Big Brother UK season 15 - SPOILERS

[Mr Stickyfingers]

Can you guys imagine Gretel Killeen interviewing the likes of Ash, Marlon, and Winston??

...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!... that would be magical to watch!... seriously funny insider06!!!...

To wrap up my latest thoughts on the housemates, I have to have a mini rant about Kimberley. Everything about her is annoying me now. Whenever she is on screen I cringe. Her facial expressions when she grimaces, her flat voice with the weird accent, her friendship/love interest with Helen and Steven. At one stage I thought she was the most attractive girl in there with an interesting, intelligent side to her personality but now I think she is just an annoying bore. Is it just me?

...yep!... I have to agree with you on Kimberly... she had so much potential when she first went in... now that it's been revealed that she has a boyfriend on the outside and Steve is being played for the massive chump that he is makes me watch her for that reason alone!... Steve's pathetic schmoozing up to her makes me puke... he is so pathetically useless in the art of seduction with his corny chat up lines that it's cringe-worthy TV at it's worse... I can't wait to see his face when he is evicted and told about her boyfriend on the outside... that will be brilliant TV right there folks!!!... lol!... cheers.

 

[the Theorist]

Can you guys imagine Gretel Killeen interviewing the likes of Ash, Marlon, and Winston??

It's actually so funny you mentioned this. At one point during Toya's eviction episode, I totally imagined Gretel turning around to silence that audience.

Remember her hey-days... "Will you all just shut up. We only have 10 minutes left on air. You came here to see a housemate and listen to them speak, so stop shouting and let them talk" .

I miss Gretel FYI.

 

[insider06]

It's actually so funny you mentioned this. At one point during Toya's eviction episode, I totally imagined Gretel turning around to silence that audience.

Remember her hey-days... "Will you all just shut up. We only have 10 minutes left on air. You came here to see a housemate and listen to them speak, so stop shouting and let them talk" .

I miss Gretel FYI.

I know she truly was the perfect BB host.

 

[mutleyp]

I know she truly was the perfect BB host.

Funny, I remember during her run everyone saying she is no Davina

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

...I've been bashing Helen as of late but she does make a great point with something that happened today...

Spoiler: ...wtf?... I agree with Helen!...

...during the whodunnit task today there were the 'dead' housemates in the 'morgue' Christopher/Helen/Kimberly and Marlon listening in on the 'seance' that was being performed by Mark with the rest of the 'living' housemates... Ashleigh made a comment to wussy Steve that he could..."do so much better than Kimberly"... 'Stevie-no-balls' said nothing whatsoever back to Ashleigh in regards to what she said...

...Kimberly looked really disappointed that 'Stevie-no-balls' said nothing at all to defend her... Marlon went off his tree and reverted back to his usual behaviour of saying stuff like... 'shut the fuck up' as he has done before... but seemed careful not to say too much to dig himself into a hole... he did say though that 'Stevie-no-balls' should have said something too... (perhaps there's hope for him in the long run eh?... nah!... probably not)...

...Helen did say... "Steven should have said... that's enough Ashleigh... don't speak about her like that... and there was nothing!"...

...that is so true in what Helen said... (trust me... I never thought that I would ever say those words about Helen lol!)... he should've said something... he has done his dash with Kimberly now for sure... what a wussy pussy he is!... to be honest he deserves to suffer for his inactions now... it will be fun to watch him squirm like the little ferret that he is... what a turd!...

...and Kimberly... saying indignantly to the others... do you think that he ('Stevie-no-balls') is just game playing me?"... WHAT THE FUCK??????... Kimberly you have a boyfirend of 3 years waiting for you on the outside you floss-head!!!! ... you dare to imply that you're not 'playing-the-game'?????... ...

...well it all goes to show that Ashleigh has finally decided to draw the line in the sand in regards to standing up for herself now at least... if nothing else...

...by the way... Helen really does believe that she is not a 'malicious bitch'... she seriously does!... it probably goes to show as to why she has no remorse whatsoever when it comes to what she says or does... but as I said above... she did have a point about stupid turdy 'Stevie-no-balls' though...

...anyhow... there you have it from my point of view at least... cheers.

 

[Yuame]

The shopping task this week looks great!! I love murder mysteries!!

...I've been bashing Helen as of late but she does make a great point with something that happened today...

Spoiler: ...wtf?... I agree with Helen!...

