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Fuzz said:
This is difficult and probably unpopular to say and articulate properly. Ive re-read the thread since Im watching 2006 and came across the Michael v gretal argument.
I have the greatest respect for gretal. Her intelligence and insight . Her ability to transition seamlessly. But....
She has an ingrained superiority complex. No doubt compared to Sonia she is a much more intelligent host. But I dont think she ever was particularly balanced and had inherent biases. Sonia, for all her faults, let the river flow. That may be boring I agree but its fair. Its time for the housemates to tell their story not act as judge and jury as to their responses. Questioning them on their responses is fine up to a point. But to go into full argumentative mode is not the role of a host. Its not up to the host to have inherent biases, cast basically snooty asides but in fact to be ruthlessly unbiased to the best of their ability.
She lost her cool. In a nutshell. No other way to describe it. She is beyond capable as a thinking woman but not fair and equitable in dealing with housemates due to her self-beliefs. This is not host material. It could be and she is more than capable but she is such a strong willed intelligent woman she forgets her place as host..Personal bias should never enter into her role. The obvious man-hating is excusable as its almost parody.
But to lose her cool demeans her superb qualities. It simply shouldnt ever happen.
I am sure saxon agrees.
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Michael is similar to Ben from BB03 to me in that he's obviously a massive twat, but he was very entertaining to watch and he definitely had a point over the editing. John was right in that Michael would have made a great Survivor Villain with an obvious post merge downfall.
 

41:47 The Gemma eviction is such an ugly thing to look back on. The eviction was handled so poorly, and tbh it isn't the first time BBAU has gone out of it's way to embarrass an evictee in front of all the housemates either. There wasn't a need to do the eviction face to face. Having all of the housemates stand behind their chosen safe nominee was complete overkill. This should have been done in private in the diary room. I think Priya standing behind Gemma to just spare her having no supporters speaks a lot of how nasty this was.
 
Zcsund1234 said:

41:47 The Gemma eviction is such an ugly thing to look back on. The eviction was handled so poorly, and tbh it isn't the first time BBAU has gone out of it's way to embarrass an evictee in front of all the housemates either. There wasn't a need to do the eviction face to face. Having all of the housemates stand behind their chosen safe nominee was complete overkill. This should have been done in private in the diary room. I think Priya standing behind Gemma to just spare her having no supporters speaks a lot of how nasty this was.
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And that’s why I fuck with Pryia. She’s so real.
 
Zcsund1234 said:
The Gemma eviction is such an ugly thing to look back on. The eviction was handled so poorly, and tbh it isn't the first time BBAU has gone out of it's way to embarrass an evictee in front of all the housemates either. There wasn't a need to do the eviction face to face. Having all of the housemates stand behind their chosen safe nominee was complete overkill. This should have been done in private in the diary room. I think Priya standing behind Gemma to just spare her having no supporters speaks a lot of how nasty this was.
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It was bizarre. Did producers not realise it's basically school yard bullying? And it would trigger a lot of people watching as well. What a shit thing to put them through.
 
Arguably, that was the most negatively controversial incident to occur on BBAU during the Nine era. The media hype following that eviction haunted the show til the very end.

Of-course, the Tully and Clawson relationships were also on par - if not bigger - in terms of how much a big deal they became on the outside world at the time. But the Gemma eviction was probably the first time Nine’s “family friendly” image they tried so hard to push was impacted and widely criticised.

Terrible, terrible error of judgement there.
 
Back when this series was airing, I remember feeling in the first week that it didn't feel like Big Brother. The lack of live updates drained all interest from me. Even watching this on a binge I still feel the same.
 
braydenharvey said:
And that’s why I fuck with Pryia. She’s so real.
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I need to elaborate that she knew how fucked it was that the producers had even come up with this. I mean surely throughout the thought process they would’ve had some sort of incline that it would result in something not just traumatising for the housemates. But viewers. There I say, the worst twist BBAU has ever produced.
 
At that time BBUK producers loved Face to Face Nominations, something which I though always worked better in theory than practice, so I think this was their attempt at a twist on that. I think had it been a more even vote it wouldn't be worthy of any discussion but the way it panned out wasn't great. I wouldn't over analyse it though and say it's school yard bullying or anything like that - it's no different to a unanimous vote in the current format even if it is slightly more brutal. Possibly better to be voted out by 90% of your housemates than 90% of the viewers at home too.
 
yes whoever had final say there was surely ignoring at least one person flagging it. Surely Carmel (or her 2014 equivalent) pointed out that this had the potential to be highly damaging.

I’m trying to imagine it in 2012 if a similar situation had played out with Estelle. Not like they hadn’t seen bullying and exclusion first hand on the show before.
 
I don't think there is much to suggest Gemma was damaged by it though is there? Yes, uncomfortable it may be but so is being the first evictee anyway.
 
Brekkie said:
I don't think there is much to suggest Gemma was damaged by it though is there? Yes, uncomfortable it may be but so is being the first evictee anyway.
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IMO the difference is that in the US version the houseguests go in expecting a game, they enter with a completely different mindset. The 2014 housemates went in with a different mindset, the strategy is different. The part that made it uncomfortable was making them all stand behind the person. It's humiliation. Gemma knew she was going to go but it was all rubbed in her face.
 
I’m sure Gemma is over it by now (but maybe not) but it definitely bothered her at the time, far beyond the regular scope of being the first evictee. I remember that she loved Jake for choosing her and said this many times, so she was obviously someone valued being liked and chosen quite highly, and possibly had previously experienced this not being the case.

Probably not lifelong damage, but the embarrassment can linger around and they can show up or be triggered in unexpected ways.
 
jessy_girl said:
I’m sure Gemma is over it by now (but maybe not) but it definitely bothered her at the time, far beyond the regular scope of being the first evictee. I remember that she loved Jake for choosing her and said this many times, so she was obviously someone valued being liked and chosen quite highly, and possibly had previously experienced this not being the case.

Probably not lifelong damage, but the embarrassment can linger around and they can show up or be triggered in unexpected ways.
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It’s the embarrassment that the situation causes that makes it as bad as it is. It’s not that she was evicted, she saw it coming, it’s just how much of a kick in the guts it was.
 
Still working through 2006 series.
Watching Friday Night live number 7.
Gotta say-Gaelan's french dancing for 30 seconds is one of the most ridiculous yet hilarious things Ive ever seen.
Ive re-watched it about 10 times and still cannot help laughing like a loon.
 
I don't think I ever actually watched a full episode of FNL. Think I tried one once but didn't make it to the end.
 
Brekkie said:
I don't think I ever actually watched a full episode of FNL. Think I tried one once but didn't make it to the end.
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They are hella long and watching it on a watch through can be very tedious. Because it’s 70min FNL, 50-70min eviction depending if they have the daily show in the eviction or there’s a special something. Then it’s Monday show followed by 50min Noms and for ‘05 & ‘06 I believe 40-50mins Uncut episode.
 
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