The Bachelor 2017

[crimmy]

I was waiting for Florence to admit to the others she cheated ... then Elora would have gone all out cat fight ...

I find Elora a bit unconvincing somehow ... she's shown a very catty side

I loved Michelle's one liners with Jen tonight 'yeah right .. soul ... as if you've got one!" (or somethingclose to that anyway)

I was glad last night one of the girls called Elora out for her "Did he tip you?" comment towards Leah ... I dont like Leahbut that was uncalled for ... you can afford to be gracious when someone is on their way out of the competition ... going down in flames in fact

and yes Sharlene ... what a train wreck that was ... but at least Matty didnt string her along with bullshit. No spark there so why should he have to keep her

I wasnt surprised Stephanie went ... but was hoping it would also be Jen heading home with her ... Alix obviously annoyed Matty with her constant paranoid chatter about bring one of many last night ... I found her nicer than Jen and Elora

Matty really doesnt do it for me ... I dont think we see the genuine person ... its too produced and scripted ...

so much for it being a blonde on the single overnight date ...pfft ... according to Woeful Day online they quoted a source saying they DID spend time together after the cameras went home so who knows what went on ...

for the sake of peace in the house they would never have gone back and said "Yeah we totally did it last night ... so whose up for a date with me now?"

so Jen and Michelle are maybe the only 2 who havent been on a single date now and again he's 2nd dating someone ... seems poor form to me ... give them all a single date .. weed them out ... show them the door but at least give them the opportunity to introduce themselves properly

oh and how delusional did Sharlene prove herself to be "there could definitely be something there" to " he doesnt like pugs (bzzzzt) he doesnt like musical theatre (bzzzzzt) he totally isnt into martial arts (bzzzzzt) ... he doesnt like the smell of desperation in his secret garden girl!!!!


remind me again why we watch this?



(bzzzzt) being the sound of a quiz show buzzer when you answer a question incorrectly

 

[Petals]

My daughter told me I am cruel, but as much as Alix is beautiful, I just can't stop seeing her resemblence to an afghan hound.

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

...tonight's show really was pitiful tonight... the way that he treated Sharlene was disgraceful to say the least... but I think that she was the lucky one tonight if you ask me lol!... what I think of it... cheers.

 

[Isee]

I have to admit I am conflicted about the sharlene thing. I don't know if it was handled the best but the reality was she approached him and asked the question. He didn't feel a connection and quite possible she would have gone home in the rose ceremony. It would have been worse if lied to her just to send her home. But how do you let someone down in that scenario without looking like a prat?

 

[crimmy]

I have to admit I am conflicted about the sharlene thing. I don't know if it was handled the best but the reality was she approached him and asked the question. He didn't feel a connection and quite possible she would have gone home in the rose ceremony. It would have been worse if lied to her just to send her home. But how do you let someone down in that scenario without looking like a prat?

agreed - you ask the question - you wear the answer
she looked stupid when she went from 0 " there could be something" to 10000 "there cant be anything ... he does like pugs etc" in a blink of an eye ... or rather after hearing the cold hard truth .... no spark - no point

nothing good was ever going to come from her forcing the issue

who would want a guy who only when challenged would offer up an invite anyway

 

[crimmy]

My daughter told me I am cruel, but as much as Alix is beautiful, I just can't stop seeing her resemblence to an afghan hound.

I'm with your daughter - shes lovely

 

[Lyf]

I thought Matty could have come across a bit kinder (while still being honest) with Sharlene. And I feel like he could have done a bit more for Alix as well after he didn't give her a rose... after all they did have a single date together, the least he could do was walk her out and have a few words with her alone so it was a bit more personal and not just the bare minimum of "no rose, game over"? Have to say Bachelor Sam Wood did kind of set the standard there for me if I recall correctly. And I think Sam Frost did similar for the guys she went on single dates with, too.

 

[Affable]

Have to say Bachelor Sam Wood did kind of set the standard there for me if I recall correctly

That's because he seemed like a gentleman. My favourite in all the Bachelor series.

 

[Desertsands]

...not this one at least kxk... I don't think that she's that pretty at all to be honest... the only female that would be my type in this bunch is Michelle the cop... she's got the most honest type of personality out of all of them as far as I'm concerned... and is the most grounded too... I hope that he ends up with her in the end too... cheers.

You are very funny Mr Sticky. Can't believe that I've become a survivor fan. As you are a Batchie fan.