...during the whodunnit task today there were the 'dead' housemates in the 'morgue' Christopher/Helen/Kimberly and Marlon listening in on the 'seance' that was being performed by Mark with the rest of the 'living' housemates... Ashleigh made a comment to wussy Steve that he could..."do so much better than Kimberly"... 'Stevie-no-balls' said nothing whatsoever back to Ashleigh in regards to what she said...

...Kimberly looked really disappointed that 'Stevie-no-balls' said nothing at all to defend her... Marlon went off his tree and reverted back to his usual behaviour of saying stuff like... 'shut the fuck up' as he has done before... but seemed careful not to say too much to dig himself into a hole... he did say though that 'Stevie-no-balls' should have said something too... (perhaps there's hope for him in the long run eh?... nah!... probably not)...

...Helen did say... "Steven should have said... that's enough Ashleigh... don't speak about her like that... and there was nothing!"...

...that is so true in what Helen said... (trust me... I never thought that I would ever say those words about Helen lol!)... he should've said something... he has done his dash with Kimberly now for sure... what a wussy pussy he is!... to be honest he deserves to suffer for his inactions now... it will be fun to watch him squirm like the little ferret that he is... what a turd!...

...and Kimberly... saying indignantly to the others... do you think that he ('Stevie-no-balls') is just game playing me?"... WHAT THE FUCK??????... Kimberly you have a boyfirend of 3 years waiting for you on the outside you floss-head!!!! ... you dare to imply that you're not 'playing-the-game'?????... ...

...well it all goes to show that Ashleigh has finally decided to draw the line in the sand in regards to standing up for herself now at least... if nothing else...

...by the way... Helen really does believe that she is not a 'malicious bitch'... she seriously does!... it probably goes to show as to why she has no remorse whatsoever when it comes to what she says or does... but as I said above... she did have a point about stupid turdy 'Stevie-no-balls' though...

...anyhow... there you have it from my point of view at least... cheers.

Helen was right in regards to Steven. Steven if he truly likes someone should stick up for them (unless Steven is truly trying to play Kimberely, who is actually playing Steven). I've never liked Steven.

Ashleigh has been amazing!! Love her so much more now! She is not afraid to say things and bite back.

 

[Yuame]

I knew it! Danielle totally has a thing for Winston!! She would always laugh and giggle at winston even his poem and stuff. She is totally flirting and falling for him! I actually think its cute, cos you can see Winston likes it too. I'm probably the only person who thinks this.

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

I knew it! Danielle totally has a thing for Winston!! She would always laugh and giggle at winston even his poem and stuff. She is totally flirting and falling for him! I actually think its cute, cos you can see Winston likes it too. I'm probably the only person who thinks this.

...you're not the only one Yuame... I think the same... but I think that Danielle is moving towards Winston because he always gets cheers from the public when the show goes Live... these thoughts were echoed on BBOTS tonight too... so I think that is her reason at least... Winston is as dumb as dogshit at times and this could be one of those times lol!... cheers.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Spoiler

200 pounds on smokes fuck me! I checked to see how much that is is Aussie dollars and it's $363.69
A pack of 20 costs 7.98 pounds (from 20 March 2013), how many packs did they buy? I would not be happy if I were in that house and had to go without certain foods because people want to smoke.

 

[Yuame]

...you're not the only one Yuame... I think the same... but I think that Danielle is moving towards Winston because he always gets cheers from the public when the show goes Live... these thoughts were echoed on BBOTS tonight too... so I think that is her reason at least... Winston is as dumb as dogshit at times and this could be one of those times lol!... cheers.

I definitely feel its because he gets cheers and also because deep down she is a "naughty" girl and likes the buff dirty winston type.

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

...somebody on BBOTS suggested that one of the intruders that will eventually be going into the house should be Kimberly's boyfriend!... what a bloody brilliant idea that would be!!!... I would so love to see that happen... I really would!... 'Stevie-no-balls' would shrivel up and go to water... bring it on!... cheers.

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

Spoiler

200 pounds on smokes fuck me! I checked to see how much that is is Aussie dollars and it's $363.69
A pack of 20 costs 7.98 pounds (from 20 March 2013), how many packs did they buy? I would not be happy if I were in that house and had to go without certain foods because people want to smoke.

...... holy friggin' wow!!!!!... unbelievable!!!... cheers.

 

[crimmy]

why should non-smokers be penalised and miss out on food - mind you did you hear what they bought with their "luxury budget"?
in the words of the BBUK locals - BLIMEY!

