroy the soul of humanity.
As Tully, so eloquently put it, Its a game where at its pure essence is to deceive to survive. Its cut throat with one winner.
It is not real life and as such the reaction to the show should not be taken that way either. Leave the personal hatred in the lunchbox.
By all means, boo and hiss or cheer in a pantomime fun style. The fun style of enjoying a game unfold.
Personal vitriol or hatred over a game is so childish and immature and really reflects badly upon those that do so.
I have not one bad feeling towards any housemate whatsoever. Its a tough job they signed on for.
But we as an audience can help somewhat by not being so personally driven with naked hurtful emotions towards some housemates.
I just want to personally say thank you to each and every one of them.
But channel 7 as an entity can still go and get fucked.
Happy thoughts and vibes to all.
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It’s crazy how hard her detractors have being working since yesterday. It started before the show had even aired. She’s now apparently responsible for all the trolls on social media, the war in Ukraine and the rising cost of living
Oh yeah and if you like and support her you’re only doing it because she posts here!
deadstar55
Well-Known Member
Yes!!
Ive been out of town so to speak, and just caught up in this rubbish blitz on Estelle..
It was ok for Taras to come in there after the Tully drink rudeness, and plea " I was taken out of context, please love me"..
Estelle mutters some thoughts in the back yard and she's evil. It works both ways, we see so little of the actual relationships that we take as gospel the tit bits graciously handed to us by 7.
Right after Estelle called him out last night he admits he's a liar and its his aim to be a liar and will continue to lie right there in the BB chair.
Well you didn't jump off either Taras and you posted a blame game on Estelle early this morning.
She lied in the same episode, saying she stepped off to let Taras win, then in the next breath she said something like I lost my balance.
deadstar55
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Oh Kaz, Haters always gonna hate. I remember you and your Bully boy Benjamine dishing the hate out way back in 2012..
You know it’s okay to not approve of every hms actions. Some days we can like them and be annoyed the next, or dislike their actions singularly to the person they are. I didn’t realise you had to pick a side and stay on it. Or why there has to be a side to be picked. I didn’t particularly like Estelle’s reaction last night on the show and see her actions outside the house as menacing atm. I still think she is a a great player of the game and have mostly rooted for her, but considering shots have been taken about Tim, Taras, Johnson, I don’t know why there has to be a certain way to treat one other hm. I don’t hold one over the other and I’ll comment how I feel based on what I see.
He was completely overshadowed but the drama of the last episode but I feel like we really need to give some credit to Tim. The fact that he is a previous winner and competed in a similar format in Canada yet still managed to last 56 days without a nomination is insane. How the hell did he keep his threat level so low? While I have far from loved all of his moves, you have to recognise how well he’s done. His reaction to his nomination (while Estelle was losing her shit and pulling all the focus) was also masterful. Sure he’s cooked unless he can win the remaining challenges but to do what he’s done (social media messiness aside) is pretty impressive.
It’s funny seeing Tim saying how funny Johnson is and genuinely seems to like him. Makes you realise that we are not seeing hms true nature at all. Kind of sad. I’m sure Johnson is probably a likeable guy, we’re just not seeing it and I only see his silly decisions to the game but maybe they aren’t
And yet after the show, Ben paid for a holiday for her & other things because she couldn't afford it.
And I never believed she was bullied in 2012 & I don't believe she was bullied this series.
That's how she operates, by using the bullied term.
So far this series, she has accused Tim, Drew & to a degree Taras of bullying.
EstelleCamillaSaraMarie
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Yeah I agree about Johnson. You can just tell that Johnson on the outside would be a nice, family-oriented guy (which I’m sure will be his “pitch” as we get closer to finale - family family family!).
It’s scary how Ch7-era editing can really butcher one’s character (but hey, it’s what they signed up for!)
Yeah.. it's a bit perplexing.
Maybe if the housemates hadn't accused Taras of being under the radar he wouldn't have flipped and he wouldn't have done those things to Tully and end up lying to many and he'd still be looked at as a nice quirky chap.
I understand this view, but I think it relies a bit too heavily on semantics. I'm not saying she didn't lie. I just don't think it actually clear or in the way people are referring to it as lying.
Stepping off can mean a bunch of different things. It doesn't just mean going completely fine at the challenge and delicately deciding to stop. It can encapsulate struggling and giving up with the belief you are safe, which is all she claims. I don't think we at all can rule that out at all.
At worst she is probably just exaggerating because she felt she could have pushed harder and had a stronger mental resolve if she didn't think she was safe.
I find it amusing how people like to consider all types of lies and dishonest of equal merit. Say she did just use the wrong words, meant she would have tried harder if she didn't think she was safe. She's in a moment of being betrayed, lied to and ultimately realised her time in the house has come to an end. She would be hurt and feeling like a fool. You can give some leeway to the use of language in that situation. It's not the equivalent of a calculated bald-faced lie.
She was annoyed when she fell off.
MattyZee
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I agree. That's why i'd like Taras to win out of the newbies, he's taken me on a journey ( as much as the ch7 format allows). First, i thought this guy is quirky and looks cool (& easy on the eye!
), Then with the Tully thing i started not liking his gameplay but still liking his character. Even now, i don't like his gameplay (eg:gloating about lying), but i still like him as a person & can seperate the two. I also like to perve on his pecs