 

[Melore]

I hate the fact he's already taking retreads on second dates. It's boring, and it's cruel to the others. I want to see Michelle get a date. Lisa get a proper date, etc. Elora was boring the first time, and whoever is next I already have no interest in!

I felt sorry for Sharlene, trying to recover from that rejection, after plucking up the courage to go and talk to him after a month the poor woman, all the spin to the girls, I'm going, he's not for me - not, he just told me there's no spark there and sent me packing - then the revised version to a small group - then her list of stuff they don't have in common, pugs, musical theatre, etc for the camera - followed by her mouth making the saddest little rectangular shape at the very end. Ouch.

 

[Desertsands]

...I'll be honest with you all... I think that Jennifer is really pretty... only on the outside unfortunately... a shame really but that could be just down to the editing of course ... cheers.

She is quite a bit

...Matty just wants a bonk that's all... he won't end up with Elora... she's not blond and also looks nothing like his sister so she's 'giving herself' for nothing methinks!... cheers.

Agree mr stick.

 

[Desertsands]

...haha!... his idea of 'romance' is violins in the background and suddenly lunging forward to 'take the girls breath away' and start a slow passionate grind of tonsil hockey while commanding the situation 'HIS WAY'... he thinks that he's in an Audrey Hepburn and Cary Grant movie or something... he's probably rehearsed that move with his hand a million times before in his bedroom... alone... he needs to lose his virginity and be done with it I reckon... this isn't the 1950's Matty boy...

...I'm all for romance (being a die hard romantic myself) but the schmaltzy cheesy sort of 'romance' that Matty feels that he has to do for the cameras is actually soooooo cringey to watch for me... romance is about how in love that you feel at the time... not about how you 'think' that romance should be... if you have to 'rehearse' romance then you are not a romantic... it happens naturally... anyhow... I'll shut up now... cheers.

Now that is a tad weird. Don't know why.

 

[kxk]

Bachelor's ex.............think I would be begging the ex to take me back

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

You are very funny Mr Sticky. Can't believe that I've become a survivor fan. As you are a Batchie fan.

... hahaha!... I'm not doing bad for someone that was only coming over here to 'The Bachelor' just to check out 1 or 2 episodes because a few of you talked me into it eh?... as we did with yourself watching 'Survivot' Desertsands lol!... I would NEVER had voluntarily watched The Bachelor otherwise... lol!... and... I am getting an amazing education on how much women can be so mean and bitchy towards each other in a group lol!... what an eye opener that is!... lol!... cheers.

 

[FatPants]

Sharlene on Matty J: "I Was Starting to Question Why I Was Still Getting a Rose"
17 August, 2017 by Genevieve Rota

We hopped on the phone with the Victorian wedding planner to ask her everything we could about her time in the mansion.

POPSUGAR Australia: I'm sad to see you go tonight. Can you tell me a bit about what happens?

Sharlene: Sure. My time in the house was great. I didn't spend a lot of time with Matty and after six — how long has it been? Four weeks, how long has it been on air?

PS: This is the fourth week.

Sharlene: Fourth week. So I guess I was in the house, or in the process, for six weeks and I was sort of starting to question why I was still getting a rose every week.

PS: Right.

Sharlene: And I didn't really know where it was going. So I decided, you know what? If it was in real time, in the outside world, I'd like to sit down and have a chat and be like, "Look, is this going anywhere?" If not, then no, if yes, great. And Matty was absolutely honest about it and I'm so glad that we had the conversation. I wouldn't have changed a thing.

PS: Did he say to you that he just didn't feel like it was right?

Sharlene: He said some lovely things. He said that there was a lot about me that he liked, but the connection wasn't there — when he did say there was no romantic connection, I kind of was a bit shocked that that's the way the conversation was headed. But when he did say that, I was like, "You know what? You're probably right."

PS: Did you get much time with him at all?

Sharlene: No, not at all. I got about . . . like, five minutes on air. [In real life] it was like 27 minutes with him. I seriously think that I could count on both hands how many minutes we spent together. We just didn't get a lot of time together. It just left me confused because all I thought was, "That's fair enough, we don't have a romantic connection . . . but why have I still gotten a rose every week?"

PS: Did he answer that?

Sharlene: I didn't ask him that, that was just going through my mind.

PS: Did you feel like you had a connection with Matty at all?

Sharlene: I don't believe in love at first sight but I definitely thought, he's a great person, he's gorgeous. I'm sure I could develop feelings for him. But there was no, like . . . it's not like I looked at him and thought straight away, "Oh, I just want to rip his shirt off." I just thought, you seem like a lovely man and I'm sure that I would develop feelings for you if we spent time together. But we just didn't get that chance.