 

[crimmy]

I cannot take to Danielle in any way - she does not add up at all and to me people who go into the house thinking they can be something / someone other than who they truly are is asking for trouble
Likewise how on earth could Helen ever think by going into the house she would be putting herself through some magical carwash and would come out the other side all fresh and clean of her past? All she has done is put it up into the headlines again and make even more fodder for the trashy print media to feed on ...
if you have a secret or something you want to hide or escape - you DONT go on national TV and think it won't come out ... and you wont be around to defend yourself until you're evicted and then you'll get slammed by it
if Helen wanted a new start she should have emigrated ... oh wait! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

we don't want her - keep her there!!! pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssssseee

I'm liking that Ashleigh is speaking up and was clever in manipulating the other female hm's in their decisions on who to save ... what I don't like is the going off with Danielle and bitching and moaning ... and I don't like the gloating in the DR ... those things will be her downfall with fellow HMs and with the viewers

I hope they'll show the fireworks when Ashleigh and Helen and Kimberley get to talk to one another

 

[Dystopia]

Remember the twins in last year's BBUK? One was talking to the other (or maybe someone else) about the chicks in the house. Note, I said chicks because we live in a free, democratic country and I can't be bothered to figure out what the current politcally correct title is. The twin didn't have that luxury, he was aware of his dilemma so he covered all his bases: "...the girls erm women erm females...." no, he did not include "ladies" probably being aware that this would have caused an uproar within the lesbian community in the UK.
It's come that far. We don't even know how to refer to chicks anymore, no matter what we choose, we will be wrong.

Similarely you Mr. Stickyfingers seem to be struggling to not leave the wrong impression with your fellow forumites and possibly the ASIO (who really knows?)

...to start this reply I'd like to say from the outset that I am not being a racist with this comment... I'm just merely trying to express how I personally saw Toya...

...to me... Toya had based her whole persona on the typical way that the black women talk in the USA on TV shows with the 'talk-to-my-hand-honey' and 'wiggling finger' type gestures that they love to do over there... her facial gestures and her method of talking with that familiar 'don't-talk-to-me-like-that-honey' type of tone was to be quite frank... so fake and overdone all of the time...

...don't get me wrong... there is nothing wrong with women having the self esteem and self confidence enough to take on anyone... (whether male or female)... full on in an arguement to stand up for themselves but seriously... Toya overplayed that card way too much for me... forever shoving that 'always-stand-up-for-your-rights' type of stuff down everyone's throats... she did it way too much...

...the infamous... "EVERYBODY NEEDS TO CALM THE FUCK DOWN!"...statement was the very thing that I'm talking about at it's worse in my opinion... that is when everybody on the outside had decided that they have had enough of it too... that is one of the things that eventually led to her eviction as far as I'm concerned...

Debating this season with friends, I have been referring to both, Pauline AND Toya as 'black bitch'. I know how politically incorrect this is and yet, technically it is correct. They are both black and they are both bitches... the mean kind y'know. In the U.S. this is a little easier because you can say: "That african american bitch..." it doesn't sound so bad, right? In the UK however... well, UK people tell me, what is the correct name? Is it... UK african or british african or english african... ?? Or should I simply say: "That black bitch whom I don't dislike because she's black (because that would be racist) but because she's a bitch who happens to be black... not that there is anything wrong with being black..." etc etc. RIDICULOUS!!!

Toya: I very much agree with your take on Toya, I saw everything you are mentioning. But I also saw that her 'performances' were premeditaded and calculated (Helen is not like that at all). I also saw striking similarities between Toya and Shievonne Robinson of BBUK 2012 fame.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-Shievonne-Robinson-makes-suicide-remark.html

Both were lying low for the first two or three weeks sussing out their surroundings and HMs, wisely though. But when they opened their doors to be inspected, they exploded in a rage of fury... nobody knew what hit them, where it came from. The same talking over others, the same continuous interrupting of others, the same utter disregard of the opinions of others, both bullying, screeching birds of prey with deadly fangs. Fangs, yes, I vividly recall Shievonne's hand-gestures, like a bird picking the flesh off the prey's bones. ??? EXACTLY like Toya.

