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The Bachelor 2017

No more retread Bachelors. They iron out all the good bits. The only time I've seen the Matty J I adored on Georgia's season is in that little talking head interspliced with Tara's brother where he did that funny imitation of going to clink his beer and being rebuffed by whatsisname. He' s just been so aware of the cameras and stiff and argh.... I don't think this was a very good pool of women either, really. I miss the old days.

...all that apart though Melore... he doesn't have much personality anyway that I've noticed from watching this show... I also think that he's pretty shallow too to be honest... he seems to be so obsessed in making sure that he's always perfectly posed so as to look the best at all times... he seems so superficial to me... he doesn't deserve any of these girls as far as I'm concerned anyway... then again... I am looking at it from a males perspective so...

I agree. They end up being so boooring after production gets them "ready" for the role. The same thing happened with Ritchie.

...I didn't see that season FatPants but as I said above... Matty doesn't appear to have any personality anyway... after Production have had their way with him in the coaching of him they've taken out any 'sparkle' that he MAY have had left anyway... such is the price of becoming a 'famewhore' I guess?... cheers.
 
maybe its a case of a person being a good supporting actor but a shit lead actor? I didn't watch him last year but I know that Ritchie didn't make the transition too well. They do ok when we don't have to see them the whole time. I can't imagine any of the girls from this year would have the personality to be an interesting bachelorette. Although maybe seeing a leah or Jen do it would make for good train wreck tv?
 
Matty was lovable in the bachelorette. He was fun and I wanted him to be the winner and I was sad for him when he wasn't. Production definitely coached him and ironed out any sense of personality. There is a lot riding on being the Bachelor and carrying the show so I guess that is part of it.
 
Florence Says She "Felt at Peace" When Matty Didn't Give Her a Rose

Hometown dates have come and gone on The Bachelor, and as terrifying and awkward as they may be, they're a great eye-opener as to whether the relationship is going to work out IRL. After meeting the families of Tara, Florence, Laura and Elise on Thursday night, Matty chose to let Florence go. It was a cool, calm and collected departure as far as Bachelor exits go at this stage of the show — without any waterworks from the 28-year-old. In fact, Florence told us it actually felt very right to leave at that point.
POPSUGAR Australia: We are sad to see you leave!

Florence: Aww, thank you! I appreciate that, but don't be sad, because I wasn't too upset.

PS: How come?

Florence: I think when he sent me home, it felt right. I didn't realise it before it actually happened, because I really liked him — he's a champion, he's amazing — but I wasn't in love at that point, and that made me feel quite anxious. It was so close to the end, and when he didn't give me the rose, I felt at peace! I didn't cry, and it just felt right, and sometimes that's what you need — someone else to make a decision for you. I don't think we were ever meant to be, so it's all good.

PS: Did you feel like if you'd stayed longer, that you should have been in love with him?

Florence: Yeah, that was something that I was struggling with, because I need time for that. I really liked him, I think I could've developed it, but is that something you want to develop? You just want love to hit you — meet someone and be like, oh my god, I'm feeling butterflies and my whole body is like a roller-coaster and it's crazy what's happening to me — rather than developing feelings and focusing on developing feelings. That's why I think it wasn't meant to be. I definitely would've felt a bit forced to feel that way about him, so I think he made a good decision.

PS: How do you feel your hometown date went?

Florence: I liked it! It was really good to see my friends again, but I noticed they were like, "This is not it, Florence. You're holding back and we don't see it from your side." So it was also a bit of an eye-opener, but other than that, I really liked it — it was a lot of fun.

PS: Yeah, sometimes you need someone else on the outside to give you clarity.

Florence: Yeah, they gave me one look and they were like, "You're holding back." I was like, "No I'm not, I really like him." [My friend] just gave me this look, like, mmm. That was it, and then I started thinking, maybe she's right. I was the first person to do home visits, so I was by myself for a week in an apartment in Sydney and it gave me a lot of time to think.

PS: What do you think about the top three?

Florence: I think it's going to be a hard decision for him to make. But it's not a competition — it's all about love. I think all three of them are amazing.

PS: Who do you think has the strongest connection with him?

Florence: It's so hard to tell! But if you were to ask me who were to win, my money is on Elise. But Laura and Tara are strong contenders as well. I can see the chemistry between him and Tara, and Laura is just so beautiful and so intelligent, and so is Elise, so it's hard! I don't know, I just don't know! [Laughs] I would pick all three if I were him, but you can't really do that, can you?!


PS: Do you have any highlights from your time on the show?

Florence: It was just such an amazing experience in general. Living with the girls, waking up and going to the TV room, sitting there in your pyjamas watching Netflix, making breakfast for each other, all the dates with Matty, being part of such a big production . . . I loved every second of it. Loved it.

PS: Would you do it again?

Florence: Not to find love, but I would definitely do television again. It's just so exciting and like I said, I loved every second of it. To see the producers do their jobs and see how it all goes, that was fascinating. But I wouldn't go on another show to find love, I might just find someone along the way! [Laughs]

PS: Did you ever feel bad cheating on that date?