PS: Well normally you probably wouldn't know straight away if you were going to be in love with someone.

Sharlene: Not at all, not at all. You know, I'm a wedding planner and I see marriages and couples all the time — you don't really hear about many couples who say, "I saw this person in the supermarket and married them." You know? You hear about connections growing over time. I guess I'm past the point in my life where I turn lust into the thought of a relationship. It's got to be more than that for me and I just didn't have the opportunity to explore that with Matty.

PS: How did you feel when you said your goodbyes? Were you sad to leave or did you feel relieved?

Sharlene: I had mixed emotions. Obviously I was shocked that that's the way the conversation had panned out, because it's not like I expected to have that sort of ending. But at the same time, I was so relieved and so happy that he was honest with me. I thought the worst thing that he could have done would be to say, "No, no, you're safe," and then not give me a rose. I think it was really great that he was upfront with me and it was a really, on his behalf, a lovely thing to do.

PS: I loved last night when you told Elora she was out of line.

Sharlene: Yep.

PS: Was that kind of your role in the house, to call people out when they were being a bit harsh?

Sharlene: I'm quite a diplomatic person. I look at every situation from a neutral third-party perspective and sort of exercise my moral compass and I'm able to determine, whether I'm friends with that person or not, if they're right or wrong. And I wasn't necessarily best friends with Leah in the house but I didn't agree with the way that Elora spoke to her in that situation. I thought it was completely unnecessary, she was already under pressure, she was already embarrassed. There's no reason to . . . throw salt on the wound, you know what I mean? Like dig that knife a little deeper. I think that was Elora's intention there and little comments like that tick me off and I just don't stand for them, so I had no issue speaking up.

PS: Did Elora show any remorse after that?

Sharlene: No, no, she was totally fine with what she said and that's completely her prerogative. She had her reasons for feeling that way and obviously Leah did upset quite a few people in that house, but that comment was just completely unnecessary. I didn't see the reason for it in that conversation.

PS: Did we see the real Leah and Elora on TV?

Sharlene: I definitely don't think that you can put words into someone's mouth. So obviously everything that everyone said in that house, they consciously said. The whole context of the conversation isn't always included but it is always spoken from that person's mouth. I wouldn't say that we were best friends but I respect everybody in that house and I think they've definitely got some great qualities, those girls.

PS: And who are friends with from the house?

Sharlene: Michelle.

PS: I love Michelle. What's she like to live with?

Sharlene: Michelle is a lovely girl. She is very strong, she's very to the point, concise. As a police officer, I think her profession has impacted on her personal life in the sense that she's a very strong, independent woman. And she was a big support for me in the house.

PS: In tonight's episode everyone was really scandalised by Elora going on the date.

Sharlene: Mm-hmm.

PS: How did you feel about it?

Sharlene: Look, in the back of mind, even though there was speculation about an overnight date, I always knew that Matty wasn't probably the type of guy who would throw in a sleepover with one of the girls half-way through the show. So my initial thought was a bit of speculation like everybody else, but I didn't think that Elora was going home, and I didn't think that they would have an overnight date. So I really thought it was just a bit of a spanner in the works and that nothing would eventuate from it.

PS: Were you annoyed by it?

Sharlene: I think a few of the girls were a little bit annoyed that Elora had a second date before some of the other girls got their first date.

PS: How does it feel when people go on a second date before some have had their first?

Sharlene: It is really frustrating. It's hard, it's a hard situation. You do sort of sit there and wonder, well, he must really like that person — what's going on? A few of the girls were a little bit confused. So I can imagine how difficult it would have been for some of the other girls and for me it was kind of like, you sort of start to question why. And obviously surrounded by so many other women, you think, "This is such a hard process, I really just want to know if it's worth staying on for, or if I'm just going to be strung along for another week." So I think like any relationship, people would just want to seek some answers.

PS: Did you enjoy the experience overall?

Sharlene: 100 percent, it was fantastic.

PS: I'm glad to hear that. Thanks for being great to watch!

Sharlene: What you saw of me [laughs]! For the whole 30 seconds!