Pauline and Toya have many things in common. They are both megalomaniacs, neither of them can see beyond their own greatness, neither of them showed any remorse or understanding during eviction or after (during BOTS) and both of them managed (during BOTS) to scare off even the most seasoned panellists.
I agree that they must have been raised in an environment where women have to be strong and begin to fight for their rights at an early age. It's sad though that the price they have to pay is complete loss of femininity.

 

[TullyLovesDrew]

Spoiler

200 pounds on smokes fuck me! I checked to see how much that is is Aussie dollars and it's $363.69
A pack of 20 costs 7.98 pounds (from 20 March 2013), how many packs did they buy? I would not be happy if I were in that house and had to go without certain foods because people want to smoke.

45 packs

 

[TullyLovesDrew]

Helen stirred Kim up today. The same way she stirred the shower with Winston thing.

 

[Dystopia]

I hope they'll show the fireworks when Ashleigh and Helen and Kimberley get to talk to one another

I have a feeling that IF they show it, it'll be a disappointment. Ashleigh is not the bitch she'd like to portray herself to be. She hasn't got it... too young and consequently inexperienced. It requires time to mature to become a proper bitch, yes, and a lot of REAL fights, all of which lil Ashleigh lacks.

It works like this:

Toya poisons Ashleigh with silly ideas
BOTS picks it up and deliberates on the possibilities
Producers deem it the way to go
DR interaction between BB and Ashleigh
Ashleigh is clandestinely encouraged to become the Bitch
Ashleigh feels 'empowered' and important
Ashleigh starts acting
BOTS is happy and and the panel and audience tell each other how they foresaw it all
BB fuels the fire (and Ashleighs 'bitchineess' for a few more days - until
- it is deemed that it is enough (lest the lil girl gets damaged)
Emma, Rylan and or the producers will concoct another scenario

...and if they run out of ideas, there are always the British tabloids... in the words of Einstein: "Thank God for guns and tabloids."

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

Remember the twins in last year's BBUK? One was talking to the other (or maybe someone else) about the chicks in the house. Note, I said chicks because we live in a free, democratic country and I can't be bothered to figure out what the current politcally correct title is. The twin didn't have that luxury, he was aware of his dilemma so he covered all his bases: "...the girls erm women erm females...." no, he did not include "ladies" probably being aware that this would have caused an uproar within the lesbian community in the UK.
It's come that far. We don't even know how to refer to chicks anymore, no matter what we choose, we will be wrong.

...with the likes of Toya... a male in the house would probably have to ask her permission if he would be allowed to call her a 'lady'... if she said no then he would have to ask her just what he is allowed to call her... that is a very sad situation to be in for political correctness...

Similarely you Mr. Stickyfingers seem to be struggling to not leave the wrong impression with your fellow forumites and possibly the ASIO (who really knows?)

...haha!... yeah... I've been bitten before in other forum websites in regards to how you address/describe females in general... you would probably see within these forums that I normally say the word 'lady/ladies' or 'sweetness'... I worked out quite a long time ago that most ladies within forums readily accept that those words are my form of courtesy towards them... I've never had one lady ever take exception to them within these forums yet so far... let's face it Dystopia... they're hardly going to say... "I'm not a lady... don't call me that!"... are they?... hmmmm... (with the exception of TraLa of course... now she is one crazy lady!!!)... when I'm describing people within the house as bitches etc it is not a slight on women in general... it's used by me at that moment to put over my point... again... I've never had anyone take exception to those descriptions so far so I guess that I'm getting it right up until now...

Debating this season with friends, I have been referring to both, Pauline AND Toya as 'black bitch'. I know how politically incorrect this is and yet, technically it is correct. They are both black and they are both bitches... the mean kind y'know. In the U.S. this is a little easier because you can say: "That african american bitch..." it doesn't sound so bad, right? In the UK however... well, UK people tell me, what is the correct name? Is it... UK african or british african or english african... ?? Or should I simply say: "That black bitch whom I don't dislike because she's black (because that would be racist) but because she's a bitch who happens to be black... not that there is anything wrong with being black..." etc etc. RIDICULOUS!!!

...all up... I have about a dozen 'black' friends in my social circle... they have no problem whatsoever with 'black jokes' as long as you don't go to far into the insults... they have never complained once when I've said anything about them being black...I've asked quite a few of them whether any of them take offence when I've said it... not one of them has said 'yes' ... so I then asked why it is such a big deal within the media when it comes to racist political correctness... a couple of them said that it's just some 'do-gooders' that bring up all of the time that causes a lot of the ridiculous stories that get circulated within the media... one of them said to me that when you say not to call people something... because you've brought it up so loudly and made such a song and dance about it... the most natural thing that people do is say it even more... that's part of human nature they believe... so I guess that they figure... 'you all need to shut the fuck up' and people won't say anything at all... although I can't really comment on those statements as I am not black...