Florence: No, sorry! [Laughs] It seemed a bit worse than it was on TV, of course. When I ran over to the finish line, I said, "Don't get excited Matty, I cheated", so he already knew before I confessed. We had a laugh, and then I told Elora and Simone and we also had a laugh. It was funny and playful, I thought they would disqualify me and the runner-up would win, but they didn't. We were making television, and all is fair in love and war, and I was happy to get the extra time with Matty. They also didn't give out any rules to play the game, so technically I didn't do anything wrong.

PS: What surprised you about being on the show?

Florence: That you can form real friendships. Every time I see one of the girls, it feels like seeing a sister. It's amazing, seriously, they make me so happy. When I meet up with Lisa, Elise, Simone or Laura, I'm pumped to see them — it's just such a strong connection. I think we all did find love — it sounds really cheesy and cliché, but you find friends for life. It did surprise me that you can develop real friendships on a show like that.

PS: Where are you at with finding love now?

Florence: Well, I'm not heartbroken, so I'm still open to it. I'm just really, really picky and I'm not a serial dater. I know when I meet someone whether I'm going to like them or not, and that rarely happens, unfortunately. It's not like I have a whole list of requirements or what I'm looking for in a guy, it's more of like an instant yes or no when I see someone — it's all about chemistry and connection. At first conversation, I'll know if I'm attracted to you or not, and you need that to develop anything further. I haven't been in love many times and don't fall in love easily, so we'll see! It will come one day.


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maybe its a case of a person being a good supporting actor but a shit lead actor? I didn't watch him last year but I know that Ritchie didn't make the transition too well. They do ok when we don't have to see them the whole time. I can't imagine any of the girls from this year would have the personality to be an interesting bachelorette. Although maybe seeing a leah or Jen do it would make for good train wreck tv?

...I actually do agree with what you said about Matty just being a completely shit actor Isee... he comes across as the 'little train that couldn't' I'm afraid... I've noticed quite a few of you previous viewers of other seasons saying that Matty was quite 'adorable' last season and have sadly changed your views on him while being the figurehead of this series... it seems quite obvious that he won a few of you over last year because he was just being himself most likely... assuming that... it must mean that he's just a lousy 'actor' this season doesn't it?... perhaps underneath that wooden actor appearance lies a nice bloke but sadly... we're never going to see it are we?... lol!...

...and... if Leah or Jen did become The Bachelorette... they'd have to give them the 'good edit' instead of the 'bitch edit' so it would be a really different person that we would see that time... especially if it was Jen... I'd love to see Jen do it!... it would be quite a ride alright lol!... cheers.
 
...I actually do agree with what you said about Matty just being a completely shit actor Isee... he comes across as the 'little train that couldn't' I'm afraid... I've noticed quite a few of you previous viewers of other seasons saying that Matty was quite 'adorable' last season and have sadly changed your views on him while being the figurehead of this series... it seems quite obvious that he won a few of you over last year because he was just being himself most likely... assuming that... it must mean that he's just a lousy 'actor' this season doesn't it?... perhaps underneath that wooden actor appearance lies a nice bloke but sadly... we're never going to see it are we?... lol!...

...and... if Leah or Jen did become The Bachelorette... they'd have to give them the 'good edit' instead of the 'bitch edit' so it would be a really different person that we would see that time... especially if it was Jen... I'd love to see Jen do it!... it would be quite a ride alright lol!... cheers.
I never watched lat year to see the "good" Matty, so to me he comes across probably similar as he does to you Mr S - weedy, weaselly,wuss with an over-inflated ego, and limited make-out moves. I know its a difficult position to be in, but the ungentlemanlyness (like not walking these girls out to the car, and saying a proper goodbye) speaks volumes about him to me. I don't mind some of my favs have gone, because I think they deserve better than this guy. I actually cannot see it lasting with any of the three left, as they would need to diminish too much of themselves to be with him.
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I never watched lat year to see the "good" Matty, so to me he comes across probably similar as he does to you Mr S - weedy, weaselly,wuss with an over-inflated ego, and limited make-out moves. I know its a difficult position to be in, but the ungentlemanlyness (like not walking these girls out to the car, and saying a proper goodbye) speaks volumes about him to me. I don't mind some of my favs have gone, because I think they deserve better than this guy. I actually cannot see it lasting with any of the three left, as they would need to diminish too much of themselves to be with him.
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...what a great post Isee... yes that is a good indication of the real him when he doesn't walk them out properly Isee... I totally agree... and spot on again about them having to be dimishing themselves to be with him too... some great points there Isee... cheers.
 
although having said that...there is some crazy desperation eyes going on here! (thanks news.com.au!)
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...Laura sure does have those killer/stalker eyes doesn't she?... she really seems to 'jump the gun' so to speak sometimes doesn't she?... thanks for supplying that image Isee... lol!... cheers.

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Like everyone here, I correctly guessed Florence was going, especially after the "what if she moves back to Holland" crap. And his goodbye was cold. For someone he was pretending he had an equal quarter chance of falling in love with, it was like kthanxbai, NEXT!

Lucky escape Flo.
 
...I seriously have to say... I'm so shocked that I've stuck with my 1st season of this schmaltz until the end to be honest lol!... but... I did make a commitment to some friends on here so... cheers.

Schmaltz is what it is Mr Sticky. Half-hearted declarations of being in "like" with someone, while looking like a stunned mullet if they don't use the "L" word in return. Bunches of flowers and zooming in for a pash in place of any actual personality.
 
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