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[crimmy]

... hahaha!... I'm not doing bad for someone that was only coming over here to 'The Bachelor' just to check out 1 or 2 episodes because a few of you talked me into it eh?... as we did with yourself watching 'Survivot' Desertsands lol!... I would NEVER had voluntarily watched The Bachelor otherwise... lol!... and... I am getting an amazing education on how much women can be so mean and bitchy towards each other in a group lol!... what an eye opener that is!... lol!... cheers.

the bitchiness is horrendous and shameful - but not so surprising given the circumstances and also given that some are there for all the wrong reasons anyway

I've enjoyed seeing Michelle shut Jen down quickly with a concise one liner ... and also when some of the others started bitching she said she was leaving (the area they were sitting in) as she didn't want to be involved in it

come on Matty J - take Michelle on a date already!!! They may not end up having any chemistry together but she deserves a chance.

I know Matty seems keen on Elora but she's been catty a few times and the comment "Did he tip you?" to Leah wasn't called for

The women can afford to show a bit of decorum and class - they don't HAVE to be total bogans in an effort to gain attention. Same with the way they dress - always maintain leaving something to the imagination is wayyyyy more appealing than just letting it all hang out in every direction possible (ie Leahs black horror of a dress on the first night)

 

[crimmy]

just as a matter of curiousity - with all the talk about Michelle not getting a single date before others go on their 2nd date ...

in the Bachelorette Matty didn't get a single date with Georgia until week 8 ... Courtney by that time had had two dates AND the first impression rose ... but he was the only one who'd had 2 dates before Matty even got a look in ...

so there's hope for Michelle yet ... but he shouldn't wait too long!!!

<don't care about Jen because I don't like her>

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

PS: I'm glad to hear that. Thanks for being great to watch!

Sharlene: What you saw of me [laughs]! For the whole 30 seconds!

...hahaha!... how true is that statement by her?... lol!... it goes the same for Michelle the cop too.... how about giving the best one out of them all a go on a single date Matty you moron!...(what's the bet that he does after what Sharlene said eh?)... and why would you ask a girl on a second date when some of them have never been ffs?... he couldn't give a shit that he's stringing them along like dogs on a leash... I still stand by what I said that after his public humiliation on National TV when he was rejected at the end of Bachelorette that he's 'punishing' some of the girls on this show by being so 'dismissive' of their feelings at times as he was with Sharlene last night...

...of course she wanted answers as to why he's second dating some girls without giving others the time of day yet keeps giving them a Rose week after week... at least Sharlene's released from that madness now... and good on her for 'upping' him and bruising his ever growing ego along the way lol!... cheers.

 

[Meglos]

Lots of talk about Michelle, which one is that?[DOUBLEPOST=1503031249][/DOUBLEPOST]Never mind, Mr Sticky just said she's the cop, I know her now.

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

the bitchiness is horrendous and shameful - but not so surprising given the circumstances and also given that some are there for all the wrong reasons anyway

I've enjoyed seeing Michelle shut Jen down quickly with a concise one liner ... and also when some of the others started bitching she said she was leaving (the area they were sitting in) as she didn't want to be involved in it

come on Matty J - take Michelle on a date already!!! They may not end up having any chemistry together but she deserves a chance.

I know Matty seems keen on Elora but she's been catty a few times and the comment "Did he tip you?" to Leah wasn't called for

The women can afford to show a bit of decorum and class - they don't HAVE to be total bogans in an effort to gain attention. Same with the way they dress - always maintain leaving something to the imagination is wayyyyy more appealing than just letting it all hang out in every direction possible (ie Leahs black horror of a dress on the first night)

just as a matter of curiousity - with all the talk about Michelle not getting a single date before others go on their 2nd date ...

in the Bachelorette Matty didn't get a single date with Georgia until week 8 ... Courtney by that time had had two dates AND the first impression rose ... but he was the only one who'd had 2 dates before Matty even got a look in ...

so there's hope for Michelle yet ... but he shouldn't wait too long!!!

<don't care about Jen because I don't like her>

...I've said before crimmy that I think that Michelle the cop is the prettiest/most honest/most levelled-headed/most grounded and least bitchiest one out of all of them... I hope that the idiot ends up with her in the end too... (although... lucky him if he does... bad luck for her if she does in my opinion lol!)... run Michelle!... RUN WHILE YOU CAN!... if he doesn't end up with Michelle... then Jennifer...

...I really like Jennifer even though she's a 'bitch' according to the editing and the way that the Producers have her earmarked as the resident villain... although... if she won this then it might end up that she's a really nice person on the inside away from competing with the other slabs of meat... erm... I mean slaves.... oopsies!... I mean Bachelorettes in the house... Jennifer's also much prettier than all of them but Michelle in my opinion... in fact... I really can't stand the rest of them at all... but that's just me I guess?... cheers.