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iJake said:
Yeah, I vaguely saw something about that on Twitter. I didn't care enough to seek out the details, though.
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Still it does go to show how the day has been ruined by crass commercialism and hijacked by right wing idealogues such as John Howard who used to day to advance their own agenda.
 
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reepbot said:
Still it does go to show how the day has been ruined by crass commercialism and hijacked by right wing idealogues such as John Howard who used to day to advance their own agenda.
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Yeah. Look, I tend to have quite "disrespectful" opinions of things like this in general, so it's probably best I keep my mouth shut, aha.
 
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iJake said:
Yeah. Look, I tend to have quite "disrespectful" opinions of things like this in general, so it's probably best I keep my mouth shut, aha.
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Oh, ok. Still you should be allowed to comment on ANZAC day without fear of being shouted down for having a 'disrespectful' opinion.
 
Jam said:
We were supporting an imperialist war on foreign soil. It was tragic that so many of our young men and so many Turkish young men were killed for the sake of political gain. It is a very tragic and very dark example of the horrors of war.
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and I am sure that all those young men, had no idea - back 100 years ago- what the hell was going to happen when they arrived!

Anyway, I just remember the stories my Mum passed onto me, from my Grandads time. He was buried alive, but his mates saved him.
At least he made it to the trenches and actually dodged the bullets, and came home to make sure I was born!
 
jessy_girl said:
Yes who is that blonde girl in the black and white stripes, does anybody know? She looks really familiar but I can't place her. I'm just hoping she's not from something embarrassing now that I'll have to pretend I've never seen.
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not sure if it's already been answered here or not

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reepbot said:
I was curious. Then you explained yourself and my curiousity subsided.
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You make it sound like I was the one that cared from the outset when in fact I only responded to your curiosity out of politeness. I'm not sure why you had to say that you didn't care anymore, all you had to do was stop quoting me. :thumbsup:
 
hooleydooley said:
and I am sure that all those young men, had no idea - back 100 years ago- what the hell was going to happen when they arrived!

Anyway, I just remember the stories my Mum passed onto me, from my Grandads time. He was buried alive, but his mates saved him.
At least he made it to the trenches and actually dodged the bullets, and came home to make sure I was born!
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Good for him, hooley! I'm sure that mateship was strong and absolutely necessary for survival on the battlefield. Those boys did make a sacrifice, but it wasn't for us and it wasn't for themselves; it was to further the agenda of the usual suspects in government and big business. I'm appalled that the day is now just a vehicle used by our politicians for political rhetoric and to jockey for the position of being seen as the most 'Aussie'. They now use Anzac Day as a tool to promote a nationalism that excludes those who come from a different heritage, which is yet another tragedy.
 
Connoisseur said:
You make it sound like I was the one that cared from the outset when in fact I only responded to your curiosity out of politeness. I'm not sure why you had to say that you didn't care anymore, all you had to do was stop quoting me. :thumbsup:
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Well I guess neither of us really cared then.
 
jessy_girl said:
I really think everyone should experience something like this at least once. It's one thing to learn about at it school or independently, but it changes everything when you can hear about in any way similar to what you've described. I am a pacifist and actually don't support war or battle in anyway, but I will always support our troops and obviously like any rational person I'll always be grateful for their sacrifices. I can't begin to imagine living how they lived even for a day.
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hooleydooley said:
Yes, this is the point.

My Granddad came back a very bitter and twisted man.

I don't see ANZAC Day as War glorification at all!!
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This is exactly how I see it. Regardless of the wrongs of war, the bravery and sacrifice of the people that fought should be remembered. I don't see ANZAC Day as a celebration of war at all but rather a way of remembering and appreciating the incredible courage they needed to do what they did. A lot of them were conscripted, a lot of them just fought because they were told their country needed them...in most instances they were placed in a war that wasn't even theirs to fight which was particularly true for the Aussies sent to Gallipoli in WWI. They didn't even know what they were getting themselves into.
 
Jam said:
Good for him, hooley! I'm sure that mateship was strong and absolutely necessary for survival on the battlefield. Those boys did make a sacrifice, but it wasn't for us and it wasn't for themselves; it was to further the agenda of the usual suspects in government and big business. I'm appalled that the day is now just a vehicle used by our politicians for political rhetoric and to jockey for the position of being seen as the most 'Aussie'. They now use Anzac Day as a tool to promote a nationalism that excludes those who come from a different heritage, which is yet another tragedy.
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Yup, yup. And that's basically why I don't really "care" about ANZAC Day. I totally get how it can affect individuals who were involved or who have some sort of connection to those involved, but it really is (as @reepbot said for himself) just another day for me. I barely feel anything, if I'm being totally honest.
 
There's a really lovely display of 40,000 knitted poppies in the memorial garden in Gosford (my local area) to commemorate the centenary.

Link with a pic: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-...gosford-ahead-of-anzac-day-commemorat/6398408

I hope this crazy wind and rain hasn't blown them all away. I haven't been to a dawn service for a couple of years, since the passing of my Grandmother who served as a gunner in WW2 but I am thinking about going this year.
 
iJake said:
Yup, yup. And that's basically why I don't really "care" about ANZAC Day. I totally get how it can affect individuals who were involved or who have some sort of connection to those involved, but it really is (as @reepbot said for himself) just another day for me. I barely feel anything, if I'm being totally honest.
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I kind of don't feel anything either. I do support our troops of course, especially in getting the support they need once they leave the armed forces.
 
Jam said:
Good for him, hooley! I'm sure that mateship was strong and absolutely necessary for survival on the battlefield. Those boys did make a sacrifice, but it wasn't for us and it wasn't for themselves; it was to further the agenda of the usual suspects in government and big business. I'm appalled that the day is now just a vehicle used by our politicians for political rhetoric and to jockey for the position of being seen as the most 'Aussie'. They now use Anzac Day as a tool to promote a nationalism that excludes those who come from a different heritage, which is yet another tragedy.
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Pretty Fucked up World, I see at times :(
 
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reepbot said:
I kind of don't feel anything either. I do support our troops of course, especially in getting the support they need once they leave the armed forces.
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I agree, to a point. I think I support the troops to a point. I'm just not a fan of war at all and I do have a friend who used to be in the army and I honestly feel a little uncomfortable around him sometimes simply for the fact that he did serve and the way in which he talks about it. That's probably awful of me, but it's how I feel. I did, however, meet someone from the army at a bar about four months ago and I was very vocal about my issues and he did (from what I remember, anyway) somewhat put my mind to ease and made me feel a little bit better about what the army... represents, I suppose.
 
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