...one of them asked me whether I get insulted when they call me a 'pommy bastard'... I said... 'no'... they then said... so what's the difference then?... we're black bastards... you're a pommy bastard... so what?"...

...so there you go... that was their take on it... so I guess it's alright to a certain extent to say those things as long as there is no strong hatred behind those comments?????... let's face it... we're never going to really know are we?...

Toya: I very much agree with your take on Toya, I saw everything you are mentioning. But I also saw that her 'performances' were premeditaded and calculated (Helen is not like that at all). I also saw striking similarities between Toya and Shievonne Robinson of BBUK 2012 fame.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-Shievonne-Robinson-makes-suicide-remark.html

Both were lying low for the first two or three weeks sussing out their surroundings and HMs, wisely though. But when they opened their doors to be inspected, they exploded in a rage of fury... nobody knew what hit them, where it came from. The same talking over others, the same continuous interrupting of others, the same utter disregard of the opinions of others, both bullying, screeching birds of prey with deadly fangs. Fangs, yes, I vividly recall Shievonne's hand-gestures, like a bird picking the flesh off the prey's bones. ??? EXACTLY like Toya.

...you nailed it when you said that Toya's 'performances' were premeditated and calculated... they were for sure... and I totally agree with you on Helen not being like that at all... the trouble with Helen is that she genuinely talks from her heart first and doesn't allow her brain to catch up with her heart until it's all over being said... by then... (when she's had time to think for a few seconds)... it's too late with what she has said... she then has to stand by what she said so as not to have to 'save face' by apologising to the offended person in front of them all... a day or two later when she mulls it all around in her head she may eventually apologise...

Pauline and Toya have many things in common. They are both megalomaniacs, neither of them can see beyond their own greatness, neither of them showed any remorse or understanding during eviction or after (during BOTS) and both of them managed (during BOTS) to scare off even the most seasoned panellists.
I agree that they must have been raised in an environment where women have to be strong and begin to fight for their rights at an early age. It's sad though that the price they have to pay is complete loss of femininity.

...I have to agree with your summation of both Pauline and Toya here too... although they may lose quite a lot of their femininity whilst they are arguing in full mode I do think that sometimes Toya reverts straight back to be completely feminine once out of the limelight... Toya does crumble at times and shows her soft feminine side at some of the times... but Pauline to me never reverted back to being 'feminine'... she never showed remorse for some of the things that she did or said... to her she could never see that she was ever wrong... she had no soft feminine side to me at all... the trouble with Pauline was is that she had bigger testicles than any male within the house... that's why she was never 'feminine' to me...

...one more thing about Helen... unfortunately for her she allows the gutless group of males that hang around her for protection to egg her on when she says what they are too gutless to say... 'Stevie-no-balls' being the worst out of all of them... Helen would not be in half the mess that she is in now at the moment if it was not for them doing that to her...just my two cents... cheers.

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

I hope they'll show the fireworks when Ashleigh and Helen and Kimberley get to talk to one another

I have a feeling that IF they show it, it'll be a disappointment. Ashleigh is not the bitch she'd like to portray herself to be. She hasn't got it... too young and consequently inexperienced. It requires time to mature to become a proper bitch, yes, and a lot of REAL fights, all of which lil Ashleigh lacks.

It works like this:
Toya poisons Ashleigh with silly ideas
BOTS picks it up and deliberates on the possibilities
Producers deem it the way to go
DR interaction between BB and Ashleigh
Ashleigh is clandestinely encouraged to become the Bitch
Ashleigh feels 'empowered' and important
Ashleigh starts acting
BOTS is happy and and the panel and audience tell each other how they foresaw it all
BB fuels the fire (and Ashleighs 'bitchineess' for a few more days - until
- it is deemed that it is enough (lest the lil girl gets damaged)
Emma, Rylan and or the producers will concoct another scenario

...and if they run out of ideas, there are always the British tabloids... in the words of Einstein: "Thank God for guns and tabloids."

...hahahahaha!... are you sure that you're not one of the producers of the show Dystopia?... that would be soooooo on the button there!... lol!... cheers.