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Jo-bot said:
about the article, not sure what stoning she received from the lesbian community but i thought most people were pretty pissed at her behavior in the house. If she's talking about her circle/group, well of course they are pissed off, she hurt their friend, that comes with consequences..

I don't think she will win many friends with her comments, it's like she's drawing a line in the sand. She was one of them and now she calls them "they".

I really think she is attracted to the lifestyle someone offers, with drew she's now got a different kind of celebrity so she will completely move on from her old life and become someone new.
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Basically she has been ostracized. I doubt whether anything that she says will make it any worse.
 
BBfanjake said:
While I understand you POV, I kind of disagree with it...

..Based on experiences and convos I think that one common "right-wing" theme that the lesbian community struggles against is that being gay is in someone's nature...not something they stumbled into in sin...

A lot of lesbian community members would react to someone like Tully who was PORTRAYED as a lesbian (...admittedly said she was bisexual many times during the show..) but was generally portrayed as a LESBIAN...

The idea that a LESBIAN just switches over to liking a guy strengthens that "right-wing" position that a lesbian can be "turned straight" and hurts that community as a whole...

Obviously she would receive some backlash over that....

Obviously most of the posters here understand the nuances of her sexuality...but the GENERAL PUBLIC (aka 98% of the audience) doesn't...

...I've talked to several casual friends of the show and they are shocked when the LESBIAN suddenly falls for a GUY...
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The idea that lesbians are to be cured is from some right wing religious extremists mainly in the USA - and Australia?

Any way they should be ignored.
 
Jo-bot said:
i certainly understand what you are saying but that's why i think it won't endear tully to the LBGT community, like she is distancing herself from them now. Calling them "they" and having a go about them not being broad minded and accepting like "they" say they are instead having a bit of understanding about why.......i think she is cutting her connections and moving onto the next phase in her life by making those comments. She's not wanting to mend bridges but happy to leave it in her past, if that makes any sense.
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Mending bridges is not an option. It is not Tully that has distanced herself.
 
jessy_girl said:
I agree with this.

I have refrained from commenting much on this or in fact really much on Tully at all to be honest, but the truth is Tully has received a lot of backlash. Tully was relatively known in the Sydney social scene prior to Big Brother, but within the wider lesbian community in Sydney she was actually very well known, I would say a lot of people knew who she was. I think it was the producers doing and not Tully's to really drum in the whole lesbian angle, but the reality is Tully was involved a lot in the gay community. But these days she is not regarded so highly.

Most people watching the show would've realised the true state of Tully's sexuality, but the producers really ran full force with the lesbian angle, so when she hooked up with Drew some people were less concerned about the fact she had a partner and more the fact that it was a guy. Basically, they feel that it has perpetuated the myth that sexuality is a choice, and that someone can be turned straight. Honestly it doesn't bother me that much and I certainly can't speak for every single member of the gay community, but that seems to be the consensus amongst people I have spoken with.

But that's not really anything that isn't said in that article, so this is a pretty pointless point actually.
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I think that if Tully had started a relationship with a woman she would not have been treated as badly as she has been. A lot of the reaction has been because the community feels betrayed.
 
Tizzie said:
This was posted in the comments

Hope they die in a car crash
alexmougreg - about an hour ago

Tully's response:

[MENTION=29660]AlexM[/MENTION]ougreg Well that is absolutely lovely of you. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
tee_smyth - about an hour ago
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Good. Squash that bug!
 
Illabeth said:
Are you in the community? How would you know that? It took me a while to come to terms with the fact I was bisexual, and not gay or straight. Also, just because a bisexual ends up married to a man after years of dating women does not mean she is no longer bisexual, but straight, she is still bisexual in a heterosexual relationship. For many it is simply easier to identify as gay when in a homosexual relationship as even within the LGBT community biphobia is there, we get it from both sides so people hide who they are. Sometimes lesbians can be pretty cold towards bisexuals. And to top it off, sexuality is a fluid thing anyway, there is no easy way to define people, it's not all black and

Tully was very open about the fact she had dated guys in the past, and that she was open to dating guys in the future. Just because she didn't expressly sell out the word 'bisexual' doesn't mean she isn't. Many in the bisexual community do not like to use the label 'bisexual' and will identify another way, they are however, still attracted to both genders.




Thank-you! The Kinsey scale is there, not everyone is a one or a six, there are 4 other numbers in the middle. As much as I like Tully I think even inadvertently she has done both communities (lesbian and bisexual) a slight disservice in her relationship with Drew, or at least in the way that it started.
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I do not see how Tully has done a disservice to either community. I think she has done a service to the total community by high lighting the spectrum of sexual disposition.

Ask anybody how many sexes there are and the answer will always be two. But this is not enough. There are more.
 
Illabeth said:
But why should she have to expressly label it? She admitted very early on that in the future she could see herself with a guy? how is that not stating she is bi? Sexuality is not simple and she shouldn't need to define herself in such a black and white way when sexuality is not all black and white. The need to put a concrete label on her is really frustrating, many people don't like to be labelled and while she has said that she was questioning in that house. When I was confused about my sexuality I didn't want to label it either. As her relationship with Drew progressed we were shown more of her expressing it, but I think from what others and Drew have said she talked about her current and past relationships a lot from the off, we just weren't shown them.

I wouldn't deny that there are people that are heavily into the lesbian scene only to marry a guy, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they have 'turned straight'. It certainly may, sexuality is fluid and can change over time, but it doesn't mean all their past lesbian relationships were not real relationships full of love either, it simply means that they are bisexual. Just like when people come out as Gay or have a homosexual relationship later in life, yes some have been in the closet for years, but others may have simply just discovered another part of their sexual identity. The nature of human sexuality and identity means that concrete labels are not the way to go, some may like them, but others don't, especially when they are still exploring their sexuality.
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Exactly.
 
I promise I'm not just trying to find pics of Tim. He's just the only one I can find people uploading online at the moment. Maybe the others have gone for the night?

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Veronica2005 said:
Fuck Royality Heroism and the Streets
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Haha, thanks. I'm none the wiser though :), unless you meant Royalty? I thought it was another possible PR stuff up though, if he wants to create an image outside the house, he might get the wrong one and put potential sponsors off.
 
buck07 said:
Part 2 is Drew & Tully's effort and the conclusion of the challenge:

[video=youtube;AmLiDXgxGy4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmLiDXgxGy4[/video]
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Tully is quite good in this. Drew is not so good.

What a fantastically strange program.
 
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